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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 02/11/2006 : 20:28:37
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Doug,
I'm quite confident that Abraham Gotfred Tønnesen is your Abraham G. Thompson.
Though I haven't had any success in finding Abraham in the available online emigrant records from Norway, it doesn't mean he's not there..., he's just hiding... 
Eilena "Lena" Watney should also be there, and she should also be in the online 1865 Norwegian census. I agree that she most likely is from a Vatne farm in the Farsund area, but I don't think Oline Amalia in a link above is your girl. This Oline is born in September 26 Sep 1864, which is a year later that your Eilena.
I believe you should do a little more reseach in the US, and have a few questions for you.
Have you located Abraham and Eilena in any US-census?
Have you found their wedding record? It could include her fathers name...
Can you give us the list of their children, and where they were born? A child could have been named after Eilena's father or mother...
How confident are you with Eilena's dob? Could it e.g. be the 15th of July? And have you verified her birthyear in several documents?
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ddwebb
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2006 : 20:39:51
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Anything is possible on the birth date of Lena. I will have to do some research in my archives at home to see if I actually have a record of it, if not, then where did I get the info, possibly my mother and her memory is sketchy now-a-days.
I have 1900, 1910 and 1930 US Census on them.
1910 Census (April 22, 1910)
Home: Denver Ward 7, Denver, Colorado
Children in home:
Stella
Lester
Margaret
Elmer: dob 1901, California
George: dob: 1905, Colorado
1930 Census (April 3, 1930)
Home: Portland, Oregon
Kids in home:
Stella G.
Margaret E
George Earl: dob: Colorado
Allone D: dob: Colorado
Had not thought about the wedding record, the were married in Iowa, will check for a record here, maybe I can find it.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2006 : 20:58:42
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Yes,
try to locate their original marriage record.
This should be them, too many coincidences at the same time.. 
Abraham G. Thompsen & Lena Olsen
Marriage: 05 JUL 1885, Den Norsk Evangeliske Lutherske Menighed, Sioux Rapids, Buena Vista, Iowa
Jan Peter
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ddwebb
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2006 : 21:05:35
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Seems to be the same, just looking on Iowa site now but they dont or I have not see 1885 the year of the marriage.
Still looking. Will let you know when I find it, I hope. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2006 : 21:24:51
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Finding the original record of their marriage could give you more information that what's available on the Net. For instance, it could list her fathers name, even though it's not written on the online transcribed version.
I don't know where the original records of 1885-marriages in Den Norsk Evangeliske Lutherske Menighed, Sioux Rapids, Buena Vista, Iowa are stored, but someone should know...
I found one Lina Olsen, emigrating from Kristiansand on Sept. 19, 1879. She is listed as 18, being born ca 1861 in Farsund.
There are several "Lina" Olsdtr who fit in the census for Farsund & Vanse, this is one of them: Eline G. Olsdtr
Eline Gesine is born 05-Aug-1862.
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ddwebb
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2006 : 21:46:58
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I found a ship, need to bring in info tomorrow, that possibly shows Abraham on a boat that left Belgium and arrived in NY.
Does this make sense? From what I am told, he worked on a vessel and maybe he depoarted from Belgium as his last vouage to the US? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2006 : 21:48:04
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Hi,
actually, the Gabriel which Hopkins found in a previous posting was the right one, he is Abraham's paternal grandfather!
In 1865, he is living at home (farm=Midhassel), but has given over the farm to his son Christen Gabrielsen. He is listed as a widower.
LDS has registered these children to Gabrial Andreas Olsen & Torbor Nielsdr:
Olene Gesine Gabrielsdr , christened 14 FEB 1813 Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
Ole Gabrielsen , christened 01 SEP 1816 Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
Dorthea Gabrielsdr , christened 23 JAN 1820 Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
Christen Gabrielsen , christened 06 JUL 1823 Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
Tønnes Andreas Gabrielsen, christened 01 NOV 1829 Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
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ddwebb
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2006 : 21:49:24
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| I have not found a link that will allow me to view a marriage certification from Iowa, may have to send a letter to them to get it. I was hoping it would be online and easy to find, but nothing in this family has been easy. |
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ddwebb
Starting member
USA
20 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2006 : 21:56:42
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How long after the birth did the Christening take place? From the record on Abraham, it looks like it was a few weeks later.
So if that is the case, I can take some of these christened dates and think that they were born a few weeks earlier but not have an exact date.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2006 : 22:04:46
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quote:
Originally posted by ddwebb
How long after the birth did the Christening take place? From the record on Abraham, it looks like it was a few weeks later.
So if that is the case, I can take some of these christened dates and think that they were born a few weeks earlier but not have an exact date.
Make sense?
Yes! It should be christened before it's 3 months old. That is still the main rule here in Norway.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 01:07:21
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"I have not found a link that will allow me to view a marriage certification from Iowa, may have to send a letter to them to get it. I was hoping it would be online and easy to find, but nothing in this family has been easy."
Not everything is online, not everything is free. I would say you have been mightly helped by people on this site with regard to your family. I have been doing this for 30 years and have not found everything yet. I started pre-Internet, pre-photo copying machine. |
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ddwebb
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 14:27:44
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Your very correct. I believe that I will have to send a letter and money to the state of Iowa for the marriage cert.
Don't get me wrong, I truly appreciate everybodies help in obtaining the research that I have never been able to find. Especialy in the Norway research as I cant read Norweigian and it has been difficult.
These folks have been super in helping me. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:00:36
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Check for records of Iowa marriages in the County where they lived. I've found that the application for marriage license often contains more information than the actual marriage certificate.
Many of us don't read Norwegian. We learn to use Norwegian-English dictionary and those few helpful online lists of translated words. Links to the 'how-to' articles also include translations of column-headings on such important records as censuses and church records. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:23:05
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Or; there is also a possibility that you can do it yourself...
As shown in the link above ( Abraham G. Thompsen & Lena Olsen's wedding), their church-record have been registered by the LDS.
Church: Den Norsk Evangeliske Lutherske Menighed, Sioux Rapids, Buena Vista, Iowa
Batch Number: M587551
Source Call No.: 1428814 IT 5
Dates: 1885 - 1895
That means that you can go to a local LDS centre, and locate the wedding using a microfilm viewer. It should take you less than an hour now that you have their marriage date...
Let's hope it's them then...
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:28:59
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Unfortunately, this looks be the Lina Olsen I found emigrating from Kristiansand on Sept. 19, 1879. She can not be the right one... 
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Can't Find Abraham Thompson of 1864
