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lillebergtl
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  02:56:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am searching for some information regarding two sets of ancestors from Norway.
HEGG: My great grandmother Inga was born on a ship to Buffalo, NY from Norway on Dec 21, 1882. Her mother (unknown) died on the ship during childbirth. Her father was Louis Torgerson Hegg born 6/17/1858 in Ullensaker, Akershus, Norway. Louis also had a brother Ole who adopted Inga once in the US. I would like to know the name of Louis's wife and possilby a marriage record and ship record so I know what ship she died on.
Also, I am looking for immigration, birth, and death information for a Halvor H. Hagelie, born in Hjelmeland, Norway and his wife Liva, born in Hatedervedt, Stavanger, Norway. His first known son, Christ, was born in 1847 in Ossian, IA, which mean immigration was prior to that year.

Brining
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Posted - 04/08/2005 :  12:14:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
East Immanuel Cemetery
Traill County, North Dakota
Hagali, Christopher, b. 1857, d. 1925, [AB]
Hagali, Halvor, fodt 22 Dec 1829, dode 9 Aug 1907, s/w Liva, [AB]
Hagali, Liva, fodt 9 Jan 1823, dode 10 Oct 1894, Hustru of (Wife of) Halvor Hagali, [AB]
Click Here
The 1900 census indicates that Halvor was born Dec 1818 and immigrated in 1854
Christopher is listed in Trail County Index to Pioneers click here along with a Sever who could be his brother.
Hagelie, Christopher Asheim, Marthe Mr. b 1857 IA; Married 1880
I found the family in the 1860 Fayette county Iowa census
Holver age 35, wife Le?? age 36 Sons Holver 7, Sever 5,Christopher 4, Lo?? age 1
In 1870 Halver is 50, Liva 47, the son Holver is not listed and additional children are Anne 9, John 7.
In the 1880 census he is listed as Halvor Haylie age 60
I would guess that the cemetery transcription has the wrong year for Halver's birth. Maybe it was 1819??
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kaare n
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Norway
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Posted - 04/08/2005 :  16:02:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have found reg.fore one Ole from Ullensaker maybe Louis brother, not sure
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=13080&merk=13080#ovre

And if we serch for Toegersen and the date you have on IGI
we get one Olavus

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

I can not find any Hegg as farm name in Norway, but if I get to the census 1865 in Ullensaker I have found this and the farm name is Haga, maybe.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0235&kenr=001&bnr=0016&lnr=00


I have also found one Louis reg but this is a later reg. send it anyway

As you se it is a Louis K. Haga
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

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kaare n
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Norway
114 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2005 :  16:09:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry aboy that here is maybe something you understand.
Fron IGI

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
Norway
Search Results | Download | Pedigree

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OLAVUS TORGERSEN
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 17 JUN 1858

Christening: 16 JAN 1859 Ullensaker, Akershus, Norway

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: TORGER ANDERSEN Family
Mother: ANNE MARGRETHE GUNDERSDR

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kaare n
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Norway
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Posted - 04/08/2005 :  16:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More bad job, here is the link to the Louis i found
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=127031&merk=127031#ovre
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Brining
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Posted - 04/08/2005 :  16:54:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have found a possiblity in the 1865 census but you should know that 1st names were often changed when emigrants came to America.
On the Haga farm (could have been changed to Hegg in America) in the 1865 census Click Here There is a Gustav Torgersen about the correct age with a brother Olaus Torgersen
In the LDS IGI Olaus has a birthdate of 17 JUN 1858 !!! Click Here
Gustav's birthdate is May 4 1857 Click Here
I found Ole Hegg in the 1900 census and he was born Feb 1849.
At first I thought that Gustav was Louis but it looks like Olaus is.
When did Louis die? There is also a death record on the LDS which lists death date for Olaus as 1920.
There is one Olaus Torgerson in the emigrants from Kristiana who might fit but he is not listed as married. He appears to be traveling with a Martin Torgerson Click Here
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lillebergtl
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Posted - 05/08/2005 :  00:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the information! I grew up in Traill County, ND, and all of my ancestors are from that area. I had just never been over to that cemetery and checked out the names. Also thanks for the leads on the possible ship that may have carried my great great grandfather here. I've concluded that he was Olaus "Louis" Hegg (Andersen, Haga, etc!) I hope I am able to eventually find out his 1st wife's name (he married Martha Duckstad here in the US) and birth dates. His daughter, Inga, was never accepted as a true Hegg to the Ole Hegg family since she was both adopted and her uncle was only half-brothers to her dad, so little was told to her about where she came from. Thanks again!
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NARVE
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Norway
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Posted - 08/07/2007 :  17:50:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can tell you about Halvor Halvorson Hagali, from Hjelmeland. Please email me

bjarne.jormeland@chello.no


Bjarne.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 08/07/2007 :  20:07:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Ullensaker, Akerhaus parish records are available online:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=2&idx_kilde=Alle&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js=j

You should be able to find all your confirming documentation here as well as search for a marriage record unless the bride was from another parish.

Could not find an Olaus living in 1882, but here is an Olaus Thorgesen leaving in 1881 with two other people, one from Houg.

Here is Olaus’ parents and brother in the 1875 census:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f70235&gardpostnr=23&personpostnr=188&merk=188#ovre

I am always suspicious of the died on voyage/born on voyage stories, the passenger list would confirm whether this was true.
Buffalo is on the Great Lakes, the ship would not have gone there, rather a series of voyages to North America, Norway to Hull, Glascow/Liverpool to various ports in America and Canada and then a train or Great Lakes boat. They probably went to Halifax. I recommend you look at the list of arrivals and departures on this site, in the winter ships went to Halifax, not Quebec. I could not find them in the Ancestry.com passenger list databases.

I would read too much into the fact that the people who adopted her did not share information about her past life or that did not accept her. That is the way it was in those days, people were struggling in a new world, new language, people died, children died, it was a hard life and people did not talk about sad things, they just made do and got on with it.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 09/07/2007 :  19:33:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the Halifax passenger list microfilms, index and lists, that you can rent from a local Family History Center:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=415156&subject_disp=Nova+Scotia%2C+Halifax%2C+Halifax+%2D+Emigration+and+immigration&columns=*,0,0

With the microfilm index, it will not be hard to find out if they came through Halifax.

In the 1900 census, Enga O. Hegg is living with Ole Hegg & his family in Americus, Grand Forks, ND, adopted daughter, born June 1882, New York.

In the 1900 census, Louis Hegg is living in Americus, Grand Forks, ND with his wife Martha, married 10 years, no children.

In the 1910 census she is married to Marcus Lilleberg, married two years, born North Dakota, living in Ervin, Trail, ND. In the 1920 & 1930 census she is still in Ervin, born New York.

The North Dakota Death Index is available online, Inga & Marcus Lilleberg are both listed there, it may list the name of her natural mother:

https://secure.apps.state.nd.us/doh/certificates/deathCertSearch.htm

Edited by - Jo Anne Sadler on 09/07/2007 19:35:04
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