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maryemcfadden
Starting member
USA
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 Posted - 27/10/2007 : 22:50:27
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I'm looking for information about the marriage of Elise Christiansdtr Leich who was born Naes, Hedmark about 1837. According to my research, she was a sponsor at her nephew's Baptism as of 2/1/1858 Vardal Church record and her farm was Lillehagen.
Elise married a man by the last name of Hanson and they had 2 daughters .. Hannah born October 1861 and Hildua born October 1864. They came to the U.S.A. 1866-1867 but I have no information on port of departure or arrival . She was a window when she married in the USA in 1868.
Can anyone please tell me how I can find out more about her marriage and the full name of the man that she married??
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/10/2007 : 23:10:36
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She is widowed and appears with her two daughters in the 1865 Norwegian census -
Einerstøen, Næs, Hedmark 1865
Looking for the daughter's birth records should give you detail about their father's name (possibly Fredrick Hansen).
She probably married in Næs, Hedmark also so check the marriage records for Næs.
The parish church records for Næs, Hedmark are available either on LDS microfilm or by looking through the scanned records online at the Digitalarkivet website.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 23:28:45
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I've gone back and looked at your previous entries here since 2005.
The second link I posted above gives you access to an excellent article about HOW TO read and use the actual Norwegian church records.
You'll remember where the lists of translated words were available from before.
The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. They are planning that this project of adding the records may be finished by the end of the year 2007. More records are added every week.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 23:54:43
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Fredrick Hansen and "Lisabet Christiansdtr" had an illegimate daughter they called Hilda in Feb 1859, Nes, Hedmark. (see record #71)
Hilda Fredricksdatter
They married soon after that child born -
Fredrik Hansen marriage
See - work yourself through the appropriate pages for the records desired. Have fun. |
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maryemcfadden
Starting member
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Posted - 31/10/2007 : 23:49:53
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Thank you for your reply! Based on the information that you provided I was able to look up the birth of Hilda and several others. I am having a problem trying to read the penmanship
(turning 86 in Dec ., so I guess I can't complain). The information was on page 56 of 1859 births, parish copy NAES line 71 (sorry, not too good at linking either).
For father's residence, it looks like Grefsheimer. Is this correct? Also, it says ORGH and 13/15. Would you know what this means? For sponsors, I can make out Jens Christiansen - Gjovik - Vardal - I can't make out the rest ,except maybe Ole Christiansen.
On 1861 death, page 335 #15, I found Hilda's death, age 2. Couldn't make out any thing after Fredriksdatter.
I have a few more questions but won't delineate them now in case you are not able to help.
Thank you for your time and effort on my behalf
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2007 : 14:06:10
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Hi,
it looks like Fredrik Hansen, age 26 when he was married 1859 ,was born in Ringsager (Ringsaker) parish close to Nes.
His father was Hans Christoffersen. The farm he came from, not sure, but it looks like Gaaserenglia to me. In 1865 there were two farms named Gaaserud in Nes.
This could be Fredriks birth record, born noc 25. 1833 in Ringsaker, his parents was Hans Christofferen and Eli Frandsdatter Slaatmyren-Gaard(farm Haymaking bog)#9
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Edited by - Kåarto on 01/11/2007 14:07:44 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2007 : 17:14:57
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"Grefsheimer" wouldn't be very Norwegian -- but "Grefsheim" might be.
Since you are interested in farm names in Nes district of Hedmark - you can look at the 1865 Norwegian census to see what farm names were used similar to that.
Digitalarkivet website, choose 1865 census, choose Hedmark, choose "Næs", under search options for "Nytt gardsøk" pull down "Gard" in box A, pull down option "alle termar" in box B, click on "Søk" button -
Screen will present list of all the farm names appear in Nes in the 1865 census in alphabetical order.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/11/2007 : 06:42:22
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I'll try to help with the reading problems - in Frederik Hansens wedding record the farm name is "Grefseng-ejet".
In the baptismal record for Hilda - born in Febr - the note refers to Frederik Hanses wedding "Ægteviet 13/5 59"
The sponsors were "Jens Christiansen, Giøvig i Vardal med kone Christian Hansen, Gundersveen i Veldre med kone og Ola Christiansen Grefseng-ejet."
Jens Christiansens wife can be found here
Christian Hansens wife can be found here |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 02/11/2007 07:22:03 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 09:41:17
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Hi,
you are right about Grefsengeiet.
I was working with a farm Gaaserud- Gaaserudeie at the same moment, sorry for the mix-up.
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maryemcfadden
Starting member
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 21:33:17
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Thank you ALL for your help ... I APPRECIATE IT!
Hopkins was right when she said just turn the pages and have fun ... after three years of looking, I FINALLY found the UDFLYTTEDE records. Elise Christiansdtr Leich and her two daughters , left Naes Hedmark County on April 13,1867.
I also found her sister-in-law, Kari Oldsdr, age 31, who is listed on page 328 in the Parish Udflyttede records for Vardal Oppland 1867
I could just use a little more help please with regard to Kari ... On Line 5, is it Dalgren? and what is above it? Line 6 lists Kari.
Lines 5& 6 are joined together with a bracket with a notation after it. Could you please tell me what it says ... also how does overholden translate?
Kari Olsdr 31 is married to Jens C. Leigh of Gjovick. Back in 2005, I was primarily searching for Jens and his family and ,to date, thanks to help from this site, I have volumes of information from both Norway and the United States ... except for information on their voyage, which, despite my best efforts still remains a stumbling block. I have documentation to show that they arrived in NY but it doesn't show the date and the ship.
Last question, now that I have learned from the Udflyttede records that Kari left on August 2, 1867 going to America and Elise left on April 13, 1867 can I dervive any clues from this information? I learned that Kari left from Christiana but I don't know what the port nearest to Hedmark would be.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 22:27:55
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I'm more than a little confused. How do you skip to Vardal in Oppland from Nes in Hedmark?
What you are looking at in Vardal is NOT Utflytte records -but Inflytte records... persons ENTERING Vardal parish. This particular 31 year old Kari Olsdatter is married to Ole Christophersen Dalgren. That's why they are bracketed together. Overholden is probably the name of the area they have come from. No Jens C. Leigh of Gjovick is mentioned.
You MUST learn to capture the links to pages you'd like others to "look over your shoulder".
Working direct links to the scanned images on the Digitalarkivet can be copied and pasted from the desired page from a display option available. At the top of the scanned image page is an option labeled "Bildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Image Information"[English version] which is by default set to "Ingen" [Norwegian version]/"None" [English version]. Change that and magic is available. Of the three options I like "Øverst" [Norwegian version]/"On top" [English version] because it puts the additional information across the top of the page and is usually easier for me to see.
Copy either the permanent page link on the line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] or the permanent image link "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] given. The permanent page link will bring the user to the exact same web page location, with source information displayed and with all the choices for viewing at ratios from 20 to 150%. The permanent image will display only a jpg image file with greatly more limited zoom capabilities.
The first line "Kildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Source information" [English version] is a really nice summary of the source of the information and is wonderful to have for making detailed source citations, footnotes, etc.
The second line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] is the best line to capture if you want to share the actual scanned image and the source information. It allows the full capabilities for zooming in and out to best view the image and informs the recipient of the exact location, book and other details to be able to find WHERE you found the information.
The third line "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] is the best used to print a copy of the image or to save a copy of the image in a jpg format computer file. This line does NOT also capture the source information and therefore is NOT the best line to copy to share online when requesting help or assistance in deciphering the image found.
There is a testing forum on this website - you can just practice linking, and other options available for display in posting here. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:07:15
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Since the Hilda Fredriksdatter found by Hopkins died two years old the widow Elisabeth Juliane Leuch and Frederik Hansen had another daughter Hilda who was born Oct 4 1863 and christened Dec 6, see #129.
The oldest daughter Christiane was born Oct 26 1860 and christened Jan 1 1861, see #5 the father Frederik Hansen, Grefseng-eiet and mother Lise Christiansdatter.
Elisabeth was born March 19 1837, see #32 her father Christian Jensen Leich was at Bye and the mother was Anne Olsdatter, ref. 1865 census earlier in this thread.
Christian Jensen Leich, his parents Jens Leich and Johanne Pedersdatter and siblings in 1801 can be found here |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 04/11/2007 20:36:01 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 20:50:31
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Elisabeth had a brother Jens born Dec 5 1832, see #14
The father Christian Jensen was then a shoemaker living at Bye.
Christian and Anne were married Nov 28 1831, see #24 theywere at the farm Schjelve-ejet. He was born in Drammen his father being organist Jens Leich at the Strømsøe parish.
Annes father was snedker Ole Andersen Jersengsveen i Leuthen (Løiten).
Christians christening record is from Jan 18 1801 see the bottom of the left hand page here
His father was then a blikkenslager.
Anne was christened April 10 1808, see #26
Her parents were Ole Andersen and Else Gulbrandsdatter living at the farm Morthof. |
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Edited by - eibache on 04/11/2007 22:34:13 |
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