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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 26/05/2008 : 08:56:15
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Petroe Annes father Hans Hansen in 1801 is here
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 26/05/2008 : 09:23:04
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Hans Hansen Ramstad was married Dec 27 1801, see #2
note that Sergiant Sundbye was one of the witnesses.
According to the 1801 census Hans Hansen was then 21 years old.
Olaug Andersdatter was 22 years old in 1801 and her baptismal record is most likely #5
she was a twin, was baptized Febr 14 1779 and her parents were Anders Nielsen and Abelone Larsdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 26/05/2008 10:01:30 |
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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 26/05/2008 : 18:04:59
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There is an emigration record for Anna Sunby, age 28 from Fredriksstad, leaving Krisitiania 29 May 1902, on the SS Hekla for New York, arriving 13 June 1902.
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She could be a sister to Halfdan. Unfortunately I was unable to find her on the ship's manifest. The Ellis Island Data base is not working very good today..
Les
PS: Checked the ship's manifest, there is no Anna Sundby listed.
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sdbousson
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Posted - 27/05/2008 : 02:34:33
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This is all so overwhelming. I thought I had reached a dead end, and then with the tremendous help you all have given me, I can take the Sundbye name further back to its earliest beginnings.
A very deep and appreciative thank you! I truly could not have done it without you.
Your all invited over for kippers!
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2008 : 06:39:45
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Abelone Larsdatter was baptized Sept 20 1750, see left hand page top record
her parents were Lars Larsen and Hellebor Andersdatter.
Abelone was married twice, see 1801
her first husband Anders Nielsen was burried Oct 14 1785, see #48
he was then 56 years old.
Halfdans grandmother Dorthe Torstensdatter is most likely the one at the bottom of right hand page here
baptized Aug 11 1805 and the parents were Tosten Nielsen and Karen Haagensdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 27/05/2008 08:33:02 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2008 : 21:08:34
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Torsten Nielsen and Karen Haagensdatter were married March 27 1801, see here
Karen was baptized Febr 2 1778, see the sixth record in 1778
her parents were Haagen Andersen and Cathrina Didrichsdatter Espestie.
Torsten Nielsen was baptized April 8 1776, see the fourth from the bottom of left column here
his parents were Niels Nielsen and Martha Jensdatter Skaare.
Niels Nielsen and Martha Jensdatter were married Febr 12 1776, see second record here
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Edited by - eibache on 28/05/2008 08:09:03 |
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sdbousson
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Posted - 28/05/2008 : 00:40:52
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| I think Anna Sundbye may have been a cousin, in a US Wisconsin census she is married to Hans Hansen and has a parcel of children with him. |
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sdbousson
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Posted - 28/05/2008 : 00:43:54
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| OOPS, Anna married Hans Sundbye.. I just don't know how you guys do this.. following the clues and all, but she maybe married into the Sundbye name.. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2008 : 20:18:36
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Torsten Nielsen on Hestehagen in 1801, Landsoldier (Infantry) and parents, tenant farmer Niels Nielsen and Marthe Jensdatter and a younger brother Cornelius age 18.
Jens Arvesen age 75 and Dorthe Michelsdatter age 73 are Marthe Jensdatters parents.
Torsten Nielsen was a recruited soldier in Sønnenfjeldske Gevorbne Infanteriregiment. 1. Nasjonale Bataljon, Onsøske (Onsø) Compay.
Karen Haagensdatter age 22 and parents Haagen Andersen and Catrine Didrichsdatter on Espestie in 1801, one brother Ole age 14 and two sisters, Grete and Inger. Anderse Didrichsen working as a servant could be her mothers brother, Hans Naskow "inderste" renter, soldier and shoemaker was likely a relaitve.
Catrine Didriksdatter was born on Espestie and christened in Onsøy Feb. 23. 1754, top right hand: Katrine Didrichsdatter Espestie born to Didrich Rolvsen and Maria Zachariasdatter
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Edited by - Kåarto on 29/05/2008 00:23:52 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2008 : 22:17:14
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Didrich Rolvsen was from Espesttie, he married Maria Zakariasdatter in Onsøy August 23. 1751, they were engaged in Mai, right page 7. line from top:
Didric Rolvsen Espestie and Maria Zachariasdatter.
Right column 4. line has the date for the wedding, 23. Aug.
Cationister/Best men: Stilloug Espestie and Tønne Bossum
Didrik Rolvsen was likely born on Espestie, his confirmation record from Dominica Quasimodi geniti, April 5. (1. Sunday after Easter)1744, 2. column 14. from top:
Didric Rolvsen Espestie
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Edited by - Kåarto on 28/05/2008 22:54:02 |
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sdbousson
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Posted - 29/05/2008 : 01:02:51
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| Ok, heres a question, when I look at the Digitalarkivet, I get the First Name, Last Name, Age, but where are they located physically at that time? Which heading is the city, town,county? I reallllly could not do this without you. s |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/05/2008 : 04:23:24
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| That of course depends WHAT document or database you are looking at on the Digitalarkivet website. We should guess from what?? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/05/2008 : 06:01:39
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You will find Haagen Andersen in the left column #2 from the top
his parents were Anders Mogensen and Kirsti ?
Haagen was born out of wedlock.
Anders Didrichsen in the 1801 census was Chatrines brother, see #6 from the top in right column, left hand page here
Chatrine also had a sister Kirstine, see bottom of right column, left hand page here
Marthe Jensdatters baptismal record is the third from the top, left hand page, left column here
she was baptized July 29 1753.
Her parents Jens Arvesen and Dorthe Michelsdatter were married July 5 1753, see #7 from top right hand page here
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Edited by - eibache on 29/05/2008 07:04:59 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/05/2008 : 09:56:11
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An explanation and definition of the words from the censuses abowe.
On top of the cencus from Digitalarkivet you will find:
- Amt- County
- Prestegjeld-Parish
- Sokn-Sub parish
- Gard-Farm
2. line first name and lastname, then Hushaldstilling which means position/standing. Husbonde-Head of Household.
- Hans kone-His wife
- Alder-age
- Sivilstand-Material status: Givt/Gift-Married, Ugift-Unmarried.
- Yrke-Profession.
- Leilending-Tenant farmer. Haagen Andersen was a tenant farmer on sub farm Espestie under Ellinggaard owned by Hans Chrystie, "Krigs assesor" assistent judge in the Ministry of Defence. Ellinggaard was a "Sædegaard", a noble farm first owned owned by Jon Haftorsen 1312-95, the kings Counsler and Knight.
- Føderaad-Former owner, a sort of pencion, recieving support from the new owner of the farm by a contract made on the sale.
- Enkemand-Widower
- Enke-Widow
- Børn-Children, s-son, d-daughter
- Tienestedreng-Male servant
- Tienestepige-Female servant
Espestie is first mentinoed in 1595, the name is coming from Espe (Osp)-Aspen and sti means foothpath.
This Dictionary could be to a great help in reading the censuses.
Norwegian Pronunciation is quite different from the English, the letters AA has changed to Å, some lastnames and farms are still keeping the old spelling.
Østfold County
Fredrikstad town and Onsøy parisn are located to the southern part of the county not fare from the Swedish border. Øsfold was earler named Smaalenene, see the 1801 census.
Good luck.
Kåre
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/05/2008 : 10:11:43
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Some farms can be found in this map
one example is to write Espesti (Gårdsbruk), Fredrikstad, Østfold in the søk - search line and/or on the left where you are supposed to velg - choose.
Spellings of the farm names may be different today. |
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Edited by - eibache on 29/05/2008 16:12:18 |
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Looking for Sundbye
