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stef
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 Posted - 19/08/2004 : 03:16:24
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in some point I'm agree with you, but what is really clear and sure in genealogy.
it say : perish at sea : it depend what signification we give to the words.
and it depend who's the captain that wrote the note.
Maybe you are right but the only thing i can do is to check in other place,but verify
that story the best i can.
your thinking is a good way to make me realise not to put all my efforts in the same target.
tank you for your help you and every body on that forum stef |
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askeroi
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Norway
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Posted - 19/08/2004 : 13:58:54
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| Perish is a "translation". Norwegian original (according to post in other debate) says dead. |
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stef
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 18/09/2004 : 17:55:24
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Tank you Askeroi for your good info.
is there register to look for men perish at sea
and if not where could I find info on my 3 men who
embarqued on a boat 115 years ago.
Should I absolutly go in norway to find out info ? |
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askeroi
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Norway
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Posted - 18/09/2004 : 23:29:11
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I'm pretty shure there is no such register. At least I've never heard of it.
And three men jumping a ship in a US harbour in those days was so common that no-one outside the family would even raise their eyebrow of the story.
I'm sorry, but I do not believe there is an easy way to get info about Hendry following that line. You must somehow find out where in Norway he came from.
And since the two other guys were from Vestfold it's a good place to start. I can tell he's not born in Nøtterøy, as these church books are online. But he may have lived there later. There is an expert on Nøtterøy you could ask, John Strøm, at bjo-ksal@online.no He might be able to help you.
If he doesn't know, my next advice is to start a debate at Digitalarkivet (your english is no problem) by clicking "Enter new topic" here
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebDebatt.exe?slag=listtema&debatt=brukar&spraak=e
Remember to give all the facts you have (age, cencuses etc) - and don't confuse them with Tune speculations. There are lots of willing and helping hands there.
If that doesn't work out either my last advice is to look through every parish in Vestfold (starting by the sea) at your local LDS centre. Sorry. |
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stef
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2004 : 00:07:02
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Hi! Askeroi
This morning i did receive a letter from Statsarkivet and it contain seamen rolls about Gunder Olsen . The problem is that I can't understand every thing on that paper.
Could you give mw a little help?
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askeroi
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Norway
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Posted - 01/10/2004 : 07:44:38
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Of course I'll do my best. And if that isn't good enough I'm sure we'll fix it at Digitalarkivet.
This is so exiting... |
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stef
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 00:38:12
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Today is a big day!
I reveived this morning,a seamens roll for Henrick Robertsen / Hansen from Tune,Norway,son of Robert Anton Hansen and Maren Julie Johansdatter.
I had good reason to believe that this man from Tune,Henrick Hansen / Robertsen, was my ancestor who died in Canada in 1915.
This man from Tune has lot of similitude with my ancestor who signed Hendry Robertsen when he married a french Canadien woman.
The man from Tune had been declared as perish at sea from his relatives in Norway,and my ancestor said he jump out of a boat to swim and reached the land.
The Tune man was borned in 1868,a date that fit exactly.
When I did receive a seamen roll this morning that said Henrick Robertsen from Tune ,ESCAPED
in 24 nov.1890 in Canada,I knew it was the right man !
The man from Tune embarqued himself on a boat called MAGDALENE from Fredrickstad going in France.
I 've verified on a list of boat that came in my town in sept. 1890,and he was HERE !!!
tHE 22 NOV. 1890,The Magdalene was in Chicoutimi with captain S.Johnsen with a crew of 8 men
and was going to Lisbon. WOW WOW WOOOOOO !
Lots thing have to be verify but I'm glad that today I found the truth in 90% sure.
After five years seeking,it's a powerfull feeling !!!
I will be back soon!
Stef
in CANADA
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askeroi
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Norway
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 08:24:27
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I'm thrilled on your behalf !!! |
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stef
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askeroi
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Norway
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Posted - 14/10/2004 : 22:18:42
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I can't imagine there was a punishment at the time this happened. Running away could give you a reputation to be unrelyable, and make it harder to get a job if there's was enough sailors to chose from. A runaway wasn't that rare - and many a sailor became too drunk to get back on the ship in time for departure, for instanse. (I didn't say this was the case with your Henrik, but it wasn't that unusual.
I don't remember the actual wording in your cases, but some times there wasn't even a real runaway - they just forgot or did not have the time to registar his departure properly. It could be on a holiday, for instance. Or the registration got lost in the mail. Or somebody put it on another man's card in Norway. So this wasn't a big deal. It happened every now and then even in the early 1970s when I worked in the norwegian registar office.... |
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