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einarh
Medium member
Norway
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 Posted - 12/01/2007 : 15:01:13
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Hi - long time since last time!
Perfectly guided and assisted by Brining, Hopkins and a few other advanced members, I succeeded in getting contact with "My American Family" - whereof two visited us in Oslo last summer! Thanks a great lot to all good helpers!
Next hunt is for Sirianna Ottersdatter's three sisters, Ingeborg Ottersdatter (b. Bardu in Norway 1857), Mary (Marie) Ottersdatter (b. Tylldal in Norway 1836) and Marit (b. Tylldal in Norway 1833).
Marit emigrated with her foster parents some time after 1845.
Her foster parents were Ole Olsen Brandvold and Kari Jonsdatter Bondåsen, both of them from Bardu. They most likely settled in Polk county, Minnesota.
Marie emigrated some time after 1865 and Ingeborg as late as 5th May 1900 with her son Ole Ingvard Johansen. (As for Ingeborg and Ole Ingvard, there are indications that they went to Canada).
This is too big a challenge for poor me....
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Flapjaxsid
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2007 : 23:14:02
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I was born and raised in Polk County, Minnesota and still have a sister living there. Any idea what part of Polk County they lived in. By the way, I had a wonderful trip to Valdres Valley, (Fagernes, etc.) last October. Many Polk County residents immigrated from that area.
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
868 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2007 : 05:13:47
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Hi Ole Olsen Brandvold, wife Kari and 3 sons are listed in Utvandret fra Målselv og Bardu leaving April 1 1866 but Marit does not appear to be with them Click Here
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 13/01/2007 : 15:45:15
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi Ole Olsen Brandvold, wife Kari and 3 sons are listed in Utvandret fra Målselv og Bardu leaving April 1 1866 but Marit does not appear to be with them Click Here
Carla
OK Carla. Seen and noted. But I know that some of the census and emigration lists in Norway might contend incorrect info - and omissions, even if most of it is safe enough. So how to get hold of passenger lists for ship concerned at the time of sailing? |
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Borge
Veteran Moderator
Norway
1297 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2007 : 18:18:38
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They sailed on the Norden from Bodø:
Passenger list 1866 - ship Norden
Ole seams to be listed as # 100, then Karen and children # 102-105. Seams to be a discrepancy in the information listed at Digitalarkivet and in info on the transcription of the passenger list. # 135 seams to be Iver, # 94 Johan. There are other corresponding names on the list, which could be relatives. |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
868 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2007 : 20:54:15
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Hi In the LDS there is Mari Ottersdr and Maret Ottersdr with parents Father Otter Ottersen Mother: Maret Eriksdr
In the 1865 census Click Here Marit is a widower with children Eric Martin Mari and Ingeborg living in Bardo.
In 1875 Click Here Marit is living with son Otter and Ingeborg is also living with him. I believe this is Mari Click Here working for Hans Olsen. So it looks like Mari (Mary/Marie) didn't emigrate till after 1875.
Carla
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2007 : 18:10:46
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi In the LDS there is Mari Ottersdr and Maret Ottersdr with parents Father Otter Ottersen Mother: Maret Eriksdr
In the 1865 census Click Here Marit is a widower with children Eric Martin Mari and Ingeborg living in Bardo.
In 1875 Click Here Marit is living with son Otter and Ingeborg is also living with him. I believe this is Mari Click Here working for Hans Olsen. So it looks like Mari (Mary/Marie) didn't emigrate till after 1875.
Carla
Hi Carla, Marit should have been on board the NORDEN from Bodø to the states in '66 with her foster parents, according to the Bardu bygdebook.. Mari must have emigrated after 1875, as precisely observed by you. For Borge: I shall have another look for Marit under the names Bonasen (Bonåsen, Bones or Jonson, her mother's name). There were a number of second marriages on both sides of her foster parents, so her "emigration name" could have been one of the above as well as Ottersdatter.
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2007 : 20:40:25
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Originally posted by Flapjaxsid
I was born and raised in Polk County, Minnesota and still have a sister living there. Any idea what part of Polk County they lived in. By the way, I had a wonderful trip to Valdres Valley, (Fagernes, etc.) last October. Many Polk County residents immigrated from that area.
Sid Thompson
Hi Sid! The Bones people (several families) seemed to have a special feeling for Polk. I do not, however, know of the different townships in Polk, but a clue to finding people from Bardu would be to look for names like Bonæs, Bonaes, Bones, Bondasen, Bondåsen, Bondaasen, Bonasen, Irgens - and not least one single person who became rather famous at that time, the "predikant" Bersvend Andersen Bonaes. "Our" Marit and "our" Mari COULD have settled in Polk. if we are lucky.
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
868 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2007 : 23:10:25
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A scan of the Norden manifest is on line Click Here then click on view image. It may help to look at the original since transcribing isn't always exact. you may find Marit by looking at the original.
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 15/01/2007 : 18:05:36
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Hi Carla, I have gone through the LDS microfilm copies of passenger lists and have found Ole Olsen Brandmo and his wife/children. No trace of Marit Ottersdatter there. Then who knows when she went .... |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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868 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 04:15:09
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Hi Einar I found Kari Jonsdatter in the 1865 census living on the Nygaard farm but she is a widower Click Here I then found that she had married Ole Olson Brandvold in 1866, must have been shortly before they left for America. It doesn't seem likely that they were Marit's foster parents unless it was one of them with their privious husband/wife
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
868 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 05:13:15
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Hi Einar, I located Marit in the 1865 census Click Here living in Tranø with son Ole Johnson, the same Ole Johnson living with Marit's family in the 1875 census? Click Here but Marit is not there. Did she die or immigrate?
I fixed the 1875 link
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 10:18:57
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi Einar I found Kari Jonsdatter in the 1865 census living on the Nygaard farm but she is a widower Click Here I then found that she had married Ole Olson Brandvold in 1866, must have been shortly before they left for America. It doesn't seem likely that they were Marit's foster parents unless it was one of them with their privious husband/wife
Carla
1.According to Bardu Bygdebook, the widower Kari Jonsdatter Bondåsen (b. Tynset 1818) married Ole Olsen Brandvold after he became a widower himself. At that time, Kari Jonsdatter had 3 children, Jon, b. 1841, Martin, b. 1843 and Johan, b. 1845. The father of the children was Ole Jonsen, who died in 1851 so that Kari became a widower.
2.Her new husband, Ole Olsen Brandvold had the foster daughter Marit Ottersdatter (b. Tylldal in Tynset prestegjeld). Marit Ottersdatter was the oldest child in the Ottersen pioneer family that moved north to Bardu. She was born in 1833. Bardu Bygdebook says that Ole Olsen B. (and his new wife) took their «stepchildren» and emigrated to the USA. Is there reason to assume that «Marit fosterdaughter» was one of them, traveling to America with them? |
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2007 : 10:53:02
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Originally posted by Brining
Hi Einar, I located Marit in the 1865 census Click Here living in Tranø with son Ole Johnson, the same Ole Johnson living with Marit's family in the 1875 census? Click Here but Marit is not there. Did she die or immigrate?
Carla
She definitely emigrated, according to LDS! - oh - ooops! Correction: The LDS data you sent me, Carla, was not about emigration, was it?
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 05:13:08
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Hi Einar, I think the Bygdebook probably meant Kari's children. In the digitzed parish records for Bardu Otter Otterson is shown returning from Tranøy in 1867 so both he and Marit were there. Ole Johnson's confirmation record is in Bardu and it lists his mother as Marit Ottersd. Finsot and Johannes Kristian Jakobsen but doesn't indicate if they are living. I looked through the records for Tranøy but didn't find any for Marit leaving or death but I could have missed it since it isn't always easy to read the old handwriting
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einarh
Medium member
Norway
77 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2007 : 14:41:37
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Hi Carla.
thanks a lot for putting things right as for the Ottersdaughters.
It must have been a quite widespread practice for pioneer families in Bardu and Målselv in the 1800s to have some of their children spread on established farms in the county. Marit was in Sørreisa (and had a son named Ole Martin Johannessen there). Bardu Bygdebook vol II says (in the farm survey chapter) that Marit Ottersdatter had emigrated to America. Her sister Marie worked at Moholt in Bardu - not far from the Ottersen Holtet farm. She also settled in America. And I have spotted their younger sister Ingeborg at the Kollen farm a few kilometers north of Moholt in later years. Also Ingeborg had a son, he was named Ole Ingvald Johansen and as far as I can see, his father came from Aremark in Østfold, Southern Norway and was travelling as a "sukkerbrødbaker" (sweet bread baker). I have tried to trace him without success. Ingeborg and her son emigrated in 1900 when Ole Ingvald was 8 years old. I am trying to find him and his mother in Canada with help from Canadian genealogists in Alberta. |
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Edited by - einarh on 21/01/2007 15:41:31 |
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