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Kåarto
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 Posted - 25/04/2013 : 12:28:45
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Eric Olsen Klevmoen born in Øyer on Kleve (Klevemoen) Nov 10. 1832. Parents;Ole Olsen and Anne Eriksdatter.
Olia/Olea Olsdatter was born in Øyer ca 1824, parents; was Ole Olsen and ?
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/04/2013 12:30:26 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 13:15:52
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Olea was born on farm Glømmen Jan. 15. 1824. Parents Ole and Anne Glømmen.
Left page 2. chapter almost half down;
Item Ole and Anne Glømmens "født" born 15d Jan: Olea, click here
Ole Olsen Gløme (Glømmen) married Anne Erichsdatter Bjerke Nov. 8. 1821, top left page, see here
Olea Olsdatter born on Glømmen who married Ole Pedersen in Nærøy 1855 was Erik Olsen Klevmoens sister.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/04/2013 21:39:19 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 16:13:12
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I am often impressed by the good communication between the emigrants and their homeland.
Olea and Ole Pedersen traveled through Trondheim and the Klevmoen people ca 10 years later traveled through Oslo and met in America.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/04/2013 16:17:32 |
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petertorgerson
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 18:32:44
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Maarto--you present day Norwegians are amazing and resourceful like the Norwegians of olden days. You asked if Ole and Lina had a daughter Marie, and info I already had says they had a daughter Mary, who died on an unknown date. Could it be that Marie is pronounced like our present day name of Mary. In your post of 4/25 at 13:15:12 the Ole Glome/Anne Eriksdatter marriage info brought me to a 1821 baptism page?
In your post of 4/25 at 8:48:26 the Peder Olsen Stejen/Anne Jonsdatter marriage on 6/6/1827 I couldn't find #1, the page started with #4. Also, was Ole Pedersen's father named Peder Olsen Vastrand or Peder Olsen Stejen? Is his mother named Anne Jonsdatter Brandvold? I would like to thank you again for all your help and I am very thankful for your willingness and ability to continue assisting me in these searches.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 20:08:20
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Ole Olsen Gløme (Glømmen) married Anne Erichsdatter Bjerke Nov. 8. 1821, top left page, see here
Kåre
You are welcome.
This was a hard nut to crack.
When Jackie found the 1850 migration from Tynset the rest was rather "easy".
You are right, its something wrong with the link, it leds you to a wrong page.
The wedding record is on top left on page 512.
The date 30 Septb. is when they were engaged
Now it seems to be in order, wonder why?
Probably my fault.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/04/2013 21:38:54 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 20:20:55
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Originally posted by petertorgerson
In your post of 4/25 at 8:48:26 the Peder Olsen Stejen/Anne Jonsdatter marriage on 6/6/1827 I couldn't find #1, the page started with #4. Also, was Ole Pedersen's father named Peder Olsen Vastrand or Peder Olsen Stejen? Is his mother named Anne Jonsdatter Brandvold? I would like to thank you again for all your help and I am very thankful for your willingness and ability to continue assisting me in these searches.
You are right.
Ole Pedersen who fall in the civil war, the wedding record for his parents is on the right page couple nr 3 from bottom.
#1 "Ungkarl" bachelor Peder Olsen Stejen and "pigen" Maid Anne Jonsdatter Brandvold on June 6. 1827 in Alvdal in Tynset.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/04/2013 20:31:47 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 21:37:34
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Originally posted by petertorgerson
Also, was Ole Pedersen's father named Peder Olsen Vastrand or Peder Olsen Stejen?
They are both the same man. Vastrand or Stejen the "last" name in the string is called a "farm name." Essentially an address which changes each time the person moves from farm to farm.
The marriage record for Ole Pederson and Olia Olsdatter has lots of clues--says that he came from Tønset and she came from Øier and there was a small note "att 29 June 1850" by it. Att = attest which means there was likely to be an in- or out- migrating record. That's why I was looking in those records.
But the real finding that broke it all open was Kåre's post about finding an Anne Olsdatter b 14 Oct 1855! |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/04/2013 : 21:48:48
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Originally posted by petertorgerson
Maarto--you present day Norwegians are amazing and resourceful like the Norwegians of olden days. You asked if Ole and Lina had a daughter Marie, and info I already had says they had a daughter Mary, who died on an unknown date. Could it be that Marie is pronounced like our present day name of Mary.
Marie was born on Hansvik in Nærøy April 14. bap. Sept. 26. 1858 &79
You are right, the English contra the Norwegian alphabet is pronounced quite different, with the loudspeaker you can listen to it here
Marie/Maria is Mary in English
Jomfru Maria in Norwegian
Virgin Mary in English
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Edited by - Kåarto on 25/04/2013 23:17:29 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/04/2013 : 00:07:14
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Have you heard of this?
Leaving Nærøy, recorded Mai. 20. for America.
"Ægtefolkene" Married couple Peder Olsen Hansvik 65 and wife Anne Jonsdatter 60. with a son Simon 26 (Simon Pedersen born in Alvdal Feb. 13. 1834) and a daughters son Peter Oluf Olsen 4 1/2 born Oct. 13. 1855 in Værøy out of wedloc to maid Marit Pedersdatter Hansvik #100 and bachelor Ingebrigt Olsen.
Marits em. is recorded April 26. 1859 with her brother Ole Pedersen and his family above.
The em. record is on right page #7 on Mai 20
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/04/2013 : 15:30:19
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I wanted to investigate what happened to John Pedersen Hansvik born in Alvdal in Tynest April 24. 1832 who came with his parents to Værøy on march 3. 1849.
He died on Hansvik August 5. buried August 11. 1855 #36
Here is Anne Erichsdatter (Glømmen) born on Bjerke age 6 in 1801.
Parents; Erich Johansen, cottager with land, and Marthe Larsdatter. Anne also had a brother Johanes age 2, link
If you want to get further back just let us know.
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petertorgerson
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Posted - 27/04/2013 : 14:26:37
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| Kaarto--thanks for all you have done so far! Do you have access to any legal records or criminal records? There is an extremely serious rumor that one of my ancestors had to go to America as a result of charges in Norway. |
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petertorgerson
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Posted - 27/04/2013 : 14:49:09
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| Kaarto--Your post of 4/26 at 00:07:14--I have no knowledge of Peder Olsen Hansvik and other family members coming to America. Could it be that they never actually left Norway? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/04/2013 : 19:41:38
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You are welcome.
I believe they emigrated.
Ole Pedersen who fall in the civil war;
His sister Marit em with him.
Marits son Peter Oluf em. with her parents Peder Olsen Hansvik and Anne Jonsdatter born Brandvold.
Simon Pedersen, Ole and Marits brother em. with the parents.
Perhaps some in this forum can find out where they settled down.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/04/2013 19:57:05 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/04/2013 : 19:51:53
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There was a Simon Pedersen from Hedmarken (The Simon we ar looking for was born in Alvdal, Hedmarken) worked at Fort Sully, nr 19 less that one inch from bottom here
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petertorgerson
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Posted - 29/04/2013 : 18:23:02
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| Kaarto--Now that we have established the relationship of Eric Olsen Klevmoen and Olea Olsdatter as brother and sister, I am trying to verify the relationship of Eric to a person on my father's side of our family whose name was Johannes Olsen Klevmoen, who went by the name of Johann (John) O. Kleven in America. He was born in Norway around 1815-1819. In the U.S. 1900 census he said he was born in March,1819 and came to America in 1875. Under Oyer-Trettin records for 1784-1824 I found a possible birth record that appears to say he was born on March 7,1819 but I can't make out his parent's names. From info I already have it appears he might be a brother of Eric, however I cannot yet verify this. Some family info I have seems to indicate that Eric, Olea, and Johannes are siblings. |
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