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Diane Scramstad
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Posted - 03/06/2024 :  19:59:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had posted looking for Edvard Jensen thought to be born April 11 1871 in Kristiansund. I have found him and he is actually Edvard Olufsen born April 11 1870 Tingvoll. His baptism lists mom Gurianna Andersdatter from Furset and father Oluf Jonsen of Kristiansund. I found his confirmation and lists father as Oluf Johansen. I saw a document that said Oluf was born around 1840 and I can't find him anywhere, does anyone have any suggestions ?

Diane Scramstad

ToreL
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Posted - 03/06/2024 :  22:00:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edvard's's baptism records (#29 and #29) and confirmation record (#27) give very little information about the father. The parents were not married, and the father is just matros, ungkar (sailor, bachelor) Oluf Johnsen/Jonsen from Kristiansund. No age or other info given. Do you recall where you found Oluf's birth year of 1840?

Edited by - ToreL on 03/06/2024 22:40:04
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/06/2024 :  22:19:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is his baptism in Ancestry.com. Unfortunately nothing else that I can find on his father in a quick look.

Edvard Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name Edvard Olsen
Gender Male
Birth Date 11. apr 1870 (11 Apr 1870)
Baptism Date 26. jun 1870 (26 Jun 1870)
Baptism Place Ore I Tingvoll,More Og Romsdal,Norway
Father
Oluf Johnsen
Mother
Gurianna Andersdr

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3434248:60092?tid=&pid=&queryId=2e2f2078-1fd9-4ac3-bde9-992d45145e9c&_phsrc=IlZ1&_phstart=successSource

Edited by - AntonH on 03/06/2024 22:20:28
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Diane Scramstad
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Posted - 04/06/2024 :  02:16:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anton I believe I got Oluf birth from site histreg.no When you look at Edvard's baptism the name Jon Jonsen appears. I was wandering if he could have been Oluf's dad. I did find the death for Jon Jonsen June 28th 1874 age 66 years Tingvoll it also listed him from Kristiansund. Again I can't find anything.

Diane Scramstad
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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/06/2024 :  16:19:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, there are two Jonsens in the faddere of Edvard, Jon and Engebret. Jonsen is a common patronymic so they may or may not be related but good to keep all the names of faddere for any clue.

Probably the brothers Jonsen in the 1875 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052351006754

Edited by - jkmarler on 04/06/2024 16:24:10
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Diane Scramstad
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Posted - 04/06/2024 :  19:59:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the help and a new lead to follow. Maybe Oluf, John and Engebret are all brothers.

Diane Scramstad
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  02:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not sure that all the three Johnson's are brothers but they all seem to have the same martial habits.

Engebret with two children both out of wedlock. Tingvol

Guri Anne 1860 Nr 29

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000020079650

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050615010031

Karen Marie 1862 Nr 17

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000020080046

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050615010046





Edited by - AntonH on 05/06/2024 02:18:50
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Diane Scramstad
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  04:30:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anton I went and looked in Hedmark parish Tolga and found the births of Engebret and Jon. Different parents so maybe cousins, maybe they were just friends with Oluf Jonsen. Maybe the Jon Jonsen from Kristiansund who died June 9th 1874 Tingvoll is the actual link to Oluf. Thanks for the help.

Diane Scramstad
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  09:00:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH

I am not sure that all the three Johnson's are brothers but they all seem to have the same martial habits.

Engebret with two children both out of wedlock. Tingvol

Guri Anne 1860 Nr 29

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000020079650

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050615010031

Karen Marie 1862 Nr 17

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000020080046

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050615010046



It's him at #15 as well, last link above.
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  17:42:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Anton I went and looked in Hedmark parish Tolga and found the births of Engebret and Jon. Different parents so maybe cousins, maybe they were just friends with Oluf Jonsen. Maybe the Jon Jonsen from Kristiansund who died June 9th 1874 Tingvoll is the actual link to Oluf. Thanks for the help.


Diane, it would be a big help in these searches if you would post a link to what you have found. Especially the birth records of Engebret and Jon.
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Diane Scramstad
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  19:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anton I don't know how to post a link. I actually go to Parish and read records until I find what I'm looking for.
Engebret Born Feb 11th 1825 Parish Tolga Hedmark line 11

John August 19 1830 parish Tolga Hedmark line 22

I did find Oluf Jonsen age 41 departing Trondheim on April 9th 1879 aboard ship Dampskib Domino going to Red Wing, Minnesota. It said his residence was Ofredal which I think might be Vestland.

Diane Scramstad
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  22:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are looking at the parish registers using the Digitalarkivet, there is a line of icons across the top. If you hit the one that looks like a clipboard with an arrow sticking into, or a person with an arrow sticking in it, it will copy the identifying information from that particular page along with the actual web address to your computer's clipboard, which you can then paste into your response.
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  23:37:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if you have Ancestry.com you can look at this page.

Oluf Jonsen
in the Norway, Emigration Records, 1867-1960
Name Oluf Jonsen
Gender Mannlig (Male)
Emigration Age 41
Birth Date abt 1838
Last Known Residence Place Offerdal
Emigration Date 9. apr 1879 (9 Apr 1879)
Emigration Place Trondheim, Norge
Emigration Destination Red Wing, Minnesota
Emigration Ship Dampskib Domino

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/737161:61757?tid=&pid=&queryId=2aded54b-1217-4adb-8296-74bae1437886&_phsrc=jby1&_phstart=successSource
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2024 :  23:39:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Offerdal is in Sweden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offerdal
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/06/2024 :  00:02:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My way of referencing link in Norwegian parish records is to use the English language page. Top row right see either Norsk or English. Use English
In the row above References click on the links emoji;
In the section below References copy the Quick Link and post it here.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050615010046

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Edited by - AntonH on 06/06/2024 00:14:06
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Diane Scramstad
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Posted - 06/06/2024 :  00:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anton if he was in Sweden then I wouldn't think this Oluf is my guy. Baptism record did say from Kristiansund. I'm running out of ideas. At least we finally found Edvard. Thanks for all the help.

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