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lanoffs
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 Posted - 22/08/2006 : 18:32:23
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| I am seeking information about the geneology of the Barka family from Stavanger. My grandfather, Olav Barka (circa 1890-1954) emigrated to Chicago, IL in the early 1920's via Ellis Island. Anybody know any relatives? Tak! |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 22/08/2006 : 19:11:45
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Ellis Island states that Olav Barka's destination was his brother Alfred Barka, 2111 Nebraska Ave, Chicago, Ill.
Nearest relative in Norway was wife Anna Barka, Gate 166, "utsikten", Stavanger
Erling Barka arrived Ellis Island on May 18, 1923, sailing with SS Bergensfjord from Stavanger. His destination was also brother Alfred Barka, 2111 Nebraska Ave, Chicago, Ill.
Nearest relative in Norway was father Aksel Barka, Lerviksveien 34, Stavanger.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 22/08/2006 : 19:55:19
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Anna Emilie Barka b.1890
Aksel Barka b. 1918
Bergliot Barka b.1919
Solveig Barka b. 1921
Marton Barka b. 1923
All from "Tjodalfsgaten 48" left Stavanger on 04-JUL-1929. Could it be wife & children of Olav Barka? 
Aksel b.1918 could to be named after Olavs father.
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Hopkins
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 22/08/2006 : 20:27:52
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Anna and children are the family of Olav, in the 1930 census they are in Chicago, IL and Olav's immigration date is 1923 and Anna and children's is 1929.
Here is the link:
click here
No online passenger lists for 1929 NY that I know of. |
Edited by - Jo Anne Sadler on 22/08/2006 20:29:35 |
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lanoffs
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Posted - 22/08/2006 : 23:31:02
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| Thank you all. I do know that Anna (my grandmother) and family (Solveig is my mother) are Olav's family. What I am interested in is the geneology. Where did Olav's father Aksel come from? The Hopkins link about the ancient farm 'Barka' near the Strand district seems promising. Again, tusen tak! |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 22/08/2006 : 23:45:11
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I don't recall you mentioning that Olav's father was named Aksel before? Do you have more information and dates about other members of the family that you haven't mentioned?
The resources for Strand that I've used in past years are available on microfilm through any LDS Family History Center. The bygdebok for the area is NOT available through those microfilm resources. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 00:08:41
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When Erling Barka arrives at Ellis Island on May 18, 1923, he states that his closest relative in Norway is "Father: Aksel Barka, Lerviksveien 34, Stavanger."
Erling Barka is going to "Brother: Alfred Barka, 2111 Nebraska Ave, Chicago, Ill.", so they must be brothers of Olav.
They could of course be half-brothers...
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Hopkins
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 00:47:45
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The earlier link to the 1900 census and Bjorn Barka family in Strand led me to search for the same Bjorn in the 1865 census -- he had a brother named Aksel! -- getting an interesting gathering of names in this family group, coincidence?
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1130&kenr=005&bnr=0006&lnr=000
If this were my family to research - I'd start tracking all the extended family members of these 'Barka' farms in Strand and those easily found on the online databases - through the less easy (but more rewarding) parish church records.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 01:02:14
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Hmmm... how can we link these people together?
Axel Asgeitsen, born 10 NOV 1855. Parents: Asgaut Thorsen & Martha Asgautsdatter.
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lanoffs
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 01:13:27
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| I know that Alfred and Erling are the brothers of Olav. He had at least 1 more brother, Tomas, and at least 2 sisters, Akseliana (sp?) and Berthe. I learned that his father's name was Aksel from jwiborg's post above. I'm not sure I understand the connection to the Asgeitsen family. Thank you all again! |
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 01:52:43
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The reason we look at everything is to try to get clues and we do not know what you do and do not know. Sometimes one finds information going through the back door, ie: looking for siblings.
Here is Jan Peter's "Axel" in the 1865 census:
clickhere
Here is the link to the Strand microfilm church records that Hopkins mentioned, it is certainly is something to look up:
click here
The online parish records for Strand do not start until 1904.
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lanoffs
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 02:11:23
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Thank you again. So Axel Askaudsen (son of Askaud Thorsen) MAY be Aksel Barka, father of Olav Barka. (Having taken the name of the farm, Barka!) Wow, he would have been 38 years old when Olav was born. Is this possible?
Do you know how I can access parish records for the district? That may indicate who were the children of Axel Askaudsen. You have all been tremendously helpful.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 02:33:32
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Well, I don't think fathering a child at 38 is something exceptional, even 100 years ago. You must be very young to ask that question. My great-great-grandfather in Stjørdal fathered 14 children with two wives over a 40 year period, the last one when he was 64.
You can access the records by clicking on the link I provided in my last posting. You can rent these microfilms at a local Family History Center.
On the free Rootsweb.com Social Security death index there are several listings for Barka's in Illinois including Thomas, Aksel and Erling.
Also on Rootsweb there are quite a few family trees posted by someone named Noffs that has been copied and downloaded many times. It says they Axel, Olav, etc. were born in Stavanger which is probably incorrect, they moved to Stavanger and left from there but most likely they were born in Strand. Are you the Noffs that posted this information then you have Olav's exact date of birth, etc.
Here is Askaud & Marthe in the 1900 census in Stavanger:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal®ister=fornavn&pgj=260&teljing=ft1900&filnamn=f01103.wc2&amt=11&funnenr=341
If you have not printed these out before, Hide Search Field and print in landscape.
Now if someone could find Axel and Olav in the 1900 census, I sure can't.
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lanoffs
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Posted - 23/08/2006 : 15:39:21
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Wow, the Rootsweb.com was posted by my husband. i didn't know he had put it online or how to find it. I don't know how he found the information, but thank you for finding it for me. Obviously he was somewhat incorrect. Anyway, I still don't know anything earlier than Olav's father Aksel Barka (who is possibly Axel Askaudsen or Axel Asgeitsen).
When I click the link: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal®ister=fornavn&pgj=260&teljing=ft1900&filnamn=f01103.wc2&amt=11&funnenr=341
I get a blank page. I'm not sure how to search that database, but will try to figure it out.
I think I will try to locate information on Axel Asgeitsen (Askaudsen) and ASGAUT THORSEN (Askaud Thorsen) who apparently was Axel's father.
Thank you for all your help so far. This is tricky with all the name and spelling changes! |
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