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kathysigd
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USA
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Posted - 29/03/2007 :  06:47:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am searching for information about Carl Harramb born about 1852 in Norway. He immigrated to the US about 1880. Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Kathy

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Hopkins
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Posted - 30/03/2007 :  17:27:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am unable to find any US census with a Carl Harramb entry.
The most similar Norwegian farm name I've encountered is Heramb or Herramb in Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 30/03/2007 :  18:43:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, it's very difficult to find someone with so little information. Not even where they settled, spouses, children, etc., etc., etc.
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kathysigd
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Posted - 30/03/2007 :  22:50:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My great grandaunt Anna Thoe 1858 Tiegdalen immigrated in 1872 to Dodge County, MN. She married a Carl "Harramb" (Herramb) and had a daughter named Tonette born 1884 ND/MN. I know that Tonette died young but don't know where or when? I found her last in the 1900 census visiting her grandparents Odd & Brita Thoe in Wheatland Tsp, Day County, MN. Anna Herramb died in 1927 in Yankton, SD and I know that Tonette died before 1927. I am having difficulty finding the family spelling of the name Harramb but have found this family in Washington State in the 1892 census with spelling Herramb. I was looking for some history of this name or how it was spelled in Norway?

Kathy

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Hopkins
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Posted - 31/03/2007 :  00:10:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carl Harramb or Herramb probably took this American surname from a farm in Norway where he or his family had history. The most obvious location in Norway for you to search would appear to be Ringsaker in Hedmark, Norway.

Just like the 'Thoe' family - it was not originally a surname, it was a location and probably a farm. The 'Thoe's were from Voss district in Hordaland, Norway but according to what you've told us Anna probably met Carl AFTER she was in the US meaning that he might be from anywhere in Norway. There is no farm with a name similar to Harramb in the Voss area.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1235&kenr=014&bnr=0087&lnr=000

The 1900 US census shows both Anna and her daughter with the Thoes in Day Co. SD. Tonette is listed as born in North Dakota April of 1884.
The 1900 US census also lists a Norwegian born Carl Herramb in San Francisco, California. There are also other Norway born 'Heramb' families in Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois.

Washington state did their own census in1892?


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Kåarto
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Posted - 31/03/2007 :  00:58:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, but I can´t find any Harramb in Norway.
August Herramb mentioned as Artilliry - officer in a letter written in Grimstad (Norway), Mai 20. 1844

Maybe a blind track but Haram municipality lies in Møre og Romsdal county on the West coast of Central Norway.
One Oluff Harramb paid tax in Sunnmøre (Southern Møre) in 1603 . Skatteliste (Tax list) 1603 ("Pengeskatten") for Sunnmøre
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?slag=vismeny&fylkenr=15&katnr=&emnenr=&aar=&dagens=&knr=1534

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 31/03/2007 01:33:59
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 31/03/2007 :  02:00:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the lodger Carl in the 1900 census in San Francisco is the correct one. His name is spelled Herramb, immigrated 1880, married 17 years. Searching under that name, I found:

1892 Seattle Washington census
C. Herramb, born Norway, about 1852, grocer
Hannah (Anna), wife, born Norway
Tometa, 8, born Dakota

In the 1898 Seattle directory,
Anna Herramb, grocer
Carl Herramb, manager

Carl was not a farmer in America and we cannot always think that all emigrants were farmers. The only evidence of a Herramb in Norway seem to point to Oslo, I believe this is Carl Evard Heramb, age 12, in the 1865 census:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=54&filnamn=f60301&gardpostnr=269&personpostnr=7673&merk=7673#ovre




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kathysigd
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Posted - 02/04/2007 :  02:44:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank all of you for your help with the name Harramb. I have found the US records mentioned but they are few. I cannot find the birth or death record of Tonette - she died young. She may have been married. I know Carl's wife Anna was from Tiegdalen, Evanger, Voss, Norway and died 1927 in Yankton. Her body was sent to Wallace, SD where siblings lived but can't find burial record there either?

Kathy

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kathysigd
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Posted - 03/04/2007 :  18:02:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a Carl Edvard Heramb - deres Barn - age 12 - male - Christiania. This Carl fits the approximate birthdate of the Carl Harramb I am searching 1852 in Norway. Can anyone help me with the translation of this record at http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=54&filnamn=f60301&gardpostnr=269&personpostnr=7673&merk=7673#ovre. I also would like any emigration information for this person and family. I have difficulty interpreting the Norwegian in the digital archives. Thank you.

Kathy

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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 03/04/2007 :  18:20:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I found him too in the posting right above your previous posting. Didn't you read it?

Anyway, you have to learn how to read this stuff yourself if you are going to do Norwegian research. There are many links on this site to Norwegian Dictionaries and help in reading old records. Digitalarkivet also has a help section that you should read.

I recommend you print out two copies of anything you find, one to save as an original and one to make notes on. I usually print out the census records on Landscape mode.
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kathysigd
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  06:33:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. Yes I did see your reply and that is how I found Carl Edvard Heramb but I don't know if he emigrated. I have looked at emigrants from Kristiana and Oslo but haven't found him. One record said he immigrated to US in 1880? I have done much Norwegian research and have visited relatives in the Voss area. Reading is not much of a problem (compared to German script) but I should have said navigating the digital archives - I don't always know the selections to make. I have to familiarize myself with other areas of Norway besides Hordaland and Nordland.
Thanks.
Kathy

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Hopkins
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  15:01:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are over 14 different emigration registers in the collection of the Digitalarkivet, a number of different ports and time periods.
It would appear that the man you called 'Carl Harramb' travels a great deal. Check the emigration protocol for the port of Kristiansand, there is one interesting possibility there. It isn't a perfect match - but little about this man has matched since you first listed him here.
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