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Rbergg
Starting member
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Posted - 06/01/2003 : 23:03:45
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My great grand parents were married in Nordmannvik around 1874. They were Karl Hess and Kristen Marie Marcussen. They had five children. Louise Caroline Hess, born in 1874 in Norway, my grand mother. Carl Martin Hess Martin Carlsen Hess (children Clifford, Doris and James) Clara Hess (Child: Audrey Dahl) Charles Hess (Children: Raymond, Bradford and Eveln) Martin Hess (Children: Adelaid and Mildred Einerson) I am trying to get information about Karl Hess and Kristen Marcussen and their ancestors in Norway. My father had told be that they emigrated from Haugasund RBBerggren
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sjdahl
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 21:05:08
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I was stunned to find your post just now. I also have been trying to find information on Karl Hess and his family. My father-in-law (Stanley) is the son of Clara Hess & Kristoffer Dahl, brother to Audrey Dahl Smith. I do have some information and would love to share with you what I have found. |
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Rbergg
Starting member
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 21:55:11
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I hardly know to start. I have not been doing much on the family tree recently. I have information on earlier ancestors. I am not able to get is all together right now but will contact you again when I have all of the information organized. Ron Berggren |
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Rbergg
Starting member
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 18:33:24
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It is my impression the the Hess family came from the Bergen area and most likely date back to the time of the Hansiatic League. The name sounds more German than Norwegion. The earliest individuals I know of on the Hess side are Karl Martin Hess and his wife Johanne Marie Wolmer (no birth, death or marriage dates. They are the parents of Carl (Karl) Johann Hess (b. 12 Feb 1850 in Bergen City, Hordaland County; d. 223 Oct 1922, Brooklyn NY) He married Kristen Marie Markussen (b. 29 Jul 1851 in Dypvag parish, Aust-Agder County; d. Nov 1925 Brooklyn NY) the daughter of Mikkel Markusen ( no birth date; died at sea 27 April 1854) and Karen Jensdatter (b. 1822 Gjerstad parish; no date of death or marriage date). Their daughter was Louis Karolin Hess (b. 29 Jul 1876, Dypvag parish, Aust-Ager County; d, 06 May 1934) Mikkel Markussen and Karen Jensdotter had another child, Jon Bjorn Mikkelsen (b. 1849; d. 1854). He was born in Nordmanvik farm, Dypvagparish. I have no information on how Mikkel and Karen met, he from Bergen and she from Aust-Ager but they evidently moved to her home. I have a picture of the farm set to me by the National Archives of Norway. It appears that it might have been some sort of a co-op. Several years ago when I was in Norway I visited the historical centers in Bergen and the city of Haugesund but I had not yet had enough information to ask the right questions. I have corresponded with Susan Widell the daughter of Doris Hess and granddaughter of Martin Hess and Hanna Andersen. She has been able to identify some of the people in the later times but any further back then I have recounted above. I have very many photographs, some identified but many not. These are both separate and some are in scrapbooks dating from the 1890s to the 1920s. Do you have that large photo of the Hess family taken around 1917-18? I have one and all the people in the picture are identified. I am not sure that I can attach any files to this system but I could do that my direct email. My e-mail address is rbergg@aol.com of want to use it. Ron Berggren
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 20:32:42
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I think you are rihgt about the origin of the name Hess, and Bergen town is correct.
Carl Martin Hess born Jan. 27. 1818 and Johanne Marie Magdalene Wolmer born Mai 22. 1815 married in Nykirken in Bergen July 23. 1843. Parents: Lorents Hess Bøtkermager and Ole Chr. Wolmer Stolemager, #30
Carl Johan Hess born Feb. 12. was christened in the same church on March 17. 1850 #14
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/07/2008 21:03:44 |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 20:55:04
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Lorentz Hess in 1801, he was a "Bøtker" barrel maker living with his mother, widow Elizabeth Olsdatter age 70 living in 21. Rode (a small sub division) house nr 74. The other people were likley not relatives.
Ole Chr. Wolmer in 1801 he was a "Stolemager" Chair maker and wife Magdalena Anna_bejate Witte and a son Nils age 1 and three servants
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/07/2008 21:06:18 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 21:40:21
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Carl Martin Hess was baptized Febr 8 1818 in Domkirken, see next to the last record on left hand side here his father was Lorentz Hess and the mother was Karen Malene Arnesen. Johanne Marie Magdalene Wolmer was baptized Aug 6 1815 in Domkirken, see third record from top left hand page here her father was Ole Christian Wolmer and the mother was Magdalene Amalia de Withe. Carl Johann Hess was baptized March 17 1850 in Nykirken, see #14 his father was a customs officer. Kristen (shall be Kirsten) Marie was baptized Aug 10 1851, see #27 her parents were sailor Mikkel Marcussen and Karen Johnsdatter. (Kirsten Marie should then have been Mikkelsdatter.) John Biørn was born April 22 1849, see #22 Mikkel Marcussen and Karen Johnsdatter were then at Vestre Askerøen and in 1865 Karen was a widow at Nordmandvik, see here Jens Marcus was born Sept 9 1846, see #28
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Edited by - eibache on 12/07/2008 23:15:41 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 00:22:43
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Widow Karen Malena Arnesen-Hess age 83 in 1865, late Lorentz Hess was still listed as "Gardseigar" owner of house nr 85. Two other families, renters, lived in the house.
Many pictures of Dypvåg church in the eastern part of Aust-Agder county. Dypvåg became a part of Tvedestrand municipalty Jan. 1. 1960.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/07/2008 00:50:58 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 01:11:52
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Dypvåg 1865. Mikkel Marcussen died before 1865, widow Karen Jonsdatter and two children, Jens Markus and Kirsten Marie on Nordmannvik in 1865.
Karen Jonsdatter was born in Gjerstad parish and municipality, north-eastern part of Aust-Agder county.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/07/2008 01:20:11 |
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sjdahl
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 03:47:40
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All of this information is so exciting. I have been at a standstill on this side of the family for several years. My father-in-law (Stanley Dahl) will be so excited when I share all the information that has been given. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 05:05:31
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Lorents Hess was born Jan 12 and baptized Jan 17 1783, see #2 his parents were Lorents Hess and Elisabeth Olsdatter. Lorents Hess and Elisabeth Olsdatter were married Aug 31 1777, see bottom of right hand page here this was Lorents 5th marriage. The 4th marriage was with widow Siri Hansdatter Aug 5 1770, see top of left hand page here The 3rd marriage was with Gurina Margarete Larsdatter Nov 30 1763, see left hand page here
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Edited by - eibache on 13/07/2008 05:47:45 |
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eibache
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 06:02:37
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Ole Christian Wolmer and Magdalene Amalia de Withe were engaged June 24 and married Aug 29 1798, see third record from top of right hand page here Magdalene Amalia de Withe was actually baptized Malene Amalia on May 14 1779, see left hand page here she was born May 7 and her parents were Johan de Witte and Karen Schanche. Ole Christian Wolmer was baptized June 6 1773, see top of right hand page here his parents were Niels Peter Wolmer and Malene Christensdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/07/2008 06:50:10 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 12:01:59
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You are welcome. I first made some lookups in northern Norway where 5 farms Nordmannsvik are located in Lyngen parish, when the new information from Rbergg appeared it cleared up.
In 1865 it was 55 Hess and 5 Wolmer in Norway In 1900 it was 71 Hess and 6 Wolmer in Norway.
Today there are 221 Hess and 13 Wolmer living in Norway found in Kvasir. Søk means go.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 14:23:23
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Dypvåg 1874. Bachelor and Seaman Carl Johan Hess married maid Kirsten Marie Mikkelsdatter Mai 19. 1874. Fathers: Karl Martin Hess and Mikkel Markussen, both born 1850 #12
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/07/2008 : 14:47:02
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Dypvåg 1876 #53: Louise Karoline born Mai. 9, christened June 4. 1876. Parents "Matros" Seman Carl Johan Hess and Kirsten Marie Mikkelsdatter Nordmandsvik. Godparents: Karen Jensdatter Nordmandsvik, Pauline Mikelsdatter ibid (the same place), Markus Jensen ibid, Jørgen Jørgensen ibid, Ole Knudsen Rommundstad (farm in sub parish Holt in Dypvåg)
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/07/2008 14:49:58 |
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