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renees
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USA
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Posted - 26/07/2007 :  23:23:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am looking for Ole Knudsen born Frysdal, Telemark 1804 emigrated to America in 1870 by way of Quebec. He was married to Birgit Jorgansdatter born Fyresdal about 1802 and died Telemark unknown because she did not go to America with Ole who went with his daughter Torbjor and her husband Halvor Toreson all of Fyresdal.
Any information on Ole and birgit's parents and siblings.
Thank you,
Renee Sanders, OREGON, USA

Renee Sanders

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  00:16:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0831&kenr=002&bnr=0001&lnr=000

That 1865 census entry gives you clues as to WHERE to look for births/baptisms.
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renees
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  00:33:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where is Tromo Sogn? I don't find it. The Moland parish records only go back to 1815 I need at least 1802.
Thank you,
Renee

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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  00:56:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Moland was a parish in Fyresdal - check Fyresdal records for those earlier years.
Tromø is probably Tromøydistrict in Aust-Agder - I'd imagine it would be the closest of the possibilities.


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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  00:58:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tromsø is fare north in Troms fylke (County) , the main city in northern Norway where so many expeditions to the artic has started from.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/troms.html

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  01:09:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps Tromsø was a wrong spelling, also the 1865 Norwegian census has Tromsø as his birth place, but

I was also thinking of Tromøy, because #8 Ole Knudsen age 32 was coming from Bygland in Setesdal in Aust Agder in 1836, and it seems he was coming with a friend #7 Hans Torbjørnsen age 25 from Tromøy sogn
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8014&idx_id=8014&uid=ny&idx_side=-237

Its more than1 hour passed midnight in Norway, time to take a rest.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 27/07/2007 01:11:03
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renees
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  01:27:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

Moland was a parish in Fyresdal - check Fyresdal records for those earlier years.
Tromø is probably Tromøydistrict in Aust-Agder - I'd imagine it would be the closest of the possibilities.




Thank You,
I did find the earlier years in Fryesdal but not Birgit. I did find her death record tho.
Thanks again,
Renee

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renees
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USA
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  01:30:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanx Kare,
That is Ole. I am trying to find his parents so i will try to look there. Have a good night.
Renee

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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  02:40:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Look again at the 1802 birth/baptism records for Fyresdal - there IS a girl with name like Birgit but I believe the spelling is just a little different. I only noticed ONE name like that.
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renees
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  02:52:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw that too but I couldn't make out anything like Jorgensdatter or the parents names.
Renee

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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  03:38:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't remember finding many birth/baptism records that would have listed the child's patronymic. Usually just a given name and then the parent(s). The patronymic would be obvious from the given name of the father.
My vision is very limited BUT I'll bet you a nickel that it's one of these two couples -
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f10831&gardpostnr=113&sokefelt=skjul
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=12&filnamn=f10831&gardpostnr=107&sokefelt=skjul

Where I've found a record "unreadable" I turn to other records that might exist. You could search for the marriage record between Ole and Birgit - that should list her father's name and/or the farm where she lived. Or hope that they recorded confirmation records with names of fathers and/or farms of residence.
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renees
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  04:06:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you,
I will check them out, I think it might be able to be one of them. Take care and blessings,
Renee

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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  11:36:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Birgit was born in Oct 1 1802, baptized at home and confirmed in church Oct 17 - but her name was Bergitte - her father was Jørgen Aadnesen and her mother was Torbjør Ormsdatter. Jørgen was according to the 1801 census born in 1776 and Torbjør in 1773.
Thorbiør was born Febr 21 and baptized Febr 28, see the fourth on in 1773 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-4
her father was Orm Eigilson and the mother was Birgith Ketilsdotter.
You will find Jørgen as the 7th from the top on the right side here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-14
He was born March 9 1776, baptized March 20 and his father was Aadne Jørgensen and the mother Todne Olsdatter.
Look!! one of the most interesting and beautiful marriage records I have seen - http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-59 - right side second from the bottom of the page
25 Februarii i Molands Præstegaard Tro-lowede den unge og ledige Personen Aadne Jørgenson Midgaarden og Thodne Oles Dott. Lillestue.
Co****rede derefter d. 30 Junij af Hans Mi. Abel. (**** should be pul and then an e)
Cautionister vare
Aadne Oleson Winsnæs
Knud Saaveson Berge

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 27/07/2007 11:42:38
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 27/07/2007 :  13:08:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The area has two? bygdeboker series available -
"Fyresdal : Gards- og ættesoge" 3 volumes by Steinar Marvik;
"Fyresdal" by Bendik Taraldlien.

Both are available by Inter-Library loan (through your local public library).
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renees
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USA
91 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2007 :  19:15:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

The area has two? bygdeboker series available -
"Fyresdal : Gards- og ættesoge" 3 volumes by Steinar Marvik;
"Fyresdal" by Bendik Taraldlien.

Both are available by Inter-Library loan (through your local public library).


Thank you, I will try to get them. I looked last night and I guess I owe you a nickle cause it was one of those couples. It was verified by another post this morning.
Thank you again for all of your help.
Renee

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renees
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USA
91 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2007 :  19:20:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Birgit was born in Oct 1 1802, baptized at home and confirmed in church Oct 17 - but her name was Bergitte - her father was Jørgen Aadnesen and her mother was Torbjør Ormsdatter. Jørgen was according to the 1801 census born in 1776 and Torbjør in 1773.
Thorbiør was born Febr 21 and baptized Febr 28, see the fourth on in 1773 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-4
her father was Orm Eigilson and the mother was Birgith Ketilsdotter.
You will find Jørgen as the 7th from the top on the right side here http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-14
He was born March 9 1776, baptized March 20 and his father was Aadne Jørgensen and the mother Todne Olsdatter.
Look!! one of the most interesting and beautiful marriage records I have seen - http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8009&idx_id=8009&uid=ny&idx_side=-59 - right side second from the bottom of the page
25 Februarii i Molands Præstegaard Tro-lowede den unge og ledige Personen Aadne Jørgenson Midgaarden og Thodne Oles Dott. Lillestue.
Co****rede derefter d. 30 Junij af Hans Mi. Abel. (**** should be pul and then an e)
Cautionister vare
Aadne Oleson Winsnæs
Knud Saaveson Berge


Thank you for all of this. I found her death last night and the names of her father and mother with the help of Hopkins but I couldn't find all of the other info. Thank you so much.
I have been trying to find her husband Ole Knudsen born 1804, I think Tromoy? Aust-Agder but he is more difficult.
Thank you again,
Renee

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