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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 25/04/2006 : 19:32:15
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| Trans-Atlantic migration is very well documented,but Im looking for info on possible sailings from Norway to Aberdeen or Leith (Edinburgh). I know Hull was a regular destination but I think the Scottish docks are more plausable,given the fact my ancester married in Edinburgh in 1885. Any advise or info would be very greatly appreciated. Feel free to email me on bill@hughesdrivertraining.co.uk. Many thanks for reading this. Bill |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2006 : 22:05:54
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| There were many ships sailing between Norway and Scotland through time. From 1870 till 1872 the Anchor Line also operated a regular route in sumer between Christiania and Granton Dock via Christiansand. There were also many Norwegian sailors who went via British ports to seek employment. |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/04/2006 : 17:06:41
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| Thank you Borge. I will follow that lead and keep forum posted of any progress |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2006 : 21:56:13
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| Thanks for that Hopkins ?? Here are the basic facts. Approx 1870 ( if you read my new topic in the Forum ) my ancesters came to England as a couple with ( I assume)1 child who was born in Norway 1854. He married a local girl in Leith in 1885. The name at marrage was Nicholson, now this may have been an English translation of possibly Olsan,because I think Nicholson is more of a Scottish name Unfortunatly the marrage certificate is a photocopy and very difficult to read. Your suggestion about the mission in Leith is well worth following up. Many thanks Bill |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 01:28:31
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| My apologies Admin as you rightly say this is not a new topic |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/05/2006 : 01:49:49
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| Please read the topic I wrongly put in as a new topic. My apologies to all concerned. |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 03:10:50
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Many thanks to all those who have previously replied.
Please bear with me, I think i had better clarify the known facts that have just come to light in last few days, via my cousin in Austraiia.
My ancester, Ole Nicalson, was born 1854 somewhere in Norway,he was the son of Nichalas Nicalson and Olana ( nee Olson).
We do know he was a ships carpenter which in those days was a highly respected skill. So he either emmigrated to Scotland or left his ship in Scotland
Ive tried the seamans mission in Leith ( thank you Hopkins ) with no results
He married in Edinburgh ( Leith ) in 1885. He is not in any UK census until 1891when he was comfirmed as being aboard a UK ship. This suggests he was still in Norway between 1854 and his marriage in 1885
I cannot use the Bygdebok as I dont know in what area he was born. There is no record of any Farm Name.
I have tried the LDS site with no success. Any more suggestions. Bill |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2006 : 04:24:55
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Is it possible that Ole's fathers last name was assumed to be Nicalson since it is more common for father & son to have the same last name? Since Norway followed the patronymic naming system his father could have had a different last name. All this leads to in the 1865 census for Stokke, Vestfold there is a Nikolai Jonasen and Oliane Olsdatter (Olana Olson) with a son Ole about the correct age. Click Here
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/05/2006 : 12:55:20
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Thank you very much indeed for the info Carla. I think you have got it spot on. After double checking the information from Austrailia, there is a single one line referance to Johnson with double question marks. Given old Engish writing this could easily be Jonasen.
Thanks to you I now have an area and a Farm Name. Being relatively new to genealogy can anyone suggest my next step.
Many many thanks again Carla |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2006 : 14:26:38
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Being relatively new to genealogy - it is always good to study. Good books at the library can be studied. Online articles about "how to" might give you good advice.
Read again these "how-to" articles - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html
Then roll up your sleeves and get to work - you have research to do. |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
16 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2006 : 17:09:37
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Yes Hopkins how right you are !!! I have had so many red herrings,but I think Ive got something positive to work with now.
i still cannot get any info on the Leith Seamans Mission ,I may have to resort to the old fashioned pen and paper method to get a response.
I do know he became a seaman so there must be a record somewhere, its just a matter of perseverance.Thnks for your help. bill |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2006 : 18:01:42
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If you actually looked through page by page of church records for the Leith Seamans Mission (as copied to LDS microfilm) and he wasn't mentioned on any of those pages - then maybe he just didn't attend there...
Of course, I recently found a family marriage record that had eluded me for YEARS! It was on an LDS microfilm reel of Norwegian church records that I'd looked through repeatedly - but I'm sure that it must have been written in invisible ink until this year!!! My eyes aren't getting any better - I'm absolutely sure of that! |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2006 : 02:20:00
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I know what you mean about the eyes Hopkins. in the UK its called the sell by date. I!!
It would appear there were 3 seamans missions in Leith Purely for future reference,they were Seamans Mission, the Seamans Hostel and the Seamans Home. The latter has now been converted into a hotel,such is progress.
At the moment Im following the suggestions about LDS, but I think I may concentrate on the parental history rather than an individual. But Im still intriged on how he came to settle in Scotland. Maybe a night in port, then out on the town and met a local girl and fell in love,who knows ! Regards Bill |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
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Posted - 14/05/2006 : 19:30:55
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| If he came to Scotland as a sailor, and settled there, he probably worked on British ships. Foreign seamen were ticketed in order to work on British ships and records are kept at the archives at Kew. I am not very familiar with what information they contain, but they should be well worth checking. |
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hughesdriver
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/05/2006 : 01:06:50
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| Thank you Borge That is yet another path to follow. The UK National Archives web site is an absolute nightmare,it makes the Norwegian Census look so easy. I think it will be easier to trace the family line as opposed to an individual. Ive made a start ,but as you well know its a long and complicated process. Like I have said before,this site is absolutely fantastic. The knowledge and help of members is unbelieveable. Once I have rectified a problem with my Pay Pal account I will be making a donation. You are all volanteers ( cant spell it ) and you deserve all the support you can get. Bill |
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emigrants Norway to Scotland 1850-1885
