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MAJA520S
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 03:05:40
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Ole C Baker born: 14 Apr 1846 his obit states born in Tyn Norway. He came to America in 1850 with his parents at abt age 4. He came with 3 sisters and 1 brother. One sister here in the US (His Obit) states her name was Julia. Ole died in 1924 and she was the only survivor mentioned. His obit here in the US states that he was left an Orphan when he was 8 years old after they came to America and at 9 years old he was left to make it in the world on his own. I found him in a 1860 US Census working as a farm hand on a farm. He ended up being a very successful farmer in the area. Could be the other siblings died before he did or they all left the area and never had more contact with each other. Thanks, Jodie
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 03:55:56
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Didn't you have another reference in another posting to "Tyn" in Norway and determine that it probably indicated Tinn, Telemark, Norway?
Have you checked the birth/baptismal records for Tinn for Ole?
You find his parents names from that and reference to what farm they lived on, then you can also search for the names of the other children of the same couple. Sources to consult - the parish records and the Tinn-soga |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 04:13:02
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Listed with a birthdate of 13 April 1846 in Tinn, Telemark on a farm there known as Bakka is the son of Kittel Olsen and Gro Herbjornsdatter. Record #9
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 07:08:14
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If the Ole Kittilsen, Bakka (Ole C(ittilsen) Baker (Bakka) is the one you are researching, his family left Tinn in 1850, see #13 he left with his parents and a younger brother Herbjørn. His parents Kittil Olsen and Gro Herbjørnsdatter were married Febr 22 1846, see #7 and it is not likely that his sisters were born in Norway. Oles father Kittil Olsen was born April 6 1819, see #3 and Kittils parents were Ole Knudsen and Sigri Kittilsdatter. Oles mother Gro Herbjørnsdatter was born Aug 21 1823, see #7 and Gros parents were Herbjørn Olsen and Gunhild Gunleksdatter. Ole Knudsen and Sigrid Kittelsdatter were married Febr 11 1798, see #29 in 1801 they were at Bakken Ole Knudsens father Knud Halvorsen is a widower living with his son. Ole Knudsen was baptized March 21 1773, see #13 his parents were Knud Halvorsen and Gro Olsdatter Wastved. Sigrid Kittelsdatter was baptized Aug 31 1777, see #40 her parents were Kittel (Olsen) Bachen and Asloug Neridsdatter. (See also 1801 census for Bakken)
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Edited by - eibache on 15/05/2008 09:39:38 |
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eibache
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 10:25:07
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Herbjørn Olsen Høiset and Gunhild Gunleiksdatter Grov were married June 30 1810, see bottom of left page
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 15:14:21
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If this is the right family it Looks like Ole C Baker's parents were married about 6 weeks before he was born.
So are these people related to the Sondre Gjermundsen and Margit Østensdatter on Bakka in 1801? How many houses are usually on a farm?
Sondre Gjermonsen Huusbonde 48 Margitte Østensdtr Hans kone 43 Birgitte Gjermonsdtr Deres børn 20 Kari Gjermonsdtr Deres børn 16 Gjermon Gjermonsen Deres børn 14 Østen Gjermonsen Deres børn 11 Aagoth Gjermonsdtr Deres børn 9 Margitte Gjermonsdtr Deres børn 7 Hølje Gjermonsen Deres børn 5 Knud Gunufsen Mand 58 Birgitte Knudsdtr Hans kone 50 Anne Knudsdtr Deres børn 20 Knud Knudsen Deres børn 11 John Hansen Mand 62 Asloug Olsdtr Hans kone 61 Hans Johnssen Deres søn 19
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 16:13:25
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This is two different farms, Bakka was a farm in Attraae parish, Bakken a farm in Hovind parish. On the Bakken farm where Ole came from there were in 1801 four families, the main farm, a smaller farm with the same name Bakken, Eggerue a cottage place under Bakken and Renslaae another cottage place under Bakken. (You can read this from the census) |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/05/2008 : 17:28:10
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You really can't assume such a "leap" for relationship without proving/disproving the linkage step by step. That takes research and work in the parish records and/or a pertinent history of that rural area such as the Tinn-Soga by H.H. Einung.
There is/was no rule of thumb for how many houses or cottages might be attached to any one farm or bruk. You'd have to research and study the history of the farm(s) you are really interested in. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 15/05/2008 17:28:52 |
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