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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 22/03/2006 :  10:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage: 07 DEC 1877, Jevnaker, Oppland, Norway:
Anders Hansen, his father: HANS ANDERSEN
Else Larsdatter, her father: LARS ANDERSEN Link

Same records at Digitalarkivet, Married in Jevnaker 1877 - 1890:
Anders Hansen (29), residence "Lyngstad in Gran", born "Ensrud in Gran" on 07-DEC-1848
bride girl Else Larsdatter, residence Kj鷨ven, born Korsrudbakken on 11-sep-1855 Link

Anders Hansen, born 07 DEC 1848, christening: 25 DEC 1848, Gran, Oppland, Norway
Parents: HANS ANDERSEN ENSRUD & JOHANNE PEDERSDATTER Link1 Link2

Else Larsdatter, christening: 23 SEP 1855, Jevnaker, Oppland, Norway
Parents: LARS ANDERSEN & INGEBOR HANSDATTER Link

So this Johanne in previous postings is Peter A. Lyngstad's Paternal grandmother! But is she this Mrs. Lyngstad you're looking for?

Anna Elise Lyngstad (18) from Gran, emigrating to Minnesota on a prepaid ticket on 24-AUG-1906. Ticket paid by brother Peter A. Lyngstad?
Anna Elise is born on 30-sep-1887.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 22/03/2006 10:59:20
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2006 :  13:13:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With regards to Mrs Anne Hilden, what are you looking for there?

This looks to be Anne Fredriksen (Hilden) in the US 1880-census: Digitalarkivet Familysearch

There are some Hildens in her neighborhood (of Tunsburg, Chippewa, Minnesota), even one living in the same household. Maybe this widow G. Dorthea HILDEN is her future mother-in-law?

A lot of Hildens are listed on the Hadeland Lag Member List 1910 - 1989 Hadelandlag.org
Hadeland is the name of the bigger area Gran is located in.

Jan Peter




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TLarson
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USA
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Posted - 22/03/2006 :  16:24:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello
As far as information on Mrs. Anne Hilden I am wondering when she was born and when she died. Also I would like to find out the names of her nine children. As her obituary says she had nine children. Also I'm wondering if it can be found what date she was married on and where.
-Tim Larson
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 22/03/2006 :  17:04:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anne's birthdate + year is given in two previous postings here. From the christening records in Gran, the year = 1859, you had 1860.

When it comes to the names of her children, marriage year, death year etc, I believe you should be able to continue yourself. She emigrated as a child, so all this info should be in the US.
It looks like she went to Tunsburg, Chippewa county, Minnesota, so you should start by looking there.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 22/03/2006 17:06:49
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TLarson
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Posted - 31/03/2006 :  01:33:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again,
I just got the death certificate for my great-grandmother, Martha Julseth. And for here parents names it has Peder Ensrud and Marie Melaas. But the information that was found for me said that Martha's mother's name was Karen .
So not sure if it's wrong on the death certificate or what.
Tim
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 31/03/2006 :  04:01:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Death certificates are second hand information given in times of stress and aren't always accurate. Women generally went by more than one name/nickname/middle name in their lives and this could be the case here.

This string is getting rather long and full of alot of information on many different people. Without reading through all this information, do you have Martha marriage records, including civil and church?
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 31/03/2006 :  10:40:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tim,
this is about Martha Ensrud, not Julseth isn't it?

There's no doubt that Martha Ensrud's mother was Karen Olsdatter, christened on 07 FEB 1847, Jevnaker, Oppland, with parents Ole Hansen & Marte Olsdatter, and living on the Melaas farm in Jevnaker in census-1865.

It could be that she was named/christened Karen Marie, but there is no proof of that in any of the records found about her so far.

  • Her (Karen Olsdatter) own christening record from 07 FEB 1847 (at LDS) says Karen Olsdatter.
  • Census-1865 says Karen Olsdatter.
  • Census-1875 says Karen Olsdatter.
  • Her marriage record from 31 DEC 1875, Trefoldighet Menighet church, Oslo, Akershus, says Karen Olsdatter.
  • All christening records of her 7 children says mother: Karen Olsdatter, except for the first one (Ole), which says mother: Kari Olsdatter.
Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 31/03/2006 13:39:10
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TLarson
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USA
205 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2006 :  17:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes the death certificate was for Martha Ensrud. But when she married John Julseth so that would be why it changed. I will stick with the fact that here mother's name was Karen since the records say that.
Tim
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TLarson
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USA
205 Posts

Posted - 25/04/2006 :  17:01:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again
I am wondering if it is at all possible to find out when Martha's sister Marie died in Norway. I have found letters that she sent to Martha still in 1969 so she would have died some time in the 1970s. I don't know how you would figure out that information. Also I am wondering if it can be found as to when Martha's brother Anders passed away. We have no living relatives on that side of the family living in Norway as far as I know. So I don't know who to ask about this info. Any help would be appreciated!
Tim
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TLarson
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USA
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Posted - 25/04/2006 :  17:03:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again
I am wondering if it is at all possible to find out when Martha's sister Marie died in Norway. I have found letters that she sent to Martha still in 1969 so she would have died some time in the 1970s. I don't know how you would figure out that information. Also I am wondering if it can be found as to when Martha's brother Anders passed away. We have no living relatives on that side of the family living in Norway as far as I know. So I don't know who to ask about this info. Any help would be appreciated!
Tim
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2006 :  19:25:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
are you sure about no living relatives in the area?

There are still Ensrud's living on the Ensrud farm in Gran as of today, according to the norwegian phonebook: Click here

Give them a call or write a letter, they should at least know someone you could direct your questions to...

The norwegian land register from 1950, Ensrud farm (landnumber 242), Gran, Oppland:

Titleno. 1, Ensrud, owner: Olaf H. Ensrud and Marie Ensrud
Titleno. 2, Ensrud, owner: Anne Ensrud
Titleno. 3, Berget, owner: Charles K. Berg
Titleno. 4, Ensrud, owner: Kaare Johannessen
Titleno. 5, Kruggerud, owner: Erik H. Smedsrud
Titleno. 6, Ensrud, owner: Paul T. Ensrud
Titleno. 7, Kruggerud, owner: Ingel B. Kruggerud
Titleno. 8, Brokerudhagen, owner: Lars Larsen Brokerudhagen d. y.
Titleno. 9, Ensrudmyren, owner: Peder Martinsen Myhra
Titleno. 10, Berg, owner: Paul T. Ensrud
Titleno. 11, Berg, owner: Anders Pedersen
Titleno. 12, Kuroa, owner: Egil B. Gundersen
Titleno. 13, Tusserud, owner: Einar Fjoran


Anders Pedersen on the small holding Berg could be Maries brother.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 25/04/2006 19:55:22
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TLarson
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USA
205 Posts

Posted - 26/04/2006 :  16:21:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello
Thanks for this info, nice to know there might still be some relatives living in Norway. This might seem like a dumb question, but I've never sent a letter to someone in a foreign country so what are the addresses for these people and how exactly do I go about sending a letter to them. Thanks!
Tim
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 26/04/2006 :  18:32:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim,
I found some email addresses which could be interesting
I'll send them to you by mail.

Jan Peter
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Hopkins
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USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 26/04/2006 :  20:38:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And any US post office can help you with appropriate postage for "snail mail" to foreign destinations.
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TLarson
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USA
205 Posts

Posted - 27/04/2006 :  16:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
would it be at all possible to find the death certificate for Martha's sister Marie? or don't they keep records of that the same way in Norway as in America?
Tim
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