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GloriaHerbert
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 Posted - 15/01/2009 : 19:09:17
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Okay, I did a little research with family files. This is what I came up with and maybe is how the three topics I have lead to me. I have few documents, but a short story written by a family member in the 1970's, taken from the elders.
Nils Amundsen Stokke,(b10/26/1842) born on Stokke whiile mother was visiting father, signed the Kirke bok, indicating he was leaving for America on 4.19.1868. His father was Anumd Anthonsen (b. 10/28/1810) (info at another topic) Nils worked for Han Hansson Kaarestad and many other farmers as carpenter before going to America, Hans Hansson Kaarstad, his wife (Mari) and 4 daughters (Abelone-25 born Ablu), Rakel -16, Katherine-21 and Anne-13. went to America around 1869-1870, Hans Mother Abelone Hage died in 1870 age 83 years in Norway (have no more on her).
In america, Ole Monssen Aaland married Hans daughter Anne, Nils married Hans daughter Rakel and Rasmus married Hans daughter Kathrina, Ablu married Ole Olsen Kjornaes (From Norway) They all immigrated through Canada to Wisconson, later going to South Dakota to buy their own farms in the same township where they built a church that looked exactly like their own parish in Norway.
Hans had a sister named Anne who married Lars Ketilson Fannebo.
John Aaland brought his family to America in the late 1860's.
Anton volunteered to join the military against his father's wishes as he was the 1st born son, he did not return to the family farm, but went to Christiania (Oslo) wher he met and married a Samuline, in 1870 their 2nd child was born. (Anton is on another Topic) It's part of the story.
Nils changed his name in America to his father's farm name and changed the spelling of his first name. Nels Amundsen Dale my 2nd great grandfather. Nels farm in South Dakota is where all the family members came when they first arrived in America, where they would stay until they could find places of their own.
Only where I indicated do I have copies of the documents. Any help would be appreciated. If I wrote something that is confusing, please let me know and I will try to explain. I thank you in advance for any help.
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eibache
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Posted - 15/01/2009 : 20:28:26
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Niels Amundsen born Oct 26 1842 was bapt Oct 30, see #45
his father was Amund Anthonsen Stokke and the mother Daniele Johnsdatter.
In 1865 Amund is at Jeilene
with his wife Marte Jakosdatter and his daughter Danele.
Daniele was born Jan 4 1854, see
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Amund and Daniele Johnsdatter were then on Dale.
In 1865 Nils Amundsen was a cooper renting room at Andenes
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Edited by - eibache on 15/01/2009 20:48:14 |
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eibache
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Posted - 15/01/2009 : 22:17:25
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Hans Hansen Kaarestads daughter Anne was born April 1 1856 and bapt Anne Berthine April 6, see #10
Rachel was born Febr 26 1853, see #6
Hans Hansens daughter Abeloe was born Dec 30 1843 and bapt Febr 4 1844. Her mother was Malene Nilsdatter Gaasemyr, see #8
Abelo was confirmed in 1858, see #21
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Edited by - eibache on 15/01/2009 22:46:48 |
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eibache
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Posted - 15/01/2009 : 23:06:32
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Abelone Willumsdatter was bapt July 21 1787, see 9th record from top, female page
her parents were Willum Nielsen Hage and Karen Rasmusdatter.
Hans Hansen and Abelone were married Jan 5 1817, see #2
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Edited by - eibache on 15/01/2009 23:10:25 |
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GloriaHerbert
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Posted - 15/01/2009 : 23:21:24
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Wow eibache, You are great. I will spend the next few hours going over the info. Thanks again.
Will be back. |
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GloriaHerbert
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Posted - 16/01/2009 : 00:39:31
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To confirm I have it correct is: 1865 telling for 1447 Indvigen above, Hans Hanssen and Mari Knudsdatter. Mari must be his second wife (? and is Helga their daughter, and is Abelo Villumsdatter (Willumsdatter) his mother in law from the 1st marriage? Maybe he is a widower?
Thanks for reading all these documents. I don't know how you do it, but Thanks. |
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eibache
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Posted - 16/01/2009 : 06:30:32
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Yes Helga in th 1865 census is Hans Hansen and Mari Knudsdatters daughter, see #17
Most likely they had one or two children between Anne and Helga and who did not live in 1865.
I forgot to mention that Hans Hansens daughter Abelo was a child born out of wedlock.
Bachelor Hans Hansen and maiden Mari Bertine Knudsdatter were married Dec 9 1850, see .
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Hans Hansen had not been married before then. His father was also Hans Hansen, and he was married to Abelone Willumsdatter in the 1865 census.
Mari Bertine Knudsdatters father was Knud Knudsen from Hjelmeland in Eid parish.
Abelone and her parents and siblings in 1801
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Edited by - eibache on 16/01/2009 07:14:02 |
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eibache
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Posted - 16/01/2009 : 07:30:21
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Marie Bertine Knudsdatter was born Sept 19 1820, see #37
her parents were Knud Bergesen and Agathe Torjersdatter Espe.
(her father was given as Knud Knudsen in the marriage record, this must be wrong)
Knud Bergesen, his mother (widow) and siblings in 1801
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Edited by - eibache on 16/01/2009 07:31:56 |
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GloriaHerbert
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Posted - 16/01/2009 : 22:43:09
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| Wow. Thanks. Hope I get this right. On the 1801 census for Knud Bergesen, born abt 1791, his mother (widow) is Brithe? after 1st marriage? and his siblings John, Guttorm, and Berge. and Knud was 29 when he had Marie Bertine.? This working backwards sometimes gets me mixed up. Sorry. But this is really great. Your help has saved me hours of work. I really can't say thank you enough. |
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eibache
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 00:01:54
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Knud Bergesens parents were married June 22 1772, see 4th couple in left column
His father was soldier Birje Joensen Møchelbust and the mother maiden Brithe Guttormsdatter Hielmeland.
Knud was baptized Aug 6 1790, see last record in left column
only the father is mentioned Birje Hielmeland (Birje = Berge)
When the mother is listed as Brithe Bergesdatter in the 1801 census, this is wrong, see marriage record.
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GloriaHerbert
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 17:20:09
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| Thanks for the spelling explanation. This helps to recognize other names. What does it say after Knuds name on the same line. (bapt record) _________ Then if I understand correctly, Godparents are Rasmus A. Hielmeland, _______ Mari Larslandatter and either Ane or Arne Hielmeland. Then on the parents marriage the wittness are Ole Hielmeland and Niels Hielmelandson _____? Thanks. I am just beginning to view all the wittnesses on all the documents after reviewing all the paperwork. I know I should have asked questions sooner, but my reading is slow. I am sorry to take so long in asking questions. |
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Edited by - GloriaHerbert on 17/01/2009 17:35:07 |
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GloriaHerbert
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 17:30:58
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| The name Marie Bertine has been passed down all the way to my daughter. This is the first time I understood where the name came from. I was told a family member, but no one could remember who. Thanks so much. On Marie Bertine bapt record I can hardly read the Godparents: Rasmus ----,-----, Kari-----, ------, Anna Pedersdatter Hielmeland, and Ragne-----Espe.?? |
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GloriaHerbert
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 17:43:27
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| 1865 census for Knud Bergsen. Is Kari Jacobsdotter the mother of Brithe and also a widow living on a pension? Thank you. |
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eibache
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 20:13:15
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What does it say after Knuds name on the same line. (bapt record) _________ Then if I understand correctly, Godparents are Rasmus A. Hielmeland, _______ Mari Larslandatter and either Ane or Arne Hielmeland.
the record reads:
6te August Birje Hielmelands N: Knud Test: (means witnesses = Godparents) Erich Tiørstad, Rasmus A. Hielmeland, Mons ibid (means Hielmeland), Mari Sævland, Ane Hilmeland (should have been Hielmeland)
From the 1801 census you will se that Rasmus A. Hielmeland is Rasmus Abelsen, Mons Hielmeland is Mons Rasmusen, Ane Hielmeland is more difficult, more than 1 in 1801. Mari Sævland is Mari Johansdatter and Erich Tiørstad (or Kiørstad) is Erich Hansen. |
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eibache
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 20:22:35
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Then on the parents marriage the wittness are Ole Hielmeland and Niels Hielmelandson _____?
Witnesesses were Ole Hielmeland who was the late Anne Rasmusdatters husband.
Niels (Hielmelandson) Hielmelandsbache who was not alive in 1801. |
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Rasmus Monsen Aaland
