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Kåarto
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 Posted - 29/10/2009 : 23:37:39
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Hi John.
Edward Ericksen b June 9. 1867 and Andrea Ericksdatter b Jan. 29. 1866, siblings, born to Andreas Ericsen and Berthe Karine Halvorsdatter were from Sør Aurdal municipalty in Valdres, a district consisting of six municipalities in Oppland County.
Helena Johannesdatter born Mai 20. 1867 to Johannes Haagensen and Karen Olsdatter was from Nes municipality, Hedmark County
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John Foley
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 13:39:11
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hi,Kåre
That is marvellous, we can honour the dead with the dignity of a name.
To continue “The what happened to them then” Hannah Parr saga, Admiral Kerr’s niece married a local man 4th Earl of Dunraven Adare County Limerick and the yachting theme goes on, his two daughters, Rachel (1872-1901) and Aileen (1873-1962) caused quite a stir in New York society when they accompanied their father to the United States where he competed in the Americas cup (yacht Valkyrie.)
They in turn married into local families and the decendants are still here in the Limerick Clare area.
The other local man who made quite a mark in yachting circles during this period was Lt. William “Paddy” Henn R.N. of Paradise on the North bank of the River Shannon, Paddy Henns wife was a Scottish lady, Susan Bartholomew who became the first woman to compete in the Americas cup.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/12/2009 : 13:13:54
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Hello John.
The Norwegian text at the bottom of your page refers to the 5 verse of Norway´s national anthem that begins with "Hårde tider har vi døyet"
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John Foley
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Posted - 13/12/2009 : 20:56:03
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Hi, Kåre,
The text was suggested by descendants of the “Hannah Parr” passengers, as suitable for inclusion on the 400mm approx. circular Norwegian granite plaque with its bronze insert.
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John Foley
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Posted - 17/12/2009 : 21:48:51
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Norway Ireland events are posted on the link below and have the requested images of present day Limerick locations frequented by the Hannah Parr visitors,links to the ongoing Norway Ireland events. The map of the Hannah Parr Limerick locations can also be viewed here.
http://shipwrights-shipwrights.blogspot.com/
As are the requested Mary Wollstonecraft letters recounting meetings with Norwegian sea captains, drinking habits, fish, food, isolated pilots and their families, Inn keepers, smuggled items of furniture also the Norwegian reaction to the French revolution and the then subordinate legislative status of Norway and Ireland.
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Borge
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Posted - 17/01/2010 : 21:08:14
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I have just uploaded a new account relating to the Hannah Parr emigrants and their stay in Limerick. It is an anonymous woman’s voyage account published in Morgenbladet 11 June 1868. It was found by Trond Austheim during a search for emigrant ship news stories for Norway Heritage some time back. I mailed the clipping facsimiles Clair O. Haugen who have translated them. I was going to post the new account in December but I have been away for a few moths. I also found a picture to go with the article, showing the Shannon with the Limerick harbor area seen from the tower of the Limerick Cathedral as it must have looked about the time when the Hannah Parr people stayed there.
See the article here:
Hannah Parr anonymous woman’s voyage account 1868
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John Foley
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Posted - 23/01/2010 : 02:31:41
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The following may shed some light on the mindset and motivation of the Limerick 1868 Hannah Parr support group, who organized the Castleconnell and Mount Shannon day trips. Republican sentiment was widespread in a changing Europe and Ireland was no exception, one Castleconnell seasonal resident, during the year 1868, was American born banker and philanthropist George Peabody (1795-1869) a keen fisherman he took an interest in local events, never a great public speaker, he invited villagers to events at his leased estate remarkably similar to the Hannah Parr outing, It is recorded he spoke movingly of his own childhood and humble beginnings, the value of education and opportunities available in America.
Within 3 weeks of the safe departure of the Hannah Parr, George Peabody was joined in Limerick by reforming English parliamentarian John Bright M.P. (1811-1889,) business in the House of Commons delaying his arrival until the 8th of July 1868. John Bright admired the American system of government, held in check by a written constitution. Bright had a popular following in Ireland, where his part in the successful repeal of the Corn Laws, with its Irish Famine dimension,found favor and attracted admirers of change. Bright also spoke of Ireland, the inequity and inevitable disastrous consequences of a state established minority church used as a remote arm of government.
One of John Bright’s Irish admirers, who waited patiently to meet the parliamentarian while in Limerick, was a young journalist, Thomas Power O'Connor (1848-1929) a Nationalist and later a Member of Parliament. O'Connor, married Elizabeth Pascal, (ca.1850-1931) a Texas (Austin) born writer, who also had her Walt Whitman stories. Bright, was a supporter of the Union during the American Civil War; his well received speeches were a significant element in calming the fear of out of work British mill workers starved of cotton, he helped define British working class opinion and countered the influence of a pro secessionist London press. As a member of the Society of Friends (Quakers), John Bright commented on Bleeding Kansas and the Harper's Ferry incident, he corresponded with and would later meet London born Col. Richard Josiah Hinton. (1830-1901) The 1860 John Brown homage by Redpath and Hinton, and young Boston publishers Thayer and Eldridge, who seemed to write and print by day while organizing anti slavery protest meetings at night. Redpath and Hinton, who stood their ground in Boston in the aftermath of Harper's Ferry raid, were helped on this side of the Atlantic by printer and publisher Richard Davis Webb, who would play a part in publicly justifying the actions of John Brown. Webb with his transatlantic and Boston connections relied on material collected by Redpath and Hinton for the James Redpaths (Thayer and Eldridge published) homage to John Brown. Richard Davis Webb published "The life of Captain John Brown" Dublin and London 1860-61. that included Richard J. Hinton's admiring commentary on John Brown. John Bright used the abolitionist agenda to shape partly enfranchised British working class attitudes during the American civil war; humans in slavery as a tradeable commodity was ideologically indefensible and corrosive in an expanding United States. Kansas, being one of the early flash point aspiring states, of possible interest is communication between personalities particularly around the Lincoln era. Eradication of slavery in the American republic was used by Bright at public meetings and in the British House of Commons. Conscious of the risk of Britain declaring for the confederate side, his skillful use of this logic transformed British working class sentiment and aroused a sense of fair play. Bright with Peabody's moral and perhaps financial support, both were fearful of the Royal Navy's ability to provoke an incident as a prelude to blockade and intervention "the Bursting of the Bubble Republic" Bright clinically unpicked and stamped out pro-Confederate sentiment in the British House of Commons debates, and managed to counter the anti union bias of the London Press, dominated by battle dispatches fed by pro confederate Mr Routers. Brights steadying influence during the Trent affair with George Peabody's support for the union was important as Bright continued to shape popular British Anti Slavery perception of the war. Bright maintained a steady correspondence with the Lincoln administration through Charles Sumner (1811 -1874) another abolitionist. Our perception of President Lincoln may have much to do with press savvy abolitionists, Hinton who penned the popular and first full length campaign biography of Lincoln, Boston (Thayer & Eldridge) continued to push internationalism and acceptance of people of merit regardless of origin, orientation (see his defense of Whitman) and color. Richard J. Hinton and his wife, Isabella, were residents of the Bay Ridge area of New York which was then and still is proud of its Norwegian connections. The following account may be of interest as this meeting occurred in Springfield within hours of President elect Abraham Lincolns ratification by the electoral college and gives a glimpse of his personality as recorded by Hinton, who would have further involvement as an agent, sent south by President Lincoln, the spelling is as written and published:
AN INTERVIEW WITH ABRAHAM LINCOLN
CONCERNING A RECOGNITION OF HAITI
BY CAPTAIN R.J. HINTON U.S.C.T
The republic of Haiti, in the autumn of 1860, organized here a bureau for the encouragement of emigration to that country. Its work lay, of course, among the colored American population. Mr. James Redpath , of Malden, Mass., (“Berwick” of the N.Y. Tribune) Now editor of the Mercury and superintendent of public schools in Charleston, South Carolina, was placed in charge as general agent for the Hyation government. Part of the work designed by this bureau was the agitation of the Haytian republic by this government. Like Liberia, the Negro nationality of the Antilles was not especially esteemed by us as worthy a place among the commonalities of the earth. President Fabre Geffrard and his advisers believed that an administration on the basis of resistance to (not abolition of) would consider respectfully the claims of a people, who, almost alone in that respect in the history of the human race, unaided, had fought their way from the direst slavery to an independent nationality, against odds such as few people have resisted successfully.
Having being associated with Mr. Redpath in other anti-slavery efforts, at his request, I acted as special agent of the movement, and in that capacity made a tour through many of the Northern States. During the trip, the leading Republican papers published favorable articles upon the movement. Interviews were had with Governor Chase and others, the now Chief Justice expressed himself most decidedly in favour of recognition. On my arrival in Chicago Mr Joseph Medill , of the Chicago Tribune urged the propriety of visiting Springfield for the purpose of seeing Mr. Lincoln, and offered me letters of introduction. It had been deemed best not to bring the matter before the President elect. Embarrassments and responsibilities were crowding upon him daily, each hour providing their grave and momentous character. Mr. Chase, as well as other gentlemen, suggested that Mr. Lincoln be left to carry out the expression of public sentiment on this and kindred subjects. Mr. Medill, however, urged my going so strenuously, that I accepted the letters and took the night train, arriving in the capital city of Illinois on the morning of the day upon which the Electoral College was to meet and cast its presidential vote.
At about 10 o’clock a.m., I went to the capitol building, and was shortly after announced at the door of the Governor’s room, an apartment which had been appropriated by Gov. Wood for Mr. Lincolns use; an accommodation of great value, considering the number and variety of callers who were daily demanding the attention of the newly-elected magistrate.
As I entered the room, a tall, spare form, with a strongly-marked but shrewd and pleasant countenance, rose from an armchair, near the window and welcomed me cordially. I was struck then with the transparent simplicity and heartiness of Mr. Lincoln's manner, for I recognized him immediately having had the pleasure of listening to his remarkable oration in the Cooper Institute nearly a year before. The apartment was rather dingy and quite poorly furnished, the most remarkable thing in it being an axe, a log chain and some rails arranged on one side of the room. When I entered Mr. Lincoln was listening placidly and patiently to the tiresome compliments of a farmer, who had come in to see “the rail splitter” as he loudly affirmed. In a few moments Mr. Lincoln turned to me, and, after reading my letter, asked in what manner he could serve me. I requested a few moments of his time to lay before him statements relative to the position, condition and hopes of the Haytian Republic. Without hesitation 4 o’clock was named for the interview.
At the appointed time I went to the Capitol and found Mr. Lincoln was at dinner with members of the electoral college. Somewhat disappointed, I determined to remain until the night train and call at the Presidents house. At about seven o’clock, on my road to his residence, I met Mr. Lincoln coming from the post-office with his arms full of papers and letters. In fact, it being a misty, dark night, in crossing the street I ran against him, before recognition. Apologizing, I told him of the liberty I was about to take in calling, and expressing my unwillingness to leave until I had seen him on the subject matter of my communication. I remember his very pleasant and cheery manner in apologizing for not seeing me at the time appointed, giving me a reason the congratulations of the electors. “That sort of thing has to be gone through with” he said. Of the sitting room of the modest residence my memory still retains the cheerful home-like refined appearance it presented. Pictures, books, etc., were in abundance and the apartment gave the appearance of belonging to a busy man of intellect. Mr. Lincoln seated himself and waited for what might be said. Telling him that if he allowed me to proceed undisturbed, I would take but a short time to lay before him the feelings, purposes and objects of the Haytian government, what was meant by the emigration movement in connection therewith and the plans by which its agents intended to agitate the matter of recognition, he said very simply and patiently “Go ahead” and listening to what I had to say undisturbed, asked only one question-as to whether I had been to Hayti myself. Answering in the negative, I availed myself of this opening to present papers, statistics etc., furnished by the Hytian government and bureau, which at least satisfied Mr. Lincoln I knew whereof I was speaking. Concluding with a statement that the friends of the movement did not expect that he would not express any opinion or intimate any course of action on the subject of recognizing the Negro republics and thanking him for the courtesy with which he had heard my statements and argument, I rose to leave. Mr Lincoln motioned me to resume my seat and commenced a series of question, which continued for nearly three quarters of an hour which without committing him specially to any policy resulted in his possession and sifting of all the knowledge I had on the matter and collateral topics on which we were talking. I remember without recollection of the words, very distinctly the impression made on me by the Presidents questions and remarks,
First: There was a desire to avoid a public discussion of the question of recognizing Negro governments while the uncertain but –most alarming- state of affairs existed with the Southern States. He was assured of the earnest desire of all concerned in the Haytian movement not to embarrass his administration by any hasty action, while it was stated that the question would ultimately be raised and must be met.
Secondly: I was convinced that Mr. Lincoln recognized fully the meanness of non-recognition and the equity of the claim presented by the Haytian Republic. In this connection he was somewhat surprised by the statistics presented to him showing the value and extent of our commercial relations with Haytian ports. The fact is now familiar to most readers of the current press that the trade between the Negro Republic of Hayti and the United States, at the time, was larger and of more value than all the Central American Republics or with all the German States excepting Prussia, Austria and one or two of the free cities. I believe, larger too than the whole of Italy. At the time of which I write (1860) very few, except those connected with the Haytian trade and some anti-slavery zealots, were aware of this, Mr. Lincoln was not I am sure.
He subjected the statements made to him to a severe cross examination. In this connection I remember him expressing himself satisfied of the correctness of a policy which President Fabre Geffrard of Hayti was determined to adopt. This was to ultimately to close his ports to vessels belonging to the United States, as (it) being the only nation which refused to recognise the national existence of the people over whom he ruled. In this connection I remember very distinctly a remark of Mr. Lincoln which showed how little the prejudice against color affected his own conclusions, it is more distinct in my memory because other Republican statesmen, to whom the same view was presented, expressed a different conclusion from that given by Mr. Lincoln. In the arguments made on behalf of the recognition of Hayti, I suggested as a matter of policy, that President Geffrard would send, in the event of recognition, as a representative of the republic at Washington some one of the educated men of mixed blood of whom there were many who would pass muster for Creole or Spanish American whites. In short Hayti would send a representative as near like a white man as she could find among her worthy citizens. Mr. Lincoln remarked in an animated manner “I don’t see the necessity for that, an educated black man would be as dignified, I have no doubt, as a ginger colored one” I had presented the same suggestion to others who were at that hour considered as able and more radical than was Abraham Lincoln. His manner assured me that the question of receiving a black man as a diplomat would not at all affect his conduct and aroused no special prejudice in his mind.
Third, I found Mr. Lincoln decidedly in favour of a separation of the races, provided as he himself expressed it, -“it could be about fairly and voluntarily”-He heartily endorsed the emigration project then being inaugurated and suggested that we confine our exertions, for the time being, to that purpose. I was very much pleased, as may readily be supposed, with the courtesy and attention awarded me by Mr. Lincoln which was agreeably contrasted with the hauteur of some prominent men with whom I had before come in contact on the same subject.
I have thrown these items into shape, hoping they may be worthy a place in the many more reminiscences of Mr. Lincoln which are being daily published. The question to which they relate is perhaps of sufficient historic importance to warrant the publication of the notes preserved by so humble a person as myself.
Captain Richard J. Hinton
The “Accidental” bumping into Abraham Lincoln by politically aware Hinton may seem a tad contrived as he was alert to the sensitivity of his own position when he decided to meet the President elect. Hinton was active in the Kansas of 1856 onward, helped in the anti-slavery struggle and was one of the writers and fighters of the Civil war; which effectively involved journalists with guns. Hinton must have impressed Lincoln as he was soon sent south on Lincolns direction "intelligence gathering" this episode in Hinton's career was alluded to by the New York Sun in its 1901 admiring obituary of Hinton. Hinton later travelled through the south in the character of an English sympathiser, made friends with southern officers, saw Jefferson Davis inaugurated President of the Confederacy and took drawings of many forts and cannons, but was finally caught at Richmond. He escaped through the assistance of a Negro. He looked the part he had lived -ruddy and upright, with long grey beard and sweeping hair, and decision marked in his clear eyes and heavy arched eyebrows- (New York Sun, December 1901)
Hinton, who took an active part in the founding of the Republican Party, recruited for and served with Kansas "Colored" Regiments and was later inspector of the freedman's bureau. Hinton was appointed commissioner of immigration in Europe, 1867 (KHS) and later wrote on the educational system of Sweden and Norway. During the lead up to the 1860 elections he with Thayer & Eldridge rushed to press with the campaign biography of resolute abolitionist, William H. Seward. The outcome of May 18th Chicago convention wrong footed the group when it settled on the compromise and less controversial Abraham Lincoln, Hinton immediately set to work producing the first full length biography of the future Presidents life just days after the launch of the Seward volume and ten days after the future president’s nomination. He had previously introduced his friend Walt Whitman to Thayer & Eldridge and dangerous Boston see 1860 Boston edition of "Leaves of Grass" some of the engravings show a somewhat rushed freehand theme remarkably similar to Hinton’s brother Louis and later his nephew Charles floral tracery, perhaps Hinton took the opportunity to practice his old craft. A twin launch of the Whitman volume and the Presidential candidate’s bio was planned, though not achieved, for the same day 1st. May 1860.
A photograph of John Bright and understandably, Andrew Jackson, hung in the White Office of President Lincoln, a Horace Greeley published press cutting of Brights support of President Lincolns re-election was on Lincolns person the evening of his assassination.
After the civil war Hinton was active as a Federal employee in Europe where he interviewed John Bright, Hinton later published an account of this meeting as "At Home With John Bright".
When in 1868 John Bright M.P. joined George Peabody in Limerick, the hastily formed welcoming committee at the rail terminus reads like the cast list of the Hannah Parr support group, it included two local members of parliament Major Gavin, William Monsell. with M.R. Ryan (the Norwegian Vice consul,) Stephen De Vere (local emigrant rights hero) and the historian and newspaperman, Maurice Lenihan, who reported on the plight of the Hannah Parr passengers. The welcoming city came to a standstill with the John Bright look west speeches reported in full in the Lenihan and Counihan papers, an abridged and grudging version of the pro American speech appearing in a later edition of the Chronicle newspaper. Within months John Bright and William Monsell were members of Gladstone's cabinet leading to Church disestablishment in Ireland1869. At the tail end of the Peabody, Castleconnell fishing trip, John Bright went as guest of the Goodbody family to Clara County Offaly then known as Kings County, visiting the small Quaker community of the Kildare, Offaly (then Kings County) area, his brass reading lamp given as a keepsake is treasured locally.
The following may be of interest to Hannah Parr’ites, three members of the Maunsell family are listed as subscribers to the Norwegian emigrant fund; members of the Maunsell clan also left Ireland during this time, some to New Zealand and Australia, others America. One, Robert Charles Maunsell (1832-1912) with his wife Isabella Hanks (1841-1912) and children followed the American dream. Isabella’s relatives were the Alexander’s and Jacobs listed as part of the 1868 Hannah Parr support group by Clair Haugen. The Maunsell and Hanks families were not stereotypical Irish emigrants, both lived for many generations in the same area of Ireland; neither could plead hunger, social exclusion or lack of connections as a reason to leave when they settled in Chicago. Early and continuous connections with America by what are called Scotch-Irish can be seen in the 86 interrelated witnesses to the marriage of Jeremiah Hanks, Isabella's grandfather. Early English, Irish and American protestant dissenters are well represented with close Hanks links with the Quaker Jackson family;
Isabella divorced Robert Maunsell (1878) using Chicago based civil war soldier turned lawyer, Captain William Perkins Black (1842-1916) Black would later represent the Chicago Haymarket defendants. Isabella like many emigrants lived in exciting times; she raised her children and wrote on a number of issues including her friendship with Clara Barton of the American Red Cross. Isabella met and married the above mentioned Colonel Richard Josiah Hinton (1830 -1901) A sketch of Isabella around the time of her marriage to Hinton by another member of the Hinton family shows an attractive and alert woman. Isabella was involved in workers and women’s rights politics.
Hinton, like his brother, Louis J. Hinton trained as a carver in wood and stone in London. Louis is perhaps best known in America for his work on the cathedral of all saints Albany and the Albany Town Hall staircase with its figures of Walt Whitman, President Lincoln and other noteworthy Americans. Louis Hinton's son Charles Hinton, also a sculptor of talent, worked on this and other Lincoln related projects. A bust of Richard J Hinton presented to the Kansas Historical Society by Isabella (Hanks) Hinton (1904) is the work of one or the other Hinton, hopefully it is still there.
The widely read and popular book [Richard J.Hinton] The Life and Public Service of Hon. Abraham Lincoln, of Illinois and Hon. Hannibal Hamlin of Maine (Boston: Thayer and Eldridge , 1860. Was reasonably priced at 25c and ran to a number of editions. If Hinton was to be of any benefit to Lincoln, he with good reason did not associate his name with the publication, the congressional investigation into Harper's Ferry was then under way, one of Browns supporters was mistaken for Hinton and hanged, Albert Hazlett, (1837 -1860) aka as "William Harrison" and "Richard Hill" code names used by Hinton. Harrison was used when communicating with John Brown and his group and unfortunately also used by Hazlett when questioned. Correspondence above the Harrison signature addressed to John Henri Kazi, was found when troops overran Harper's Ferry. The month after the arsenal raid, Hazlett made his way to Pennsylvania where the 23 year olds luck ran out, arrested near Carlisle he was extradited tried and executed as "William Harrison Alias Albert Hazilett” his identity never properly established.
A chance meeting (1867) between Col. Richard J. Hinton and ex Gov. Henry Alexander Wise (1806–1876) where he was introduced as the real "William Harrison" Hinton may have felt the pre war ambassador, confederate officer and pro-slavery lawyer needed reminding of the merits of due process, Wise had as Governor offered rewards of $1,000 per head for participants in the Harper's Ferry Raid, not already in custody. During a time when Hinton was busy as an abolitionist and later May 1860 writing Presidential hopeful, Abraham Lincoln’s first full length biography. Wise on meeting Hinton, who mustered out of a Kansas Colored Regiment,and the first commissioned officer to recruit Americans who happened to be black, retorted he would gladly have paid $5000 for his (Hinton's) capture."
(A $1000 bounty was paid following the arrest of Albert Hazlett)
Col Richard Josiah Hinton finally acknowledged authorship of the Lincoln bio in
“Pens that made Kansas Free" Transactions of the Kansas State Historical Society 6 (1897-1900)
And C. Caroll Hollis, "R.J. Hinton: Lincolns Reluctant Biographer" Centennial Review 5 (Winter 1961):65-84
After the War Hinton held several politically-appointed positions within the federal government and resumed his career in journalism and writing. Hinton acknowledges Isabella insight and steadfastness in a biography of his friend English born civil war poet Richard Realf (1832 - 1878) among Real's early supporters was the aunt of Irish Nationalist leader, Charles Stewart Parnell, (grandson of American naval Hero, Charles Stewart 1778 – 1869) and abolitionist, Lady Byron, wife of Lord Byron. Richard Realf published his first book of poetry with financial support and encouragement from this source. During 1894 Hinton published "John Brown and his Men and some of the roads etc." Hinton and Isabella remained politically active she was involved with women's issues and assisted her husband in his activities. As an activist she was elected Vice President of the Progressive Labor Party, New York September 1887.
The accomplished T. W. (Thomas William) Rolleston (1857-1920) Shinrone County Offaly Irish Nationalist, and poet, corresponded with Walt Whitman and helped introduce Whitman's poetry to a German readership. Rolleston was kinsman of Isabella, her eldest son being Charles Rolleston Maunsell, later of Topeka, Kansas. The Irish Rolleston and Maunsell families lived at Clonlisk and Glasshouse County Offaly then Kings County Ireland
Another Hannah Parr connection of interest is T.W. Rolleston, was a founder member of the London based, Irish Literary Society with William Butler Yeats and Charles Gavin Duffy. This society was later joined by Alfred Perceval Graves (1846 - 1931) a son of the “Hannah Parr” supportive Bishop Graves of Limerick, Alfred was father of the poet Robert Graves.
Hinton’s friendship with Walt Whitman continued, during the civil war as Whitman tended the wounded in the hospitals of Washington he again met Hinton.
"When this old heathen came and gave me a pipe and tobacco it was about the most joyous moment of my life, Walt Whitman’s funny stories and his pipes and tobacco were worth more than all the preachers and tracts in Christendom, a wounded soldier doesn’t like to be reminded of his god more than twenty times a day. Walt Whitman didn’t bring any tracts or bibles; he didn’t ask if you loved the lord and didn’t seem to care whether you did or not.”
Richard Hinton, Washington Letters, Cincinnati Commercial, 26 August 1871.
Richard and Isabella's relationship is interesting, the Quaker ethos of Isabella’s family, her social standing and position of relative privilege in Ireland makes her single minded struggles in America intriguing. A woman of her background may have eased acceptance of Col. Richard Hinton, with his bullets and boots reputation, within an interesting circle of friends, all sharing a similar radical non conformist background. In a interview later in her life entitled "Talk by the sea" Isabella mentions Clara Barton, 1821-1912 (American Red Cross) Richard Hinton being a charter member of that group, Susan B Anthony,1820-1906 Elizabeth Casy Stanton, 1815-1902 Lucretta Mott, 1793-1880. and a London based American friend the Texas born playwright ELIZABETH PASCHAL O'CONNOR, (ca. 1850–1931) wife of Irish Nationalist T.P. O Connor politician and Journalist
A word picture of Hinton and Isabella was penned by the talented and tragic Eleanor Marx-Aveling, daughter of Carl Marks who would translate Norwegian playwright Ibsen into English and promote an early London performance of his work. In Ireland much is written about James Joyce and his admiration of Ibsen, less well known is how Eleanor Marks managed to persuade playwright George Bernard Shaw to act in her 1886 production of A DOLLS HOUSE, it had Shaw as Krogstad, and Eleanor Marks as Nora.
Richard Hinton and Isabella visited Ireland during the summer of 1901, Hinton was to die that same year in London (December 1901) his family and friends would later repatriate his remains to the United States, Richard and Isabella are buried in Arlington cemetery.
Isabella's nephew was Samuel Jeremiah Hanks 1887-1973 a farmer and mill owner of Sally Mills, Rathangan County Kildare. Samuel lived and worked for a number of years (1911-1919) at the Maunsell built, Plassey House now the “White House” building University of Limerick. There is some interest of late in early Illinois pioneers and the English settlement of Birkbeck (Wanborough) and Flower (Albion) Illinois. Samuel Hank’s kinsman was Joseph Hanks whose son, Francis married Morris Birkbecks youngest daughter, Prudence (Pru) Birkbeck. The struggles and passions of these early settlers is fascinating with the majority of Birkbecks associates siding with his rival in love, George Flower, resulting in many bitter disagreements which saw the progress of New Albion and the eventual demise and disappearance of Wanborough township Illinois. The Hanks family would have known the Quaker Birkbeck, whose father remarried in the village of Balitore County Kildare Ireland. A highly regarded school in this village was attended by a number of Norwegian sons of ship owning merchants; it was also attended by eminent political commentator and parliamentarian , Edmund Bourke (1729-1797) a supporter of revolutionary America
Francis (Davis?) Hanks husband of Prudence Birkbeck (1800-1832) was a pupil at this school. Pru’s and her sister, Eliza(beth) Birkbeck Pell, the two daughters of the co-founder of the settlement of Wanborough Illinois, Eliza would also opt to leave Illinois and eventually settled in Australia. Francis Hanks and Prudence (Birkbeck) Hanks had three daughters all born at the Illinois Settlement, they returned with Eliza to Europe. The accidental drowning of Morris Birkbeck, who put so much into the early development of Edwards County and the state of Illinois, seems to have exhausted the resolve of his children. Prudence writes of her inability to continue alone and isolated, her correspondence touching the Birkbeck decision, to abandon Illinois for opportunities elsewhere are poignant.
The personalities making up the Hannah Parr committee would also suggest some degree of Utopian and early cooperative support for the Norwegian emigrants.
The Cleng Peerson Sloopers mentioned by Børge and subsequent assistance from Joseph Fellows and John Murray (Kendall Colony) all played some part in the early Norwegians American settlements. Clair Haugens and James Overdahls, Hannah Parr saga has renewed local interest in other personalities including the Welshman Robert Owen who advised on the lower Shannon Ralahine co-operative experiment and was intimately connected with the American New Harmony experiment. The local Hannah Parr tales come from many sources including those employed in the repair of the Norwegian ship. The Carr family were nationalists and trade union activists, a later member of this family was the steam boiler maker James (Joss) Carr, of Harrison Lee, Engineers, Limerick, Joss was Samuel Hanks brother in law and best man at his wedding. Carr was one of the 3 c's leaders of the Limerick workers strike against British militarism (Limerick Workers Strike1919). Another source was Limerick man and merchant navy captain, James Jellico Morris (1846-1890) who served as a Limerick Port officer with the Harbour Authority. James was of the Joshua Morris, Rutland Street establishment, who traded internationally with fellow Quakers, Jacobs, Alexander’s, Journeaux, Harvey and Newsom, all feature in the Haugen Overdahl, Hannah Parr saga.
Joshua's son was tea and wine merchant, James Morris of Limerick, later of Middlesbrough on the east Coast of England, his wife was Susan Matilda Hanks. Typically stubborn Francis Hanks who remained in Illinois, Francis was her first cousin. |
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John Foley
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Posted - 27/10/2010 : 15:51:02
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Map of the City of Limerick c. Hannah Parr stopover. Recent Visitors found the link below to OSI (Ordnance Survey maps) useful and this is how it works:
On the Lower Right Side (Under preview Map Series) are listed a number of options, Street map (Modern) is the default view below is a series of overlay maps dating from the early 1800s to the present day.
The map marked Historic 25" best illustrates the city layout c Hannah Parr period use the compass rose on the upper left side to explore the rest of Limerick city and Ireland. Toggling over and back between 6" Hand coloured early 1800s Maps and intermediate layers is quiet interesting.
The other Google Hannah Parr map Clair Haugen found useful now allows street views which should add to the overall experience.
BTW The post famine overcrowding of Saint Vincent De Paul Boys Orphanage located near the docks on Frederick Street may help explain the street boys episode in Clair Haugen and Jim Overdahl fine piece "The Long Crossing". Local records show all inmates were ejected during the day time and may have found tagging on to the Norwegian passengers filing past its doors a welcome distraction not entirely to Captain Larsen's approval but perhaps understandable.
Link to map
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,556697,656622,7
Link to Google Hannah Parr Street Map and 2010 visitors pics.
http://shipwrights-shipwrights.blogspot.com/
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Edited by - John Foley on 28/10/2010 15:50:30 |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 07:34:05
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John |
Edited by - John Foley on 08/02/2011 20:09:14 |
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David Yaw
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/12/2011 : 11:52:55
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Silverdale Viking Hoard.
British Museum yesterday made announcements about this important treaure trove. The article in yesterday's Times refers to expulsion of Vikings from Dublin, their migration to NW England and clues to King Harthnacnut.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-16178699
Further info by googling Silverdale Viking Hoard. |
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John Foley
Ireland-Norway special member
Ireland
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Posted - 11/03/2012 : 07:56:28
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Hi David,
Great find, the sea travelers seem to take their valuables with them in troubled times, you may also be familiar with a small gold boat on display in Dublin. It hints of contacts with Scandinavia and further afield as it has a larboard in the viking style with other details of rigging and seats all in gold. The piece was crafted C 2000 years ago
I wonder what was going on in Norway during that time, Here is a link to an image of the boat.
http://shipwrights-shipwrights.blogspot.com/ |
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