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matthewmac66
Junior member
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 Posted - 22/02/2007 : 17:01:17
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi. About your question of the location of Haugen. If Haugen in the delta across Odnes is a part of the Odnes area i think it´s the right farm, but as Jan Peter pointed out , Haugen could also have been located to Odnes, maybee sold and demolished.
When parents left over the farm to a son or a daughter they became Føderådsmann or as in this case Føderådskone. mann =man and kone = wife. When thy left over the farm to one of the children an agreement about Føderåd was made.
In this case widow Marte Johansdatter became Føderådskone on the farm.
Other adults living on a farm not relatef to the ownesrs was Fattiglem-Pauper and Inderste/Innerste- Renter or Lodger.
Another word for Føderåd was Kår, Kårmann or Kårkone
Marte Johansdatter was Kristians mother and she had left over Haugen to her son Kristian when she became a widow.
The English name for Haugen is heap and tells you where in the landscape the farm is plased.
Kåre
Thank you for the clarification, Kåre. It would seem that the "heap" was very good to them. I appreciate all of the ongoing help with translation.  |
M. McClellan
North Carolina, USA
Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
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matthewmac66
Junior member
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - 23/02/2007 : 03:59:36
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Thank you all very, very much for your help and input during this thread. It's sincerely appreciated.  |
M. McClellan
North Carolina, USA
Ancestry: Kristenhaugen/Haugen/Christiansen, Olson, Knudsdatter/Kindsæth |
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dhaugen
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 09:17:27
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| It has been interesting reading the entrees on the Haugens from Odnes. I have located my great grandfather in the Fluberg parish register. His name was Ole Johannessen and was christenend Oct. 19th, 1845. I believe from the records that his father was Johannes Johannessen and his mother was Marit Olsdatter. He had a brother John and a sister. The 1865 census has them living at Berg Kristenhaugen. If this thread is still active, any information which would help me in a search would be appreciated. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 10:03:17
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The daughter Inge M in the 1865 census should actually have been Inger Martea, see #1
Johannes Johannesen was born Aug 5 1814, see #35
his parents were Johannes Christophersen and Anne Christophersdatter |
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Edited by - eibache on 14/01/2008 10:36:57 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 12:57:17
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David,
the family in this topic lived on Haugen in Fluberg in 1865.
After the parents died three of the siblings emigrated in1879, the rest shortly after to Bode, Iowa .
It was a large emigration from Land to USA, they called themselves Landinger and it was a great meeting of Landinger in connection to a church jubile in East Wiota in 1934.
Landings settlements in USA are located to following places:
Rock Prairie, Wis., Wiota Wis., West Paint Creek Iowa, Zumbrota Minn., Norway Lake Minn., Richland County Minn., Trempeleau County Wis., Bode Iowa and Hillsboro ND.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 14/01/2008 13:17:33 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 14:41:27
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Johannes was christened in Nordsinni church in Nordre (Northern) Land parish and municipality. Nordre land had two parish´s, Nordsinni and Østsinni (Northern and Eastern).
Fluberg is in the northern part of Søndre (Southern) Land parish and municipality at lake Randsfjorden.
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dhaugen
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 16:23:19
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To Kaaro and Einar who responded to my search,
It could be that I have the wrong topic. I believe my ggrandfather to be Ole Johannesssen ( September 24th , 1845 found in Land: 1830-1846, p. 116).
I believe his brother is Johan Johanessen (Dec. 28th, 1841 found in Land: 1830-1846, p. 81)
I thought the sister to be Inger Martea (Dec. 13th, 1849 found in Fluberg Hov in Land:1847 - 1859)
The parents , Johanness Johannessen and Marit Olsdatter)I believe were married on Dec. 27th , 1839 (Land 1833-1849)
My ggrandfather Ole married Andrine Juulsdatter also from Land (family is in 1865 census on the Paulserud farm in Land). I don't have the parish register of their marriage, but their daughter Marie was born February 11th, 1876, Sondreland 1860-1877 page 266/
Family history says they immigrated to America in 1879. My grandfather Jul Haugen was born in 1881 Pelican Rapids, Mn. This family shows up in the 1900 census in Oakville township ,Grand Forks county, North Dakota.
If you have access to additional information that would aid me in determining for certain if I am on the right track in search of my Haugen ancestry in Norway.
We were in Norway for six weeks in the summer of 2006, but I was unaware of this side of my ancestry.
Thank you for your interest in helping.
dhaugen
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 20:08:34
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I understand that Marie, see #48 is your grandmother - she was born March 14 (not Febr. 11) and baptized April 16 in the Fluberg church.
Her parents were Ole Johansen and Andrine Juulsdatter.
The question now is whether Ole Johansen and Ole Johannesen you have is one and the same person. Only the marriage record can give us an answer.
The marriage record is #24
they were married Nov 23, Ole Johannesen born 1845, father Johannes Johansen (he was laso best man).
This means that Ole Johannesen, see #173 is your ggrand father - his brother is #2 and his sister #1
Andrines birth record is #3
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Edited by - eibache on 14/01/2008 21:01:00 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2008 : 20:18:17
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Interesting to see the name Kristenshaugen again.
If I remember right no connection to the farm Kristenshaugen (1865 cencus) and the family in this topic was found even they used the name Kristenshaugen in USA.
Some of the siblings also grew up on Berg after the father died and Inger Mathea was born on Berg in 1848.
I couldn´t find Ole Johannesen´s emigration record, but his father:
Widower Johannes Johannese Haugen and his daughter Inger Mathea Johannesdatter Haugen emigrated from Fluberg to America in1882 # 3- 4
The "Bygdebook" for land written before WW 2 has been published in a new, updated edition this year and could perhaps answere your questions.
Kåre
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dhaugen
Starting member
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Posted - 15/01/2008 : 00:33:20
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Thank you so very much. This all but confirms that the Johannes Johansen at Berg Kristenhaugen is my gggrandfather and that Ole Johansen or Johannesen is my great grandfather who took the farm name Haugen. I was somewhat surprised to find the marriage of Ole and Andrine in Northland. There is some question as to whether or not Andrine had a previous marriage. Thank you Einar.
Thank you Kaare for the emigration information on Johannes Johannesen Haugen. I was wondering how the youngest sister got to America. The scarce amount of information I had to go on didn't mention Johannes Johannesen's emigration. Any additional information or correction would be appreciated.
Thank you also for information on the new publication of the Bygdebook. Perhaps I can find it in Tacoma or Seattle (Ballard)
David
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/01/2008 : 07:20:52
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| From he marriage record you will see that Andrine had not been married before, she was "pige" - maiden when she married Ole. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/01/2008 : 12:30:34
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Ole Johannesen Haugen and Andrine Julsdr. Haugen emigrated with two children, Johanne Marie age 4 and Martin Edvard age 11 from Oslo on Nov. 4 1880, dest Barnesville Minn. on ship Angelo, Wilson Line.
Kåre |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 15/01/2008 : 14:42:11
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A couple of comments to the emigrants in 1880, the daughter Johanne Marie must be the Marie #48 found earlier, why Johanne is added to her name is difficult to say.
The boy Martin Edvardsen, 11 years old, is most likely #50
Johan Martin the "uægte" son of Anne Marie Johannesdatter and Edvard Larsen, see here
Could the name Johan for the boy have been posted as Johanne for the girl?
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dhaugen
Starting member
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Posted - 15/01/2008 : 17:20:55
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I wasn't surprised to see Marie listed as Johanne Marie. She went by Johanne in an early North Dakota census. She is my grandfather's only sister. My grandfather Jul Haugen was born in Pelican Rapids, Mn. in 1881.
Marie Johanne emigrated to Canada after marriage.
The presence of Martin Edvardsen is interesting. I'll have to search early North Dakota and Minnesota censuses. I'm not aware of a family relationship at this time.
Andrine's sister Siri Juulsdatter married Christen Larsen. When they emigrated, they took the family name Berg. There could be a connection here.
Again I thank you both for your research. I was simply fortunate to wander unto this website and inquire about Berg Kristenhaugen.
My grandfather Jul, along with many many Norwegian immigrants, settled the lands in western North Dakota. My parents described growing up with multitudes of young people. The January ediion of National Geographic did an article on the land. They called it "The Emptied Prairie".
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dhaugen
Starting member
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Posted - 15/01/2008 : 19:19:56
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I do have one other quest that probably should be undertaken in a new topic. Family history states that there is the presence of a person named "Sperati" in the life of either my ggrandmother Andrine or her mother. He was a musician who performed in Oslo. I have not been able to find any evidence of marriage as is indicated in the writings, however I have been able to find one Immanuel Paulsen Sperati in Ringsaker, Hedmark at the baptism of a daughter Pauline Maria - #101, 1870. This event puts the two parties in close proximity. Finding the connection is more to put to rest family lore than to find a family connection. A brother of Immanuel Sperati , Carlos, came to Amerca as a young seaman and attended college at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa . For a short time, he came west to Tacoma , Washington. At Pacific Lutheran University, he taught music and was an ordained minister. He then returned to Iowa. As a graduate of Pacific Lutheran, any connection peaks my interest.
David
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