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vivian
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 Posted - 07/07/2008 : 05:01:06
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| Sorry but I am new at this. I am trying to find family living in Norway.How strange is it that out of 4 grandparents they all came from Norway and found there sweethearts and Married in the U.S..Ok here is one of them my grandfather his name is Sverre Martinsen he was born in Trondheit Norway on Oct .4 1904.He came to the U.S. throw Canada in 1927.I only know of his sister's names and I am sorry for the spelling of there names My Aunt is old and she gave them to me. Olga, Constins,Dongane. and i think the last one sounds like Quear.his brothers names I don't know. He met my grandmother in brooklyn and married her in New York.Her maiden name is Ethal Woldseth and they had four children.My grandmother's family is from a small Island outside of Bergan call Crossa or OS. She has a brother Otto Willset again I am sorry for any miss spelling.I think her father's name was Jacob Crossa her mother's name was Martha she was married a couple of times her other marriage name were Thomson,Willset and Yohenson.Her mother's maiden name I think was Martha Hansen or Hanson.Can anyone help me. Thank you so much for reading Vivian |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 11:36:57
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Hard to find these people, this could be a start, need help.
Could it be Sverre Norman Martinsen born 1904 leaving from N (Nedre-Lower) Stjørdal in 1924. dest Canada, Cunard Line, which could mean he changed ship in England, Liverpool or Southampton dest. Halifax or Montreal Canada. It looks like he took the railroad "Jernbane" via Oslo to Bergen town.
Abowe him there is a Emil Bernhard Woldseth born 1874 in Strinda parish in Trondheim, dest. Canada on the same journey.
Stjørdal municipality is close, north east of Trondheim town in Nord Trøndelag county
I couldn´t find him, here are the records for Stjørdal
If Ethal was born in Norway she was likly christened Edel. Os is a municipality south of Bergen town in Hordaland county
Quear is likely Kvear. There are 23 persons with lastname Kvear in Norway today, all living in Buskerud county in eastern Norway, there were two Kvear farms in Flesberg north of Kongsberg town in the 1900 census.
Yohenson is likely Johansen in Norway.
This Dictionary can be to a great help in reading the Norwegian censuses.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 14:42:04
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How strange is it that out of 4 grandparents they all came from Norway and found there sweethearts and Married in the U.S..
It is not strange. New emigrants from Norway tended to settle in areas where other Norwegians had already arrived and settled. They could speak their native language together and share their traditional lifestyle to a greater extent while learning the ways of the new country. They could establish church congregations together.
I can think of particular small towns and communities in the American midwest that were almost completely pioneered and populated by Norwegians who had emigrated and joined by later new emigrants who were often from their home areas in the old country.
Even in such urban areas such as Brooklyn there were "pockets" of Norwegians living in close proximity. There were Norwegian Lutheran church(es) in Brooklyn and even a Norwegian home for old seamen (or something like that -- it is not an area where I've personally done research but I've overheard others discussing it in past years.)
Persons from other countries tended to do the same thing. Consider the origins of Chinatown areas in many American cities, the strong Polish areas of Chicago, the Irish in Boston, etc. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 07/07/2008 14:43:35 |
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vivian
Junior member
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 15:14:33
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Hi Kåarto
Thank you so much yes Sverre Norman Martinsen you found was my grandfather.My Aunt said that he had silbing that stayed in Norway If there is any other imformation on them or there family still living I would love to know about.My Aunt said that my grandmother was born in the U.S. by a midwife.She returned home to Norway to live with her mother in Norway.Her mother's name was Martha Woldseth.They lived on a Island out side of Bergen called Crossa or my Aunt said OS is the name of the Island.She told me when they want to visit family in Norway my grandmother passport stated her name as Adel Woldseth.Her brother's name was Otto Willset and her father as Jacob Crossa not sure of the spelling of Crossa is write.My Grandmother grow up on that Island with her family.My Aunt is sending me more names from my grandmother's side of the family.Thank you So Much Vivian |
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vivian
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 15:31:26
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Hi Hopkins
Yes there is a section in Brooklyn years ago that were all Norwegians .My grandmother lived there till her 60's and then the area started to change and my Aunt had to take her out of New York.It became unsafe for her to stay there alone after my grandfather's death. I remember going to the deli and they had all kinds of Norwegian foods there.What I would give now for a taste of some of the dishes.The only thing I know how to make is Cookies my grandmother us to say the Norwegian name for them in English was a poor man's cookie.I make them at Christmas time for my family and they all love them my grandchildren help to make them with me.Thank you so much Vivian |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 15:38:14
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It was him, you were right, he was born in Trondheim. He used his fathers lastname Martinsen when he emigrated.
Sverre Normann (Andersen) born Oct. 4. 1904 christened in Strinda church in Trondheim on Dec. 25 #20, parents were Laborer Anders Kristian Martinsen and Sofie Marie Tobiassen, both born 1875. they lived in Marielgate Mariel street.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 16:02:00
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Here are his parents and a sister Dagny born April 28. 1900 in Strinda/Trondheim, Sverres father was born in Ørlandet and his mother was born in Flakstad.
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vivian
Junior member
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 17:46:50
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Hi Kåarto
Thank you so much for all your help it means so much to me and my family.The more you learn about your family history the more understanding you have about yourself.
Were you able to find out about my grandfathers other sister and brother.Another sister's name was Olga. Thank you so much Vivian |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 23:02:50
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Hi,
it looks like Strinda / Byåsen 1897-1914, skannet klokkerbok ca 60% down could be the right parish, Sverres sister Dagny Othelie was christened in the same parish June. 6. 1900 #11
Perhaps you would like to make a try for yourself, its very exiting to find a person you have been looking for perhaps for a long time?
Its easier than expected.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 23:45:13
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Sverre Normann´s father Anders Christian Martinsen was born Oct. 10, christened Nov. 7. 1875 in Ørland church
Parents: Martin Benoni Andersen born 1848 and Oline Jørgine Antonsdatter Kongsvold born 1847, they married 1873, child #66.
His confirmation on Sept. 20. 1891 in Ørland, #25 (1869-1892, page 251) show him born on farm Storfosen
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Edited by - Kåarto on 08/07/2008 00:00:22 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 02:27:40
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Ah, you make fattigmann (poor man's cookies).
My siblings and I still gather before Christmas to make a BIG mess in someone's kitchen. Flour flying, we laugh and make our family's long loved Norwegian favorites. Last season the youngest neice was new to our gathering and she shows great and promising talent I'm buying a rolling pin for her next birthday gift.
Kåre encourages you to try to search the Norwegian records yourself and I heartily agree with him - It IS easier than expected and very exciting.
The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 08:30:44
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Oline Jørgine Antonsdatter was born on Bakken (Hillside) Sept. 27, christened Dec. 25 in Ørland. Parents Anthon Olsen Bakken and Siri/Sigrid Knudsdatter #142.
Oline Jørgine age 19 worked as a servant maid on Garten in 1865
Her parents lived on Stranden (The beach), her father was a tenent farmer and fisherman, two sons, Johan Peter age 11 and Kasper age 21, Fisherman, all born in Ørland.
Olines confirmation was on Sept. 21. 1862.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 09:05:35
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A good reason for bringing up this information, if someone is looking for the same family and enter this topic they might have more information, perhaps about living relatives in Norway.
Perhaps Strinda Historical Society has some information
Anton Olsen age 26 and Sigrid Knudsdatter age 27 married on August 27. 1847. Fathers: Ole Amundsen and Knud Hansen (a bit hard to read the last names), couple #13, he was from Bakken and she was from Terning
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Edited by - Kåarto on 08/07/2008 13:28:55 |
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vivian
Junior member
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Posted - 09/07/2008 : 05:02:46
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Hi Kåre
I was wondering if the books you send me with my grandfather's christining page is just for that church or is it listings for all the churchs in the area? They pages seam to stop and then the years start over again. I found my grandfather's brother Konsbanse Uarie Martinsen he was born 7/9/1097 and christined on 9/15/1907 Well I am hoping it's him my grandfather's mother and father's name is there as parents.I am still looking for my grandfather's other 2 sister I will keep looking in the book you sent me Thank you so much.Vivian |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2008 : 10:33:47
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Hi Vivian,
Trondheim was several parishs but no main parish (to my knowledge) which often included several sub parishs.
The records for your grandfather only exist it the church books for Strinda parish, exept
his confirmation record about 1920, Strinda stop at 1914, its in another Church/parish. But which, or perhaps the records are not online yet?
You see, it wasnt difficult to find his sister Konstance Marie #7
Your grandfather Sverre also had a brother Birger born 1901 and sister Nora Antonine born 1911, keep looking, I´ll bring up the links later.
Church records are protected by the law of a persons privacy as birth records etc. 80 years rule, 1928, the 1910 census will be online 2010.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 09/07/2008 13:15:27 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2008 : 12:09:43
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We havn´t been looking into Sverres mother and her family yet, perhaps continue on his fathers family first.
Sverre´s grandfather Anton Olsen was born in Bakken in Ørland July 22.1820 and christened August 27, parents were Ole Amundsen Fisker (Fisherman) and Olava Jensdatter Bakken #45.
Ole Amundsen and Olava Jensdatter married in Sept. 1816, he was a widower, right page 18. and 19. line from top, a bit hard to read.
Ækteviede Enkemand (Widower) Ole Amundsen Holdte og pige (and maid) Olava Jensdatter Næsset.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 09/07/2008 12:29:57 |
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Sverre Martinsen,or Ethal Woldseth
