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ddwebb
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 Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:36:08
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Here I thought I had to go to Salt Lake City to get microfilm work. There are 2 locations in a realtivly short distance. Will have to check them out.
Thanks
I am pretty sure that Lena Olsen is my greatgreat grandmother as when I provided the name, she said it was G grandma Lena.
In one of the responses in the past day or so, someone provided a link to a Norway site that mentioned that her last name of Watney, which is how we know her, may be the farm she lived on, Vatney I think was the spelling. so maybe it might have been Lena Olsen Vatney in Norway?
On Abraham and his migration to the US. I found this the other day doing some research. Not exactly sure it is him but if I remember right, the name fit.
Passenger List in New York
Arrived April 3, 1882
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Place of Origin: Norway
Ship: Pieter de Coninck
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 24
Need to do some more research on this link.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:48:57
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Hi, I saw his arrival on Castle Garden now, registered as "Abraham Tonnesar"
Being a Norwegian, Tonnesar must be a misspelling of the lastname Tønnesen, so I would say this looks very much like your guy! Good catch! 
Jan Peter
ps: "Lena Olsen" is most likely the woman you're looking for. But it's like looking for Mr John Doe.., her name is quite common, and my point was that it can not be the Lena Olsen who was found emigrating from Kristiansand on Sept. 19, 1879.
We're still looking for a "Lena Olsen", but the one from Sep-19-1879 was a "namesake"...  |
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ddwebb
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:55:27
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| So how would that explain how he was able to sell the farm in 1833 if he arrived in the US in 1832? Maybe the wrote via e-mail? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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ddwebb
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 16:08:07
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If I get a chance, I will try to locate the LDS office on Saturday to see if I can get the marriage cert and then if that is the lady and dude, then maybe it will have her parents name and dates on it. One can always hope. But so far, I have tons more information about this family than I did a few days ago with the major help from you and others.
I cant thank you enough. |
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ddwebb
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 16:51:19
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| I am sorry if this is a taboo and not thought of. I did not realize that the boards were connected. I have been nothing but appreciative of all the effort everybody has given me. |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 17:40:20
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It's not taboo but it is kinda like having two girlfriends and keeping it a secret from each other. If you are getting information from another source, you should let other people know so they are not spinning their wheels. It's not like anyone is getting paid to do these stuff. We all look at the same message boards. |
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ddwebb
Starting member
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 17:48:42
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Thanks. I will try to summarize what I have found thus far: This is lengthy.
I think I have found the ship and date that Abraham G. (Tonnesen) Thompson came to the US:
Passenger List in New York
Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/quick_search_result.php?p_first_name=abraham&p_last_name=Tonnesar&m_arrival_date_start=1882&m_arrival_end=1883&submit.x=46&submit.y=13
Arrived April 3, 1882
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Place of Origin: Norway
Ship: Pieter de Coninck
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 24
I have found lots or you have found lots of info for me on my great grandfather in Norway and lots of his relatives.
LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES died 1704. She married BJØRN NORDHASSEL KRISTOFFER in Hitterø/Hidra Parish.
Child of LISBET ABELSNES and BJØRN KRISTOFFER is:
2. i. JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2 NORDHASSEL.
Generation No. 2
2. JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2 NORDHASSEL (LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES) He married HENEVIF JONSDATTER. She was born 1616, and died 1704.
Child of JAKOB NORDHASSEL and HENEVIF JONSDATTER is:
3. i. KRISTOFFER JAKOBSEN3 NORDHASSEL, b. 1686; d. 1772.
Generation No. 3
3. KRISTOFFER JAKOBSEN3 NORDHASSEL (JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2, LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES) was born 1686, and died 1772. He married ENGEL KRISTOFFERSDATTER TJØRVE.
Children of KRISTOFFER NORDHASSEL and ENGEL TJØRVE are:
4. i. VIVEKKE KRISTOFFERSDATTER4 NORDHASSEL, b. 1726; d. 1811.
ii. LISBET KATRINE.
iii. AUGUSTA KIRSTINE, b. 1728.
iv. JOKAB NORDHASSEL, b. 1730.
v. GUNILD NORDHASSEL, b. 1734.
vi. KRISTOFFER NORDHASSEL, b. 1737.
vii. PETERKJE NORDHASSEL, b. 1739.
viii. JENS NORDHASSEL, b. 1743.
ix. ENGEL NORDHASSEL, b. 1745.
Generation No. 4
4. VIVEKKE KRISTOFFERSDATTER4 NORDHASSEL (KRISTOFFER JAKOBSEN3, JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2, LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES) was born 1726, and died 1811. She married KRISTEN KNUDSEN TORP. He was born 1726, and died 1808.
Notes for KRISTEN KNUDSEN TORP:
Vibekke/Vivikke Kristoffersdatter Nordhassel (nedre)
Children of VIVEKKE NORDHASSEL and KRISTEN TORP are:
5. i. ENGEL KRISTINE N5 NORDHASSEL, b. 1761.
ii. BENTE KRISTINA, b. 1756; d. 1782.
iii. JAKOB NORDHASSEL, b. 1763.
Notes for JAKOB NORDHASSEL:
Died at a young age
iv. KARL KRISTIAN NORDHASSEL, b. 1767; d. 1782.
Generation No. 5
5. ENGEL KRISTINE N5 NORDHASSEL (VIVEKKE KRISTOFFERSDATTER4, KRISTOFFER JAKOBSEN3, JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2, LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES) was born 1761. She married LARS ABRAHAMSEN VESTHASSEL 1783, son of ABRAHAM LARSEN NORDHASSEL. He was born 1761.
Notes for ENGEL KRISTINE N NORDHASSEL:
It also says they also owned a farm on Nedre Nordhassel which was split among the three daughters.
Notes for LARS ABRAHAMSEN VESTHASSEL:
It also says they also owned a farm on Nedre Nordhassel which was split among the three daughters.
Children of ENGEL NORDHASSEL and LARS VESTHASSEL are:
6. i. SOPHIE EPHERGINE6 ABRAHAMSDR, b. Vanse, Farsund, Vest-Agder, Norway.
ii. KRISTINE VERDINE ABRAHAMSDR.
Notes for KRISTINE VERDINE ABRAHAMSDR:
These two periodically mentally sick wifes are sisters
Aunt living next door: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f61041&gardpostnr=445&personpostnr=2336&merk=2336#ovre
iii. ENGEL KRISTINE, b. 1809; d. 1872.
iv. TRINE ELISABETH, b. 1811; d. 1823.
v. LARS TOBIAS, b. 1816; d. 1865.
vi. ANNE ELISABET, b. 1821; d. 1853.
vii. NILS ABRAHAMSEN, b. 1823; d. 1842.
viii. OLE KRISTIAN ABRAHAMSEN, b. 1825.
ix. ANDREAS WESSEL ABRAHAMSEN, b. 1829.
x. PAULINE JOAKIME ABRAHAMSDR, b. 1832.
Generation No. 6
6. SOPHIE EPHERGINE6 ABRAHAMSDR (ENGEL KRISTINE N5 NORDHASSEL, VIVEKKE KRISTOFFERSDATTER4, KRISTOFFER JAKOBSEN3, JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2, LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES) was born in Vanse, Farsund, Vest-Agder, Norway. She married TONNES ANDREAS GABRIELSEN 25 Nov 1856 in Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway, son of GABRIEL MIDHASSEL and TORBORG NILSDATTER. He was born 1830 in Vanse, Farsund, Vest-Agder, Norway, and died 1878.
Notes for SOPHIE EPHERGINE ABRAHAMSDR:
also listed as: Sofie Evergine Abrahamsdatter Kaade (Kaade is a subfarm under Vesthassel. Sometimes people used the subfarm name as surname, but more often they used the larger farm, Hassel in this case
Sophie is a "Abrahamsdr", because she is the daughter of someone named Abraham. So your Abraham is most likely named after his maternal grandfather.
Disse to periodisk sindssvage Koner ere Søstre = These two periodically mentally sick wifes are sisters.
Disease: sindssvag mentally ill, mad
Remarks: Disse to periodisk sindssvage Koner ere Søstre
Occupation: Grdbruker, Selveier Farmer, homeowner
Family Position: Husfader (head of a family) & Hans Kone (his wife) & Hans Son (his son) Should prob. have been their son, because Sophie is listed as mother at the christening record.)
More About SOPHIE EPHERGINE ABRAHAMSDR:
Christening: 02 May 1819, Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
Notes for TONNES ANDREAS GABRIELSEN:
Tønnesen, because he was the son of Tønnes
More About TONNES ANDREAS GABRIELSEN:
Christening: 01 Nov 1829, Lista, Vest-Agder, Norway
Children of SOPHIE ABRAHAMSDR and TONNES GABRIELSEN are:
7. i. ABRAHAM GOTFRED (GABRIEL)7 THOMPSON, b. 07 Aug 1864, Farsund, Norway; d. Jun 1939.
ii. GABRIEL ANDREAS TØNNESEN NORDHASSEL, b. 1859.
Generation No. 7
7. ABRAHAM GOTFRED (GABRIEL)7 THOMPSON (SOPHIE EPHERGINE6 ABRAHAMSDR, ENGEL KRISTINE N5 NORDHASSEL, VIVEKKE KRISTOFFERSDATTER4, KRISTOFFER JAKOBSEN3, JAKOB KRISTOFFERSEN2, LISBET PEDERSDATTER1 ABELSNES) was born 07 Aug 1864 in Farsund, Norway, and died Jun 1939. He married LENA WATNEY 05 Jul 1885 in Sioux Rapids, Buena Vista, Iowa. She was born 25 Aug 1866 in Farsund, Norway, and died 27 Dec 1958 in Portland, Oregon.
Notes for ABRAHAM GOTFRED (GABRIEL) THOMPSON:
It is believed that Abraham changed his name from Tonnesen to Thompson after leaving Norway
Postcard found:
Thompson A G Postmaster & pioneer settler of Ballard (?) (Nn ?) was born is Farsund Norway Aug 7th 1864. Educated in Norway at age 14 took to sea faring life. Served on Norweigen & United States Vessels to age 17, then devoted himself to business something. Moved to Iowa. He remained in the groc trade for 8 years with considerable success. In March 1889 moved to Ballard where he established the first Groc store in the place, there only a wilderness but today an Incorporated city. Looks like approved, Post Office Master Aug 22, 1889 was married to Miss Lena Watney July 5 1885 Souiz Rapids Ia His death June 1939 age 75
Taken from "History of Wn" in book Vol 2 (roman numaral) Pub New York American Historical Pub Co
A 1930 Portland Census says that he entered into the US in 1880.
At age 14 sailed in Norwegian and United States vessel up to age 17
Immigrating to Iowa, and went into the grocery business, for 8 years
March 1889 moved to Ballard, WA, established the first grocery store
Appointed Postmaster 8-2-1889
(Considered one of the pioneer business men of Ballard, WA)
Married Eilena Watney 7-5-1885 at Sioux Rapids, Iowa. |
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ddwebb
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 17:51:52
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| Thanks and again I am sorry. As you can see from my last message, I have listed all the information that you and all the others have provided to me. I am most greatful for everything. I will try to remember it in the future. |
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debbie jacobsen
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Posted - 03/11/2007 : 21:19:56
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I found Abraham Gotfred in Listaboka, the Bygdabok.
He had a brother named Gabriel Andreas b. 1859 (died when little). His father was Tønnes Andreas Gabrielsen born at a neighboring farm called Midhassel (1830-1878). Tønnes was married in 1856 to Sofie Evergine Abrahamsdtr (1819-1875).
She was from Kåde, another farm ear Nedre Nordhassel. Abraham Gotfred Tønnessen was very young when his parents died. He inherited the farm at Nedre Nordhassel and sold it in 1883 to Jakob Andreas Jakobsen.
If you're still interested in finding out more about Abraham Gotfred Tønnessen's parents, I'll look it up for you.
debbie.jacobsen@dcsdk12.org
By the way, do you live in Denver? I do. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 01:29:29
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| Debbie - He already has the information from the Listaboka - see earlier in the thread. |
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Can't Find Abraham Thompson of 1864
