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peterlhamilton
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 Posted - 26/06/2008 : 20:49:50
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I believe that Lars Torgesen was one of my ancestors and am very interested in his life and times.
I think he emigrated from Norway and settled in Alberta Canada in the mid 1800's sometime.
If anyone has any information on him and his family I would love to read about it.
My ancestors were Bjerk-Lies from the Lillehammer area ( I think...) and our family farm is called Bronnoen and has been in the family for 800 years or so. I live with my Onkel Arne who worked for the Norwegian Resistance in the war and is a NN prisoner of war survivor. His sister Sylvei was Jens Evensen's wife and still tends her garden at age 87!
These are/were very tough people and full of what Arne calls "The Norwegian Steam"
I hope someone has some information On Mr Torgesen and that maybe I have some information that others are interested in.
Thank you.
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Lester Hanson
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 21:53:55
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Surely you must have some better dates!
Here is an example of what we get by looking for a farm name that starts with Br---,from 1801 in Oppland.
20 broner
11 bronstad
40 brønboe
12 brønd
5 brønddalen
27 brøndstad
4 brønerød
19 brønlund
12 brønnesdal
12 brønnevald
22 brønnum
24 brønnæs
13 brønrød
105 brønstad
13 brøntorp
44 brønøe
21 brønøyen
The next on line record is for 1865, and the list is a lot longer!
In 1801 there were 1334 men named Lars from Oppland.
Do not post any information of living relatives.
Les
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 26/06/2008 : 23:35:36
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There are two Brønnøen farms in eastern Norway, both in Akershus county, Asker and Bærum parishs.
The name means an island with freshwater or a well.
Could Bjerke-Lies be Bjerkeli or is it two seperate last names.
You dont have any idea about when Lars Torgersen was born?
1865 census has 76 Lars Torgersen. Did he emigrate as a bachelor?
Method of elimination.
My father, Arnt Torgersen, d.2003, was a POW in Lillehammer mai 1940, 5000 young men were forced to surrender in Gausdal after fighting the Germans for 30 days when they threatened to bomb Lillehammer town from the air.
They refused to obey the orders coming from a Captein, they wanted to hear it from the Colonel, a man of great respect.
He met the men and confirmed the order coming from the Generals.
Later my father entered the Resistance army.
Your uncle Arne must be one of the last Norwegian POW´s from WW2 still living, a great compliment to him.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/06/2008 00:01:47 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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atle-unnimarie
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 30/06/2008 : 14:00:26
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My response concerns the Resistance, not the search for the named Lars Torgesen. My compliments to those with a conscience who not only remained true to Norway but also joined the Resistance.
I was 6 / 7 when the Nazis hit Norway in 1940. I am half Norwegian from my dads side. I was born in California, far away from the Nordic Mid West of the USA. I knew nothing of the Nordic cultures, but I knew this was my blood. I changed our local youthful 'Cowboy - Indians games' to 'The Norwegian Underground - Nazis fight'. Hit and hide. Hide and seek. Hit and hide.
We had an eclectic ethnic mix, so the good guys could have been any of various roots, but I insisted we were all Norwegians. (Humans are innocent at birth and are devoid of the hatred 'taught' by immature adults. Such is life. Sad. Stupid.) We had not yet learned in school of Benedict Arnold or of any American or otherwise purported traitors of whatever degree or of whatever nationality, but we quickly learned of Vidkun Quisling. To us then there could be no valid reason for such dishonor, whatever the truth was or however the truth was twisted. All of us wished we were old enough to serve, not necessarily in the US Forces. We would rather have been of a Resistance Group. We could dazzle the enemy with all sorts of different languages, including Japanese. Interesting. Three of us ended up in our own USA Detention Camps in early 1942. Most all of us later served, honorably so, right after High School during the Korean 'Police Action'. College was not an option. Country was. Some used the tools learned in our youthful good guy - bad guy "fight". Some died. Some became POWs. Most came home as mature adults.
My congratulations to those Norwegians who fought for their Country as well as could be done under the circumstances, My sympathy to those who were encamped or lost their lives. And a special vicarious thanks from me and some friends as well as from many a supporter in principle the world over to those who Resisted. |
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peterlhamilton
New on board
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Posted - 14/07/2008 : 18:02:29
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Mr. Hanson- At present, I have no better dates,sir. I will work on this before I attempt to glean any other information and you have my apologies for any inconvenience I may have inadvertently caused. P. Hamilton
Kaarto- Thank you for your reply. I have since clarified what Bronnoen is-it was my great uncle Johs' home and the place where my uncle Arne grew up. I guess the family farm is the one in Lillehammer- I am getting more clarification from Arne on this.I will try to , by process of elimination, find more details on Lars Torgersen through all the links on the website.I will pass on your information and compliment to Arne Brun-Lie who is very much alive and will help me to find more information I think.Again i thank you for your cordiality. P Hamilton
Hopkins- Thank you for the link. I will use it to keep out of further trouble. P Hamilton
attle-unnimarie-Thank you for your reply- It seems that you too draw great inspiration from our courageous forebears.
I will pass on your complements to Arne as well. Let me say that he is an inspiration to many people - myself included. I am lucky to be able to be around his ever positive attitude. He was , and is , a fighter. P Hamilton
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/07/2008 : 20:00:31
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Onkel Arne who worked for the Norwegian Resistance in the war and is a NN prisoner of war survivor. His sister Sylvei was Jens Evensen's wife and still tends her garden at age 87!
If this Jens Evensen is the politician born November 5 1917 in Oslo, died february 15 2004 it is most likely that Brønnøya is the island in the Oslo Fjord and that Bjerke is the name of a farm in Tanum (Vestre Bærum), Akershus.
Some family names and some info on time - years would be most interesting. |
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Edited by - eibache on 18/07/2008 11:31:09 |
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