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jmfristad
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2007 :  06:22:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greetings! Following is the info I know...

Johannes Olsen Fristad
Born 1859
Traveled to the US from Bergen three times. Passenger lists from Ellis Island shows two of these visits:
1) 1903
2) 1904

The third is referenced in the 1904 citation ("ever before in the US"):
3) "yes, in St. Louis 1882-1883"

jmfristad
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2007 :  06:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am unable to find any passenger list of this third (though chronologically first) visit to the United States.

Would New York be the likely route, or from New Orleans via the Mississippi?
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Jo Anne Sadler
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USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2007 :  19:21:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you look at the Index of Arrivals on Norway Heritage, you will see the many different destinations of ships. At that time, there were no direct ships from Norway to North America.

He is in the Digitalarkivet Bergen police protocols for 1903 and 1904, he is from Askvold, Søndfjord, I could not make the link work, maybe Jan Peter can help.

I could not find him earlier but he may have not gone by Fristad when he traveled on the "first" trip but you can search the above database for 1882 and a couple of possibilities came up, born 1859, with the fathers name of Olsen and leaving off Fristad. You can check here for the routes of the shipping lines. For example, the America Line had routes to Philadelphia.

It is doubtful that he came by New Orleans, that was not a popular port, especially in the summer with the frequent malaria and other tropical disease outbreaks.

Train travel was well-established in the U.S. by 1882, that was probably the way he traveled if he arrived in the U.S.

Then, as now, travel involved many factors, cost, convenience, availability, time of year and he may not have taken the obvious route. You have to find him on a passenger list to try and determine how he traveled.

The Askvold (Sogn og Fjordane) parish registers are available online through Digitalarkivet:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_id=2113

I could not find him in 1882 but the moving out records do not seem to be complete:

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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2007 :  16:41:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He could also have arrived at several different northern ports - perhaps even through Quebec which was quite busy during those years. He could have taken transportation from the north on the Mississippi river to reach St. Louis.
What railroad transportation was available in the St. Louis area in the early 1880's or from possible arrival ports? A topic you should also investigate.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2007 :  17:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, all those different ports are listed on the Index of Arrivals on this site.
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