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medic12965
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Posted - 14/10/2004 : 17:14:58
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Hi, I am searching for lineage on my great grandparents:
Olav Aslakson b. 1875 in Kviteseid. Lived on the Mosli farm in 1900. Son of my gg- grandfather Aslak Olsen b. 1825 in Vinje
Guro Jorgensdatter born in Mo, 1891 lived on Utigard in 1900. I know she had sisters Sigrid, Anne, Haege, and Signe. I believe her mother to be Margit Johnsdatter b. 1859 in Vinje. I cannot figure out who Guro's father is or locate any lineage further back than this.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as would any info on the Mosli and Utigar farms. Thanks |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/10/2004 : 19:25:54
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Providing links to the information you have found would be helpful and save researchers much time. For example, what counties/flykes are they in? |
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medic12965
Starting member
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Posted - 15/10/2004 : 00:41:05
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This info. came from the 1900 census from the Norwegian Historical Data Centre, University of Tromso. Telemark is the county which all of the municipalities are in. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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askeroi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2004 : 23:24:12
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I'm sorry to say the bygdebooks for Vinje does NOT mention anything about this couple - there's no help to get there. Strangely enough I can't find them on any of the Utigards in the Mo bygdebook, either. Could Utigard be in Kviteseid...?
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Edited by - askeroi on 20/10/2004 06:30:27 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 15/10/2004 : 23:35:09
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The 1900 Norwegian census had that had that as the farm name in Mo, Telemark... perhaps it was just the name of a plass or subfarm? I've used bygdeboks that really only listed land OWNERS (darn) -- perhaps the parish records might be the only resort? |
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askeroi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 16/10/2004 : 22:51:26
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The bygdebook from Mo is very good and contains "everybody". But I can only find two Utigards in the book, one under Loftsgarden and one under Vistad. And the couple from this debate is not metioned on either of them as far as I can see. But I've been blind before, so maybe...?
But in the closing chapter "dead people from the church books that not have been placed in the text" I find:
Aslak Olsson, Midbø i(n) Vinje (1825-1910), føderådsmann
but no sign of Guro or Olav as far as I can see. |
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medic12965
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Posted - 17/10/2004 : 04:34:37
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Thanks to everyone who responded faster than I expected. I can tell you alittle more from what I have found through the ellis island database and canadian naturalization records as well as my great aunt.
Supposedly Olav Aslakson at birth was Olav Aslakson Midtbo. I assume Midtbo is the farm but family memorabilia also says "born 1875 Sollid ? Hauge". I am quickly getting confused. Olavs second trip to Canada via the Bergensford lists him as Ole Mosley. His arrival was on February 14, 1916. I am not sure of the date when he first came over.
He and my g- grandma Guro Jorgensdatter did not actually get married until they were both in Canada but their first daughter Gudrun was born in Mo, out of wedlock. When her and Guro landed at Ellis Island on June 12, 1917, Gudrun was 11 mos. old. On the manifest as homeland contact it lists: Margit (Johnsdatter) Utigard Mo pr. Skien, Norway. Does Skien help clarify where Utigard is?
Again, I appreciate the help and look forward to any info. which may be out there.
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askeroi
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Norway
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Posted - 17/10/2004 : 10:07:37
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Skien is to no help, unfortunately. It's just the nearest town, the nearest bigger place. The Vinje bygdebook is old and doesn't mention everybody. These people were obviously poor, owned no land and moved to wherever they could make a living. Probably they came "from nowhere" to Vinje, stayed a while on Midbø (and maybe short time on other farms), and moved on to Mo parrish. Here they (or at least the father) finally got the chance to buy a farm. The son went off to America and the father sold the farm to someone else on the condition they took care of him on his older days (he became a føderaardsmann) - and his death as such is the only way he is mentioned in the Mo bygdebook (which is modern and very good). The family left no traces neither in Vinje or Mo and wasn't very interesting to either bygdebook author.
To get any more info on this people I'm afraid you'll have to go to the original church books from both parrishes. Hopefully you'll there get an idea of where the father actually came from (to Vinje) and you'll be lucky and find his anchestors there...
At the moment I can't be of any more help, unfortunately - and I agree this wasn't much. There isn't anything else you know about the father's family - or Guro's - that you've forgot to mention to make us get onto the right track? |
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mamat
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Posted - 20/10/2004 : 04:26:04
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Hi, I have some of those names in my husband's ancestry.... however, they were mostly from the Evje, Vest Adger area....so, perhaps not connected...
an "Aslak", "Aslakson", "Jorgendatter", "Johnsdatter".......
Nancy T |
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mamat
Starting member
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Posted - 20/10/2004 : 05:37:56
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OOOOPSIE!!!! my error... slip of the fingers.... I should have said.... AUST ADGER... not VEST ADGER!!!
the rest is ok....
sorry 'bout that!
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askeroi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 20/10/2004 : 06:47:33
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Nancy:
These names were extremely common. It's like assuming John in Texas and John in New Mexico is related. Or two Smiths. I can assure you you won't find anything nesting from this angle. Guaranteed.
Start a new debate asking for the people you're looking for.
Sometime you actually find that the two Johns (or Smiths or Aslaks) really are related, but chances are very close to nill... |
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