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Roberta
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  00:59:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found an interesting report on the Digital Archives of Norway for Telemark in 1615 in a source category called "Landed Property Tax Protocols". The title of the report is "Odd Arne Helleberg: Jordebok for Telemark og Numedal 1615 Digitalpensjonatet, Digitalarkivet " see http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?spraak=e for the screen that gives you the choices that includes this source category. Does anyone have a good explanation for what "Landed Property" would be? Does it has something to do with the property originally owned by the king and/or royalty?

Thanks,

Roberta

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  01:17:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landed_aristocracy

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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  01:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Landed property tax protocols, in Norwegian matrikkel og Jordebøker. Matrikkel, latin Matricula, means register, term or list.

Jordebøker (bøker = books) is a register of property owned by a person or the church. Tax for the owner, profit/income for the King and church

The oldset Jordebok preserved in Norway is one page from Munkelivs (Munkeliv moanstary) jordebok in Jonskirken (church) in Nidaros /Trondheim from about 1100.

The most famous Jordebok in Norway is Bishop Eystein´s jordebok or rødebok (red book) from 1398

A funny coincidence, Odd Arne Helleberg is a fellow citizen of me.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 04/04/2007 10:04:41
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Roberta
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  02:13:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much for your answers.
So in the following, http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe
Andre Melås is receiving the tax on the Thouff (To) farm since his residence seems to be Heddal not Seljord.
Serial no. Farm Gml. namneform Local parish Parish Farm share Owner Residence Tax
1374 1356 To Thouff Seljord Se 4 t Anders Melås Heddal 1+2 sk
1375 1357 To Thouff Seljord Se 1/2 m Seljord kirke Seljord
I tried to copy the page here but I must be doing something wrong. He is shown as the owner of Thouff in 1615 which is as far back as I've found my family in Norway (Biørn Touf). The farm later became known as Toe or To. And it looks like part of the tax on the farm went to the church. I remember reading something about that practice somewhere. In the Seljord Bygdebok, I don't think Andres Melås is mentioned at all in the history of the farm. According to my Norwegian source, the Bygdebok said that my ancestor (also known as Biørn Teofilson) was the first owner and paid taxes on and owned the farm from 1602 to the early 1660's. It also said the second owner was Gunleik Andresson who was born before 1630 to 1635. I have not been able to determine who his father was and am wondering if it may have been a son of Andre Melås.

Thank you again for your help and quick response.

Roberta
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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  14:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
sorry, I have no acess to Seljord (Sillejord) bygdebok, but

Melaas in Heddal (Hitterdal) was Anders Inherit or birthright and he lived on Melaas already in 1604. In 1611- 1612 Anders is mentioned as a partowner in sevaral farms in Telemark (likely some was his inherit), among them Tho in Hjartdal (Hierdal). Anders forefather Anders Melaas was a local Referee "Lagrettemann" and judged in a case in Heddal Oct. 1564, enter DN XI 809 in the link, chapter 2, 2. line: Anndres Melaasz http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/navnegransking/rygh_ng/rygh_visetekst.prl?s=n&Vise=Vise&KRYSS123611@28109=on

The user of Tho had to pay a profit or a part of the harvest to Anders Melaas.
Present To spelled in many ways http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/navnegransking/rygh_ng/rygh_visetekst.prl?s=n&Vise=Vise&KRYSS125417@28496=on

The church was likely a partowner in Toe, it was usual to offer a part in a farm to the church mantioned in a persons last will.
In return the priest should mention you, your parents or other you wanted to honour by name in a sermon for the salvation of the soul.

Melaas: Mel = flour and Aas/ Ås = ridge

A farm contained in several units of land mentioned as tn-t-td-Markebol and Øresbol and likely more. As an amateur I shall not even try to explain these units in English.


Enter http://kart.finn.no/ write hjartdal, press søk and watch Hjartdal kirke (Church) by enter to satelitt. Remove mark by enter "fjern merkelap fra kartet". Zoom out 3.times until you see a lake and the name hjardal in East, dobbelclicik on H, zoom in an watch farm To from the air.
Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 04/04/2007 23:38:52
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  15:07:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try Odd Arne Helleberg or some of the others in this local historian association: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:ozEZM5h6n8oJ:home.c2i.net/pmbratteli/gjallarhorn/redaksj.html+ODD+ARNE+HELLEBERG&hl=nn&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=no&lr=lang_no

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 04/04/2007 20:03:06
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