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bev
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Australia
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 Posted - 01/01/2004 : 13:10:54
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I am trying to locate a boat called Rosenius that went from Norway to London in the late 1800's. My greatgran father sailed on this boat and I am trying to establish the dates that he left
Norway to coincide with when he left London to come to Australia. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2004 : 16:15:13
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Hi Have you tried looking for him in the Digitalarkivet emigrant registers?Click Here I did a brief search and didn't find the Rosenius but there are lots of listings without ships names so he could be there.
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 02/01/2004 : 16:30:32
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| I am pretty sure this was not an emigrant ship if it left from Oslo. It was probably a merchant ship, if not I think we would have had it in the emigrant ship database. Was your great-grandfather a sailor? |
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bev
New on board
Australia
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Posted - 05/01/2004 : 09:13:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Borge
I am pretty sure this was not an emigrant ship if it left from Oslo. It was probably a merchant ship, if not I think we would have had it in the emigrant ship database. Was your great-grandfather a sailor?
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bev
New on board
Australia
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Posted - 05/01/2004 : 09:16:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Borge
I am pretty sure this was not an emigrant ship if it left from Oslo. It was probably a merchant ship, if not I think we would have had it in the emigrant ship database. Was your great-grandfather a sailor?
We have been told he was danish and went to England on a
boat named Rosenius - he was in the merchant navy in Australia so maybe it was a merchant ship - can you help with how to find out where this ship travelled ??? Many thanks |
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Maryann Hurt
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 14/06/2015 : 11:16:49
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| Hi my great-grandfather's middle name was Roseneus and all of his sons also had Roseneus for a middle name. He was a sailor who came to Australia and settled in Queensland. His Naturalisation Certificate says he was Danish. Are we related? Did you find out anything about the ship? |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/06/2015 : 15:44:38
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I doubt you are related.
The owner of this topic is looking for info about the Norwegian merchant ship Rosenius.
I Guess Charles Roseneus Thompson is your ancestror
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2015 : 18:21:20
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WOW, very popular guy. There are a lot of Family Trees on Ancestry.com under his name I did look at all all of them but here is one example, they all seem to give his birth date as 1858. Most of them seem to not give his parents. Although one lsits them as Charles Thompson and Mary Peterssen. Wife is listed as from Denmark as well and her parents are listed and look a little more findable.
Charles Rosenaus Thompson
Birth 1858 in Elsinore, Denmark (actually Helsingĝr in Danish)
Death 20 Dec 1935 in Brisbane, , Queensland, Australia
While Charles is a know name in the Helsingor, Frederiksborg, Denmark area Thompson is not, could be a name derived from some close relative such as Thommesen, a quick look did not turn up any candidates on Ancstry in the data base for
Denmark, Select Baptisms, 1618-1923 |
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
371 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2015 : 23:07:20
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Hi
There is a ship named "Rosenius" built 1880 in Arendal.
It had several owners and "residences": Arendal 1880-1891, Flekkefjord 1891-1901 and Kristiansand 1901-1903.
There is also a ship named "Carl Rosenius" built 1874 in Stavanger. It's "residence" was Bergen 1874-1887, Haugesund 1887-1896, Farsund 1896-1899.
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Maryann Hurt
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 14/06/2015 : 23:09:04
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Thanks to all for the responses.
Yes this is my great-grandfather. I think Bev's post sounds like a variation of the story in our family, that the middle name Roseneus was the name of the ship our great-grandfather migrated on - but I've been unable to find any info for a ship with that name. My mother said her father-in-law pronounced his middle name Rosinius.
I've found his wife's and her parents' immigration records into Australia.
Thanks for your tips, I'll use them to keep searching.
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vivi
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Norway
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Maryann Hurt
Starting member
Australia
6 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2015 : 23:47:04
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Hi
Thank you Vivi |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2015 : 23:48:18
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Do you think this is a record for your great-grandfather. The original manifest lists him as A.B. which usually means able-bodied seaman. It also lists his birth year as 1853 which is what Kċre found on-line but contradicts the many trees on Ancestry that give 1858 as a birth year.
Charles Thompson in the New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Charles Thompson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Age: 35
Port of Departure: London
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 11 Sep 1888
Vessel Name: Brilliant
Origin Location: Denmark |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/06/2015 : 00:04:50
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Crew list of Rosenius April 12.1900 census, the ship was in Brunswick USA.
The crew cosited of 8 men; 4 Norwegians, 3 from Finland and a Swede from Gotenburg link
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Maryann Hurt
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 15/06/2015 : 00:52:35
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Hi lyndal40.
I have got that record for the Brilliant, thanks, and I did think that it was him. He married in Queensland in 1890 so the arrival of the Brilliant in 1888 fits in with that. The Brisbane City Council website says he was 80 when he was buried in 1935, which makes him born 1855.
His Naturalisation Certificate which says he said he was 32 in January 1891, so born in 1858/9, and it is definitely his certificate as it's in one of his son's WWII RAAF record.
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Maryann Hurt
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 15/06/2015 : 02:14:17
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| Petersen was Annie's maiden name. She married twice, her first husband's name was Erasmus Kenwrick/Kenwick. Annie as a young widow of about 25 with four children then married my great-grandfather, Charles Thompson, and had nine more children. Some of her children/descendants of that marriage continue to use Kenwrick/Kenwick as her last name in family trees I've seen online. |
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