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wnche
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 Posted - 03/06/2007 : 23:18:00
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I wonder if anyone can help me?
I`m trying to find something about my grandmothers brother, who, as been said, left Norway to seek The American dream!
He`s name was Harald (Emil?) Gikling, born in sept. 1885, or 1886, in Sunndal, Norway.
We can`t find him at any lists for emigration, but we know he lived in the U.S from a letter.
If anyone know anything about him, wife, children, please let med know!
He may also have changed his name to Harold, or something simmilar...
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 01:55:18
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Well, the birth date is way off but this sure seems like him:
Harald E. Gikling, born 1897, arrived at the Port of Boston aboard the Samaria on July 6, 1923. He was born in Sundalen, pr. Kristiansund, Norway, his nearest relative is his mother, Mrs. Ingrid Furu in Sundalen. His destination is his aunt, Mrs. I. Yorske, in Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
In the 1930 census, Harold Gikling, single, born Norway 1897 is employed as a logger at the Polson Logging Camp #14 on the Quinaielt Indian Reservation in Grays Harbor, Washington.
On the free Rootsweb.com database there are other Giklings listed but no Harold. However, he is listed on the Social Security Death Index:
Harold Gikling, born September 4, 1896, died May 1977, Seattle, WA.
Vitalrec.com has information to order a death certificate. Ordering it online is really expense, recommend snail mail. |
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tlwright65
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USA
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
1100 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 03:23:17
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Who knows if this is the right "guy"? Not me! As I said it sure seems like the right person. The poster was not really sure of when he was born, did not give the names of the parents or siblings so one can only find what one can find.
Could you find a Harold Gikling born in 1897 in Sunndal in the 1900 census? Could you find a Harald Gikling born in 1885 or 1897 in the moving out records? He could have very easily gone by a patronomynic in the census or whatever, as as we do not know the names of his parents or siblings we can only search under one option, Gikling.
Until the poster comes back with more info, we really won't know who is who. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 12:37:38
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Originally posted by wnche
I`m trying to find something about my grandmothers brother...
Hi Wenche, was your grandmother named Berit Gurine or Ingrid?
The Harald Evensen Gikling mentioned above is born 04 Sep 1896, and is the son of Even Hansen & Marit Ingebrigtsdr. The family can be found on the Furu farm in Sunndal in census-1900.
He has a sister named Ingrid born 01 Jun 1901.
But I would like to know your grandmothers name before we continue...
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Edited by - jwiborg on 04/06/2007 13:54:41 |
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wnche
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 14:46:48
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Hi Jan Peter
My grandmother`s name was Marit Halvorsdotter Gikling, born 1878, Sundalen (Romfo sogn), father Halvor Olesson Gikling, and mother Lisbet(?) Oledatter.
To Jo Anne
I totally agree, it seems like the one, but the date of birth is not right, as you say. But then again, my father had a brother who died in 1926, and now it seems like he was given name after his uncle, you see, he was named Harald Emil...
I know my father tried many years ago to find him, he also contacted the Salvation Army, but not even them found anything about him.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 16:17:20
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Parents are always good to know....
Harald, born 7 Sep 1885, chr 12 Oct 1885, parents Halvor Olsen Gikling and Lisbeth Olsdr
Source: Møre og Romsdal fylke, Romfo i Sunndal, Klokkerbok nr. 591C01 (1869-1930), Fødte og døpte 1885
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wnche
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 16:54:33
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I know...
I also know when he was born and so on, the thing I don`t kvow, is when he left for the U.S.A, or maybe it could have been Canada? And then of course, where he lived, died, if he married, got children, and then if I may have some living relatives over there... |
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 19:58:02
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You may know all your family information but in order for us to help you we need to know things like parents/siblings names, other relatives who may have emigrated, etc. We are not magicians picking rabbits out of hats.
Where is Harald and his family in the 1900 census? Have you found him there? That would give a clue to when he left.
Was your grandmother the only sibling? Knowing everyone's name helps if he had children and maybe named some children after his parents and/or siblings. All these bits and pieces put together the puzzle.
When people emigrated from Sunndal, where was the most likely place they would leave from?
Finding out when he left , name used, if he traveled with anyone and his destination is the most important clue. The Sunndal church records are not completely online but the microfilm film records can be rented at a Family History Center. I am sure in Norway you have other resources to find out this important piece of information.
There is a very good possibility that he went by Halvorsen in the U.S. |
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wnche
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 22:59:18
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Jo Anne
If I have wanted a magician, I`ve looked for one:-)
In 1900 census they are at Bremsnes, my grandmother was the only sibling, he left for USA the in June 1923, from Kristiansund. This you also wrote earlier, but the age didn`t match, or the name of nearest relative, which there could be understood as Ingrid Furu, Sundalen. However, looking closer to the passenger list, made me one step closer. If we see above his name, it says nearest relative is Marit Gikling! It also says she`s the mother, but maybe his english was as bad as mine, and mother was ok?
Date of birth on this Harald is September 4. 1896, but in the church record he is listed as born on September 7. 1885.
Even so, there are som many things that match, so this is my best clue so far..
I have also found him in 1829, leaving Bergen, with arrival in Canada. (Halifax, Nova Scotia). And also registrated in border crossing documents from Canada to the US.
We know he was in contact with my grandfather or uncle, most likely by a letter?. But sadly, my grandfather is dead many years ago, and so is my uncle.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 23:48:37
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You are incredible.... How can you expect any response at all when you start a topic by given such (lack of) information??? It sure looks like you're looking for a magician, when you "hide" all this essential information...
The Harald you refer to from 1923-emigration is not "yours". As I said earlier, that is Harald Evensen Gikling, born 04 Sep 1896, and son of Even Hansen & Marit Ingebrigtsdr. Also in the churchrecords he is listed as born 04 Sep 1896. He is not listed as born 07 Sep 1885, as you claim.
And you say your grandmother was his only sibling? So who are these two? Ole and Guro. Both born on the Gikling farm. How many Halvor Olsen & Lisbeth Olsdatter'- couples was there on that farm...???
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wnche
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 19/06/2007 : 11:02:44
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Hi there
A lot of new information has come up!
We have allways been told that there were only two siblings in my gr.mothers family, but now I have found 11!! Allthough, only two of them got children themselves, the others died young, all, exept the one I am looking for. But; His name wasn`t Harald, it was Olaus, and he was born 23. August, 1880.
Harald died young in 1901 (age 16), and Olaus left Norway on 1.April 1911, arrived Boston, Mass. 13.April same year. I have also found him crossing the border from Canada to the US in July, 1912
In the WW1 records, I have found one Olaus Kling, born on August 23. 1881 in Norway. This one have listed up one Marit Kling ...... in Christiansund ? Norway as relative.
The original form is very difficult to read, so the last name on this Marit I don`t know, maybe it\ s just my imagination that says it can be my gr.mother...?
I also find one Ole Kling with the same birth-data, that died in Idaho in Dec. 1963. Can this be the one?
If anyone knows more, or where I can refine my search, I would like to know.
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