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NIBO
Starting member

Sweden
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Posted - 22/08/2007 :  00:54:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got two sisters using the ship Rollo to emigrate to US...

MARIA PERSDOTTER
Born 1859 Oct 28 in Sunne, Sweden
Went to Hull from Kristiania in february 1889, and then further on to Chicago.

ANNA PERSDOTTER
Born 1867 Dec 22 in Sunne, Sweden
Went to Hull from Gothemburg in february 1893, and then further on to Chicago - to her sister?

Can anyone please help med find these girls in US?


Thanks for helping me out!

Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
868 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  04:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi On Ellis Island there is Anna Petterson arriving Feb 27, 1893 age 25 Last Place of Residence: Gothenberg. Arriving on the ship Etruria. Possibly your Anna and she lists her destination as Michigan which could be a town/city or the state. There is a Michigan City Indiana which is not far from Chicago.
Carla
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tlwright65
Senior member

USA
433 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  20:51:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Were either of them married at the time of emigration?

Tami
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NIBO
Starting member

Sweden
11 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  21:04:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brining!

Seems to be the right girl but you never know. I guess we need to find more in Michigan or wherever she moved!

Neither of them were married when they went or when their father died back in Sweden 1899!!

Thanks for helping me out!
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  21:15:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the emigranter list for Maria Person, leaving Oslo on February 15, 1889 on the Rollo. There are quite a few possible connections for this ship, but one thing I noticed when looking at the possible ships, is that at that time, most ships were sailing from Liverpool or Southhampton to the US in about 6 days, so that should limit the search.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=77881&merk=77881#ovre

Wanda

Lislcat
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  21:20:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If someone has the World Deluxe Subscription to Ancestry, they might have an easier time searching through the Swedish Immigration list.

Wanda

Lislcat
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NIBO
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Sweden
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Posted - 22/08/2007 :  21:38:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Wanda!

That's about all we know; the ship (Rollo) and where she went (Chicago)...but then? We do not know the name of the ship from England though!

Are there any passengerlists saved from the ships between England and America?

Thanks for helping me out!
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  22:13:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ellisisland.org has lots of ship's passenger lists for the ships that came through Ellis Island. That's where Anna was located.

The reason I listed the emigranter's list, is so that people could see the exact date in February that she left Oslo and also that they didn't have her listed as Maria Persdotter, but as Marit Person. Then you can look at the ships leaving London/Liverpool/Southhampton a couple of days after that and cross check that with the ships listed on this site. I didn't find her on the Castlegarden.org site, but that doesn't mean she's not there. Her name could be listed wrong.

I will check with the possible ships leaving England after February 16, 1889 and see how many there are.

Wanda

Lislcat
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  22:32:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the link on this site for the possible connections for the Rollo that sailed on February 15, 1889 from Christiania. http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=2486

You would only probably need to look at the ships that arrived before February 26th, possibly longer, if the ships were really averaging 6 days to cross the Atlantic.

Here's a link to the Swedish American Historical Society http://www.swedishamericanhist.org/sweden_web_links.html
There might be something on there that can help you.
Good luck, Wanda

Lislcat
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tlwright65
Senior member

USA
433 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2007 :  23:56:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello. According to the Emibas Migration Files, it lists the following:

Maria Persdotter, Piga, b 28 Oct 1859 in Sunne, emigrated 31 Dec 1888

Anna Persdotter, Hemmansägardotter (woman) b 22 Dec 1867 in Sunne, emigrated 3 Jan 1893.

What is Hemmansägardotter besides woman....is she married or single?

Tami
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2007 :  02:14:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hemman means "homestead" and dotter means "daughter", but what the middle of the word means, I don't know.

Lislcat
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tlwright65
Senior member

USA
433 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2007 :  02:26:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, it sounds like it doesn't have anything to do with married or single then. Thanks, Wanda. I was looking online for a good Swedish/English dictionary to see it! So, still looking.

Tami
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2007 :  06:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hemmansägardotter - means "homestead owners daughter".

Einar
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2007 :  17:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Einar,

I had most of it right.

It still doesn't get us any closer to finding these two.

Wanda

Lislcat
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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2007 :  18:18:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the Illinois marriages for Maria Person and Anna Person. The index only goes until 1900, but since we can't find them in the 1900 census under their names, they must have married.

Maria Person
Aronson, Axel Person, Maria Christina 11/13/1900 Cook County
Nelson, John Alfred Person, Maria Christina 10/06/1900 Cook County


Anna Person
Hoglund, Olof Larson Person, Anna 11/05/1892 Winnebago County
Monson, Olof Person, Anna 09/28/1892 Cook County
Olson, Carl Person, Anna 10/02/1897 Tazewell County
Peterson, Edward Person, Anna 08/22/1894 Cook County
Bohman, Alfred J. Person, Anna M. 09/23/1897 Rock Island County
Nelson, Nels Person, Anna Mathilda 02/22/1896 Cook County

Cook County is the county that Chicago is in, so that might be a good place to start.

Wanda

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Lislcat
Advanced member

USA
690 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2007 :  18:28:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maria's last name is not Aronson, her birthdate doesn't match up with the Illinois Death certificate for Maria Aronson.

Wanda

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