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MR
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 Posted - 09/08/2007 : 12:04:20
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Hello,
Beeing a Polish sailor I visit by my boat HOORN coast of Norway to the very north but Rogaland as well. I consider it the most beutiful places of the world. Haaheller farm in Lysenfjord is a place which impressed me deeply. I consiedered it as deep contrast between our so well organised world an life and this place I try to image of living in. Almost every season I am there and think about the place, farm and specially people who lived in so severe environment.
Farm is abandoned and I got infrmation that three brothers lived there but they lef many year ago. Would you be so kind and provide me with information about it all.Who were they, what were their names, when it happened, what was their job apart of sheeping etc.
All kinds of information will be appreciated.
Best regards Maciej Roszkowski Warsaw Poland
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/08/2007 : 14:21:19
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Haaheller/Håheller in Lysefjorden in Rogaland, an earler cotters place, has been restored.
The people who lived there emigrated to USA and the farm was abandoned.
Source: Migrasjonsprosjektet i Rogaland.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2007 : 20:19:49
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| Use Google Haaheller or Håheller (English pages) quite a bit of info there! |
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MR
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Posted - 12/08/2007 : 20:34:04
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Thanks a lot. It's hard to believe that something in this place has been restored. Building is ruined more and more. Some objects prove that somebody is living temporarily but nobody cares.
Following sugstions of somebody from Rogalnd authorities I wrote to Emigration Museum in Stavanger
Best Regards MR |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2007 : 21:39:48
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Sorry, my information wasn´t correct, I misunderstood the document.
You are right about Haaheller now is a ruin and not restored.
Migrasonsprosjekted /The Migration project in Rogaland is trying to get support from the Department, Rogaland County and the surrounding municipalities to restore several abandoned cotter places, as Haaheller, from where the people emigrated to USA.
Visiting Lysefjord I can recommend to visit Prekestolen: Pulpit Rock
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/08/2007 22:29:05 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/08/2007 : 13:59:00
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| I am an American born descendant of earlier residents on the Haaheller/Håheller farm in Lysefjorden. I have access to much of the Håheller history which was published in "Forsandboka. Gards- og ættesoge", 4 volumes by Sigleif Engen. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/08/2007 : 16:11:05
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Interesting Hoplins - My ancestors in Håheller starts with Ingeborg Ljødesdatter who came from Nerabø to Håheller in 1709 when she married Tore Halvarson and only 4 years later she married Rasmus Olson and had 8 children with him. Their eldest daughter Kari got married to Eilev Eilevson and came to Lyse.
Eilev had been married the first time with Siri Taraldsdatter and had 3 children with her.The youngest one Rasmus is my g-g-g-grandfather (if I have counted right). |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/08/2007 : 18:04:07
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Einar,
We then share a few common ancestors. I too am descended from Ingeborg Ljødesdatter and her husband Rasmus Olson through their youngest daughter Eli Rasmusdtr. Eli married Kristoffer Ivarson of Lyse.
Let me try to diagram in a style that mixes a little Norwegian and English -
(Me ) < Far < Mor < Mor < Far < Mor < Far < Mor < Mor (Ingeborg Ljødesdatter) |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 09:34:22
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A very rare name, Haaheller/Håheller.
Is the name coming from Håkjærring or Hå, the worlds largest shark Basking shark living in the deep fjord Lysefjord and the name Heller which means a flat slab of rock or more likely a "cave" (I don´t have an English word for heller) made by the steep mountain bending out where houses could be build in connection to this "heller" well protected from rain, land slides and avelanges?
Or is it another explonation of the name?
Einar and Hopkins, you are likely familiare with this family tree, but just in case, this must be your Rasmus Olsen Haaheller
Here is todays Haaheller, a small "help your self" cabin where tourists might make your food and spend the night. in the background you can see the "heller" which gave name to the farm.
Kåre
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eibache
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 10:10:19
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Kåre, - it is the Rasmus Olsen in our trees.
The proper translation of "heller" is overhang or overhanging rock. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 10:28:59
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Thanks Einar,
Overhanging rock is a proper word for heller (my English dictionary has an temorary error), but is the name Hå coming from Hå/Håkjerring?
The farm is placed close to the fjord across Prekestolen like an oasis surronded by a steep mountain. |
Edited by - Kåarto on 14/08/2007 10:47:13 |
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MR
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 18:52:23
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I was at Haaheller last June. Farm consist on big house. Windows and doors ar partly destroyed. It was heated by two big open fireplaces going trough second floor. There was no electricity. On a second floor parted wooden weaving machine, beds, tables , chirs etc. It looks all like abandoned some (maybe several )years ago. Somebody spent here some nights, blankt is rotten but not elder then one season.
Second small building is a stock of agricut. machines even wreck of small tractor. Whole area is secured by a 1,5 m high and about 120 m of lenght built on stones. Thousand ad thousand of stones. What huge deal of work have to be done. Previous building built on wooden logs like sheperds hut look like ruined hundred years ago, completely rotten. Pod of half wild sheep pastures there every summer. I was told it is takien back to regula farm at autumn. Small waterfall falls to man made pond and it is a source of fresh water. (excellent taste but to cold to take a shower). Small concrete pier allows to stay by boat.
I got some interesting informations of a deep past but don't know what was goin on in his place last let's say twenty, thirty years. It looks it was habitated. Some photos soon
MR
PS. Forgive me my English |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 19:34:05
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Maciej,
I find your description of the modern status very interesting. Thank you for that.
I've studied the location of the old farm on good detail maps and looked at a few older photos in a published history book of the area and just a few online. I'd like to see it for myself someday. |
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MR
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 21:57:16
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Hopkins,
I tried to found detailed plan of the farm on C-map from my boat and maps.google. No succes. Program Google Earth shows almost every detail of seashore but sharpness is not satysfying. It's strange becasuse the same program shows my home, grass and even my car parked along the street.
Would you be so kind and provide me with information you will find? Still I am interested who were the people living there whole year. My trips are for geting to know people, their profession, way of life in , thoughts etc.
Best Regards MR
PS Haaheller is not so close to Prekestolen which is in 1/3 of Lysenfjord. H. is about 2Nm to Lysebotn, end of Fjord. It is also beautiful place with small campig for parachutist who jump down from Kjerag Mountain and landed on a very small grass on a seashore. It's dangerous and only people who had at least 500 jumps are allowed to do it.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 22:49:12
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The best topographical map of the area around Håheller that I have found is published by Statens Kartvert (N-3500 Hønefoss, Norway). "Topografisk Hovedkartseries - M711 Blad 1313III Lyngsvatnet". I bought my copy from a US source but they are published in Norway and available there. But even that map does NOT provide the level of detail of those Google images where I too can see my car parked in front of my house and the tree outside the kitchen window -- I like it anyway.
The published history books for the Lysefjorden area are entitled "Forsandboka" by Sigleif Engen. The Håheller farm history is included in Volume 1 part 1 of that series of books. Forsandboka: Gards og Ættesoge - Band I - Del I (published in 1981), pages 516-533. I'm sure you'll be able to find a Norwegian library where you might be able to look at that book during your next trip.
I live in the US and unable to tell you which Norwegian library that might be.
The last name that I see mentioned on Håheller in the published history is Trygve Fylgjesdal (1905-?). But I'm no expert at reading Norwegian and might be mistaken.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 23:57:04
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Try this map, Click here, write Håheller, press søk and watch Haaheller by changing to satelite.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/08/2007 23:57:45 |
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