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Bodilgunn
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Posted - 29/07/2007 : 20:13:29
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quote: Originally posted by einarh
Hi Carla.
thanks a lot for putting things right as for the Ottersdaughters. It must have been a quite widespread practice for pioneer families in Bardu and Målselv in the 1800s to have some of their children spread on established farms in the county. Marit was in Sørreisa (and had a son named Ole Martin Johannessen there). Bardu Bygdebook vol II says (in the farm survey chapter) that Marit Ottersdatter had emigrated to America. Her sister Marie worked at Moholt in Bardu - not far from the Ottersen Holtet farm. She also settled in America. And I have spotted their younger sister Ingeborg at the Kollen farm a few kilometers north of Moholt in later years. Also Ingeborg had a son, he was named Ole Ingvald Johansen and as far as I can see, his father came from Aremark in Østfold, Southern Norway and was travelling as a "sukkerbrødbaker" (sweet bread baker). I have tried to trace him without success. Ingeborg and her son emigrated in 1900 when Ole Ingvald was 8 years old. I am trying to find him and his mother in Canada with help from Canadian genealogists in Alberta.
Hello Einar. Bardu Historielag is trying to contact you. Please contact Bodil Haugli - haugli@bluezone.no |
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Krag Anderson
New on board
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2008 : 17:06:10
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Marit Ottersdatter (f. 12 Nov 1837 in Tynset) is my great-great-great grandmother. She had a daughter Olea Mathisdatter (f. 6 Apr 1860 in Bardu) with Mathis Carlsen (f. 17 Aug 1836 in Tynset). They were never married. Olea was adopted by Mathis' mother Sigrid Jonsdatter Bonæs (f. 9 Aug 1813 in Tynset) and emigrated to Grantsburg, Burnett, Wisconsin, USA in 1864 with Ingebrigt Hågensen Haakstad (f. Sep 1825). In 1898 Marit Ottersdatter emigrated to the US. She came with Ingebrigt Haakstad after his return to the homeland after the death of his wife Sigrid. Mary Ottersen is found on the 1905 Wisconsin state census living with with her daughter and son-in-law John and Olea Torgersen. Although one of my grandfather's cousins found her death to be in 1919, I have found no such death record or gravesite for Marit, Sigrid, or Ingebrigt. I suspect they should be around Grantsburg. I've not had much luck looking for Marit d.e., Sirianna, or Ingeborg Ottersdatter. I have however been able to track some of Bersvend Andersen's descendants in Grand Prairie, Alberta, Canada. I've also found some of Kari Jonsdatter's descendents as they also settled in Grantsburg, Wisconsin.
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2009 : 11:12:42
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Hi Krag,
I hope you'll see this msg so that we can take up contact. In fact, I've been absent from this site for a long time, but happened to see your msc of 2008 right now.... Please reply, so I know you're there. Your info is very interesting.
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2009 : 10:40:51
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quote: Originally posted by Flapjaxsid
I was born and raised in Polk County, Minnesota and still have a sister living there. Any idea what part of Polk County they lived in. By the way, I had a wonderful trip to Valdres Valley, (Fagernes, etc.) last October. Many Polk County residents immigrated from that area.
Sid Thompson
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2009 : 10:47:20
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quote: Originally posted by Flapjaxsid
I was born and raised in Polk County, Minnesota and still have a sister living there. Any idea what part of Polk County they lived in. By the way, I had a wonderful trip to Valdres Valley, (Fagernes, etc.) last October. Many Polk County residents immigrated from that area.
Sid Thompson
Hi Sid!
I am still looking for Marit Ottersdatter, who probably went to America with her foster parents Ole Olsen Brandvold from Jevningen, Bardu. Marit was born in Tylldal, Tynset in 1833, parents Otter Otterson from Tylldal and Marit Eriksdatter, also from Tylldal. The parents settled with their small children in the pioneer farming fields in Bardu, Troms - in 1839. Possible date of emigration was, I think, shown in this blog earlier, but I will if needed come back to it. Marit likely settled in Polk. Could you find out from the Bones descendants in Polk what happened - and if Marit really settled there?
Best Einar Kr. Holtet
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2009 : 11:14:52
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quote: Originally posted by Brining
Hi Einar, I think the Bygdebook probably meant Kari's children. In the digitzed parish records for Bardu Otter Otterson is shown returning from Tranøy in 1867 so both he and Marit were there. Ole Johnson's confirmation record is in Bardu and it lists his mother as Marit Ottersd. Finsot and Johannes Kristian Jakobsen but doesn't indicate if they are living. I looked through the records for Tranøy but didn't find any for Marit leaving or death but I could have missed it since it isn't always easy to read the old handwriting Carla
Hi Carla, I'm back Could the Finsæter (Finseth) farm in Sørreisa (Tranø sokn?) be a clue to Marit Ottersdatter's whereabouts? Both Marit and her younger brother Otter seem to have lived at "Finsot" (Finsæter) and Marit had a child there (Ole Johnsen) - who probably is the same as gjeter and vedhugger Ole Johannesen at Holtet, Bardu in 1875. Marit suddenly "disappeared" from all lists.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/08/2009 : 02:49:46
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Is it possible that she did not end up in Polk County, Minnesota but rather in Wisconsin as noted above and shown below in the 1905 Wisconsin Census
Name: Maria Ottesen Census Date: 1 Jun 1905 Residence County: Burnett Residence State: Wisconsin Locality: Grantsburg Birth Location: Norway Marital Status: Widowed Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Race: White Relation: Mother-in-law
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 30/08/2009 : 18:25:02
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Thanks a lot. However I am sorry to say that Maria was not the Marit we are looking for. Maria was in fact her younger sister. Marit was born in Tylldal in 1833 and Maria in Tylldal in 1838. So the mystery remains unsolved so far, I'm afraid... Thank you anyhow. It's encouraging that you are with me....
Einar
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 30/08/2009 : 18:32:05
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Three of Marit's grandchildren seem to have settled in Canada in 1927. These were: Magda Otelie Bergljot Olsdatter Storjord, f. 1899, emigrated to Canada. Knut Ingvar Olsen Storjord, f. 1902, Emigrated to Canada 1927 and married in Canada. Olea Bergitta Olsdatter Storjord f. 1906, married Olav Kildal f. 1903, emigrated to Canada 1927.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/08/2009 : 20:29:07
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Hi,
There are 6 Marits with birthyears of 1833 in www.dalbydata.com One for sure was in Polk county, Minnesota a Marit Moen. You might want to look...
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 31/08/2009 : 10:26:03
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quote: Originally posted by Brining
Hi Einar I found Kari Jonsdatter in the 1865 census living on the Nygaard farm but she is a widower Click Here I then found that she had married Ole Olson Brandvold in 1866, must have been shortly before they left for America. It doesn't seem likely that they were Marit's foster parents unless it was one of them with their privious husband/wife Carla
Hi Carla!
You're right! Marit was NOT the foster daughter of Kari Jonsdatter and Ole Olsen Brandvold. Marit's younger sister Marie, was it! And Marie emigrated to Grantsburg, Wi. to settle there with her daughter Olea Mathisdatter who had already emigrated with Kari and Ole. Both Marie and her daughter are buried in Gransburg. As for Marit - - I don't know what became of her. Her son, though (Ole Martin Johannesen) married Birgitta Johansdatter. Three of Ole Martin's children emigrated to Canada around 1927. I am searching for them, probably in Alberta and the Grande Prairie area.
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