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Kåarto
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 Posted - 08/06/2007 : 13:35:39
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Sandsværs historie, band III page 40 mentoned abowe in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=23&filnamn=f60629&gardpostnr=268&merk=268#ovre
say that Ole Olsen Arkoset was born in Gransherad in TelemarK about 1799 and his wife was Sigrid, so these were Knud and Arne´s parents. Graransherad was a local parish in Hieradl/Hjartdal parish before 1859, but farm Vollene med løken: Voll means pasture and løken is a small pond or forest lake, and this farm was a part of Gransherad that belonged to Kongsberg town.
Vollene 1865, it´s likely from this farm Ole Olsen Vollene was coming from.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=21&filnamn=f60824&gardpostnr=250&merk=250#ovre
Siri Knudsdatter Haugen: There are about 25 farms named Haugen only in Sandsvær. Haugen means heap and tells where the farm was located in the terrain.
I wonder why only only Arne´s bap. records from Kongsberg are listed, no confirmation- or emigration records even he is the one mentioned in US records. STRANGE, but not surprised, all records ar not 100% updated..
Akoset could hardly feed a family, did Arne grew up in Kongsberg in another family? Still many look ups to seek ,or I might have overlooked him.
Kongsberg kirke:
http://www.kongsberg.kommune.no/kultur/gater/data/b_kongsberg_kirke.htm
Efteløt kirke:
http://kongsberg.kommune.no/kultur/gater/data/b_eftelot_kirke.htm
Knud Olsen Arkoset left with one of these ships. Dep. port was likely Darmmen or Christiania/Oslo
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1859
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Edited by - Kåarto on 08/06/2007 20:46:46 |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 08/06/2007 : 15:04:28
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Kåre,
Great work! The things you're able to do while we sleep is amazing!
Another person with family from Hjartdal, that's neat! Miine left in 1843, but they settled only about 5 - 10 miles apart. I'll have to check with Telelaget to find out.
Jane,
Telelaget is the bygdelag for people with ancestors from Telemark. Check out www.telelaget.com
I recently joined that group.
Wanda |
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enigma
Starting member
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Posted - 08/06/2007 : 17:40:10
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Kare, this absolutely amazing, I can't believe it! It's just incredible. So, "Sigrid" mentioned in Indian Land is the same as "Siri" - so Knud & Arne have the same identical mother. I'll have to get to Scandinavia, WI and find out if they actually came to America and are buried there. There IS an "Ole Olsen" buried near to, or next to, Oluf G. Olson and his wife Caroline; Oluf would be the grandson of Ola Olsen Arkoset, the sole child of Arne & Guri O. Arkaasa.
Kare, thank you ever so much for all the work you've done on this, it is simply amazing, and I certainly wasn't expecting anything like this. Yikes!
And to Wanda - I had checked out that website several pages ago, back when Kare had mentioned that the farm Arkoset was "really" in Telemark, but was placed in Sandsvaer.
It's a really interesting website, and I hope that the site they link to, "My Astri, My Astri" - I hope that they continue past Volume IV with the series about Norwegian immigrants to the Americas.
The stuff I've read online about the early days of Scandinavia, Wisconsin is simply so idyllic - in comparison to Rolvaag's depictions of such horrific depressing conditions in the Dakotas - it's amazing that they are so different... but hilly woodsy Wisconsin, filled with lakes & rivers, I guess is essentially very different from the plains of the Dakostas.
I am simply amazed with all the facts that Kare has located, I wasn't expecting anything like this - I just wanted to find out the actual meaning of arkaas/arkaasa/arkosa/arkasa/arkose - but this was the only genealogy forum that didn't look too downright scary for a clueless newbie to ask such a question.
I suspect that there must be substantially more information in Wisconsin about Ole & Sigrid, Arne & Guri and Knud & Jonette - either in Scandinavia, or Iola or Waupaca or Stevens Point. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I have a strong hunch that there's lots more info about their lives in Scandinavia, Wisconsin. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/06/2007 : 18:15:26
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Hi both, and thanks for nice commendation.
I didn´t think of Kongsberg earlier, perhaps to close since I live there. I am born in Kongsberg, christened in Efteløt and confimed in Kongsberg so both the town and the country side is fond to me.
Could have been interesting to find Arne´s record from his confirmation and emigration, and Ole and Siri/Sigrids parents or what year before 1832 Ole came to Kongsberg and when they moved to Arkoset.
It´s also interesting to wake up in Norway and see what has been done in Norway H. during the night.
Internet is a blessing in genealogy.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 16:23:16
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Jane,
amazing, but not surprised after what you wrote about Sigri and Ole abowe.
Both Ole and Sigrid emigratet to USA in 1868, Arne and Knud send for them.
Also their daughter Sigrid b.a.-46 went with them.
Right page, nr 11-12-13: April 6. -68, Ole Olsen Arkoset age 68 og hustru (wife) Sigrid Knudsdatter age 71 Datter(daughter) Sigri Olsdr age 21 1/2. Amerika
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1127&idx_id=127&uid=ny&idx_side=-304
I´ll bring you Sigrids records later, if she married your family in USA are increasing.
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enigma
Starting member
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 22:23:24
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OMG!
UNbelievable, absolutely unbelievable. |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 22:50:34
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I'm not sure why I didn't look for this before and forgive me if I've already mentioned it, but my head is a little fuzzy today from some sort of flu bug.
1870 US Census - Scandinavia Township, Waupaca County, WI
Oleson, Arne (Arna) age 32 Male White Farmer Value of Real Estate $2,000 Value of Personal Estate $500 born Norway
Oleson, Gura (Guira) age 36 Female White Keeping House born Norway
Oleson, Oloff G. age 1 Male White born Wisconsin
Oleson, Ole 70 Male White born Norway
So we now know that Ole's wife Sigri or Siri has already died by 1870 and I don't think that your Ole is the one that you found that died after 1900. Possible, but not likely, since he would of been over 100 years then. I'll have to go back and look, but I think you have Arne and Guri in the 1880 census and if Ole isn't listed with them then, he probably died between 1870 and 1880.
Time to rest my head.
Good luck.
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Lislcat
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 23:32:54
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One more thing.
Did Arne and Knud have a brother Christian? There is a Christian Oleson on the page before Arne in the 1870 census. They probably only would of been about 5 farms away from each other. Christian is listed as being 44 years of age and is married to Marta and she is listed as 45. Both were born in Norway, but all of their children were born in Wisconsin starting in about 1855. The one thing that made me think that they could be brothers is that one of Christian's daughter's is named Gurina, possibly after Arne's wife? I don't know, but thought maybe Kåre might be able to see if there was another son born to Ole and Sigri around 1835-36.
If he is related, I'll list the census record for him, but if not, then there's no need.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 00:11:55
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Wanda, I hope your flu is just a short vist.
I shall take a look for an older son, because of two reasons it likely was:
1) The firstborn son should have been named after his fathers father: Ole.
2) Ole and Siri married 1832 and Knud was born -35.
If there was an older brother, perhaps he and Arne emigrated together?
Many if´s, but this make genealogy so interesting.
First I will give you this records.
Sigrid´s birth record from Kongsberg, nr 83
83 6. septb. 1846 Siri Ole Olsen Woldene og h(wife) Siri Knudsd
(I dont get Ole´s profession, but he might be working in the silvermines in Kongsberg where many strange professions appeared)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1100&idx_id=1199&uid=ny&idx_side=-40.
Si(g)ris confirmation recorcd from Efteløt church proves it all:
Nr 34 Sigri Olsdatter Gaaserudeie 6/9-46 Woldene under Kongsberg Ole Olsen Arkoset og Siri Knudsdr
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1127&idx_id=1127&uid=ny&idx_side=-152
Arkoset was a cotters place under Gaaserud (Gaaserudeie means owned by Gaaserud)
Farm Woldene/Voldene was in an area of Gransherad that belonged to Kongsberg as mentoned in the earlier 1865 cenus abowe.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/06/2007 14:05:18 |
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enigma
Starting member
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 03:29:26
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I didn't know that at one time they used the spelling, ol-E-son, I briefly checked the 'OLE' Surname index at the Vesterheim museum, and just on that one webpage there are many Olesons who state their residence is Scandinavia, Wisconsin.
Since Knud was named after his mom's dad, and Arne is younger than Knud, then it does seem that there "should" be an older brother, yet another Ole/Ola Olsen/Olson or Olesen/Oleson.
I think that Kare is going to trace my ancestors back to pre-history within the week, this is absolutely incredibly unbelievable -- I just don't know what to say.
http://www.vesterheim.org/CivilWar/db/o/ole/index.html
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Lislcat
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 05:28:07
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I just looked at what I wrote and I don't think Christian could be there brother, because he would of been born in abt 1826. My math was off with my head not feeling well. If they were married in 1832, there could of been an older son, I just don't think it would be Christian. He could still be related. Maybe a nephew of Ole's, but not a son. Sorry for that confusion.
Jane,
I think many of the Olson's started out as Oleson when they first came to the US and it gradually got changed to Olson. I've seen that with my family and with others. You see a lot more Oleson's in the older censuses.
Good night.
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Kåarto
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 14:33:38
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| You'll find Ole (f. 1800) and Sigid Knudsdtr (f. 1803) mentioned under the "Volland" farm notes with his parents and siblings, page 616 of "Gransheradsoga", by Ketil Tjønnås, Aaste Nisi, and O. A. Quamm. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 17:28:51
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Thanks for pointing out "Gransheradsoga" Hopkins, you seems very vell updateted with "Bygdebøker" from Telemark. A look up there in combination with records online would likely bring this family further back.
Gransherad /Kongsberg sounds confusing to me, but this was about 150 years ago, and the records from 1859 or earlier is in the records from Hjartdal municipality in Telemark Fylke.
Ole and Siri also had a daughter Berith born in Vollene/Kongsberg June 20.1841, "Døbte af Kvindekjøn" Bap. femmale June 26. 1842, right page nr 27:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1100&idx_id=1100&uid=ny&idx_side=-14
I wonder if Vollende /Wollende was used as last name in USA since they all was born there? Arkoset must have been very special to them since Arne used last name Arkoset when he voluntered in the Wisc. Artillery regiment.
Sandsværs Historie: band III p.680.
When Ole sold the Plaining bench mentioned earlier for a barrel of barley to the farmer on Gaaserud he used the row boat on lake Mykle.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/06/2007 17:31:32 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/06/2007 : 19:38:10
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Yes Kåre, I do a great deal of research in some areas of Telemark, most specifically in Hjartdal, Gransherad, Heddal/Hitterdal and Sauherad. The bygdebøker for Gransherad and Hitterdal are both available by Inter-Library Loan to US residents. The much newer Hjartdal volumes are still available for purchase from the kommune and to consult the Sauherad books I turn to volunteer 'Lookup' friends. My current personal family history project involves searching through all the Telemark probate indexes (on LDS microfilms).
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=f10827&gardpostnr=178&sokefelt=skjul
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