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kathyzeien
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 Posted - 25/02/2009 : 16:14:10
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HI Jackie,
In the 1850 Census they have the Sordever Andersen, age 6, listed as a male. But then there is kind of a line across the m horizontally? The person is down as being born in Norway.
Looking back we still have not found Caroline in the 1880 Census either. Frustrating! |
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diana phillips
Starting member
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 18:14:59
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I looked through my research and cannot find a census where it shows Caroline boarding with another family, perhaps a hired hand. I remember this, but without the paper.................. I find John with the Bolgord family as stated in the posts, in 1880 (June), and in the 1900 census showing he and Caroline had been married nineteen years. (marriage 1880-1881) Also this is a time where he declares Immigration to be in 1868. If he came at 2 yrs, he may have made up a date, but that he chose 12 yrs old etc, seems like it was probably correct. At twelve he was likely to remember the event.
the family record shows Seneva as a girl, but again, no dates. |
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diana phillips
Starting member
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 20:25:57
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| I haven't been successful in getting John's Naturalization papers on the internet. I did subscribe to Ancestry.com a while back and got a few hits, but didn't understand how to search further, a few were for Iowa and then another in a different state. The site shows Greene County, Iowa has a record for a John Hanson (no Ike) year 1856; 1906, and one in Clay Co. Iowa for John Hanson year 1868.. Do any of you "vetrans" know how to process the information written on the Ancestry.com printouts? |
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kathyzeien
Medium member
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 22:39:28
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| I am not sure what exactly you are mentioning. I just looked quickly on Ancestry and the only naturalization papers I found were from California, Pennsylvania and New York. Will do some "googling" to try and find more information. I wouldn't rush off ordering tho until find more of a hint or clue he actually was listed as John Hanson. I am still looking for him in earlier censuses. |
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kathyzeien
Medium member
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 22:49:26
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| I was just thinking that if he immigrated with parents he would not need Naturalization papers, right? I had spaced out his birthdate when I replied the above post. |
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kathyzeien
Medium member
116 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2009 : 23:46:22
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I checked on your posting Jackie on the 1860 Census. Interesting, I then found these Hanson's in EauGalle, St.Croix, Wisconsin in 1860. Different names, but Hanson's
Ole Hanson, age 38, born in Norway
Betsey Hanson, age 27, born in Norway
Hans Hanson, age 7, born in Norway
Caroline Hanson, 3, born in Norway
The census for EauGalle, St. Croix, Wisconsin is only four pages and looked through the rest and only Hanson I found. |
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kathyzeien
Medium member
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 23:57:54
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Here is the 1870 Census in EauGalle, St. Croix, Wisconsin
Christian Hanson, age 43, farmer, born in Norway
Janette Hanson, wife, 53, born in Norway
Hans Hanson, son, 15, born in Norway
John Hanson, son, 13, born in Norway
Martha Hanson, 10, born in Wisconsin
Hans Williamson, 70, farm laborer, born in Norway
These names match your find from before. |
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 00:16:34
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| I just checked the 1880 Census for Christian Hanson and cannot find one in EauGalle, St. Croix, Wisconsin. |
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diana phillips
Starting member
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 00:32:41
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Upon closer look it says "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index 1500-1900"; In the source and bibliography information on the page it refers to Naturalization Records being in Greene County, Iowa and Clay county IA. I called the Iowa State Historical Library and got an address and phone #, and need to request any documents by mail and send in $. I wish I knew when he took the "Ike" name on though. I didn't know that a child who came with immigrant parents didn't have to be naturalized, does anyone know the rules on that? The lady at the State H Society told me that most of the records are short on information.
Today I found an interesting census in 1870 Necedah, Juneau, Wisconsin; a boarding house with various workers, lumber workers, farm labor, clerks for the store, laborers in the boarding house, and saw mill workers -all within the same home listing, 26 people in all. Five Hanson's show up ranging in age from 18 (or 14 where it is not good penmanship), to 50. John 18 or 14, Hans (20 yrs), Thomas (24 or 28), Jacob (50), Ole (34).
Then in 1870 in Gratiot, Lafayette, Wisconsin, there is a family with Hans Hanson (58) married to Lena(48) with children Hans 22, Oly 12, Martin 10, Hanah 6, and Lena 10/12; then a family down the page that I can't decipher , William Slothorn? with Matilda (wife), children; Louisa, Charles, Elisabeth, Ruf....., William, and then a John Hanson (15) living with them as a laborer.
Like posted, I don't have any parents names to verify a family. I will see if I can get a marriage cert., is there any other avenue any of you would try?
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kathyzeien
Medium member
116 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:10:31
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HI Diana,
Ordering the marriage certificate would be a good start. Another option to try is post a message on rootsweb in Brookings County where they lived. Go to www.rootsweb.com and on the left hand side of the page under Message Boards click on localities. Next click on North America, next United States, then States, next South Dakota, next Counties and finally Brookings. I gave you the detailed way so if you want to post messages on another county or state you will know how to do it. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes not. I would say check for other family trees but I believe you have done that. I checked on Ancestry and found nothing new. If you have any family members that could have any clues, ask. I found a family member of mine looking through old postcards that were saved. That is all I can think of right now. Good luck! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 15:15:56
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Hi Diana,
Yes the full record of the marriage may contain more information. After you get the state certificate of the marriage you could / should see if you can get the church record (provided it was celebrated in church).
A lot of the early Norwegian Lutheran pastors were trained "old-school" as in Norway with the expectation that they would keep the records and they attempted to keep the same level of records over here during the early days. Norwegian & Norwegian-American marriage records from that era (1850s + up) usually tell things like person's age, names of parents where the couple were living, sometimes where they were from.
Also if John was confirmed, say age 14-20, particularly in a Norwegian Lutheran church, sometimes the pastor would record where the confirmand was baptized, and the names of the parents, if known.
Also, since I'm working this theme, if John's children were baptized in a Norwegian Lutheran church, the names of the god-parents or sponsors of the child will usually contain the names of relatives or friends, typically most will have people from each side of the aisle (meaning the bride's and groom's sides of the family).
The ELCA archives in Chicago have and loan for a fee all the microfilm of Norwegian Lutheran church registers which were in existance in the 1970s. The archivist Joel Thoreson is most knowledgeable about the various church registers and could advise you which might be most useful. You have several venues for John Osceola, city or county, Brookings & Deadwood SD, heck why did they come to Lisbon, ND in 1885, there was a baby in the family then, maybe baptized in North Dakota? You may also hire the archives staff to search records for you. www.elca.org
If John lost both parents at age 2, he may not have ever known much about them to forget, if he was 12 he may have known enough for it to be recorded in some of these records. Have you found an obituary and have you gotten his death certificate?
In the research for my great grandfather, we had the barest of clues, his birthdate and that he was from someplace called "Ringerike." At the time we searched, the map most in use had Ringerike as a borderless place not so far from Oslo. We got a farm name "Vager" from the call letter he signed at his local church and that information is what narrowed us to the parish he came from. That is the kind of detail you are looking for.
Good Luck....
Jackie M. |
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Shaz
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Posted - 16/07/2014 : 07:02:58
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I have John Hanson, need help as well.
Hans Jacobs Hanson, Birth ABT 1830 in Norway
Death 1925 in in Roseau, Minnesota (Not sure if correct)
Arrival1859 3 Dec 〞 Age: 29 Sydney, New South Wales
Married Christina Stuck, Birth abt 1834 in Norway
children
John Hanson1857 每 1901#10063;
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Johannes Hanson1860 每 #10063;
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Olivia Hanson1860 每 #10063;
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Sophia Hanson1862 每 1913#10063;
Lars Hanson1864 每 #10063;
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Hans Hanson1868 每 #10063;
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Caroline Hanson1869 每
John Hanson, my 2nd great grandfather, Birth abt 1857 in Norway
Death 9/5/1901 in Port Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Marriage to Mary Ann Lees1881 25 Apr 〞 Age: 24Res of George Lees Kingston Port Adelaide SASA reg no PtA 127/286 Grooms father Hans Jacob Hanson. Brides father George Lees
Residence He lived in Canada for a while before finally settling in Rosewater, South Australia. He was a miller by trade.
Children Fanny Hanson1882 每 #10063;
George Hanson1883 每 1955#10063;
James Hanson1884 每 #10063;
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Hilda Hanson1884 每 #10063;
John Hanson1885 每 1962#10063;
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Elizabeth Irene Hanson1888 每 #10063;
Bertie Hanson1890 每 1963#10063;
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Harold James Hanson1892 每 1989#10063;
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Ada May Hanson1894 每 1980#10063;
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Sarah Hanson1896 每 1936#10063;
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Ivy May Hanson1899 每
John Hanson, my great grandfather, Birth 1/9/1885 in Dockville, South Australia
Death 17/7/1962 in Residence, Seaton North, South Australia, Australia
Marriage to Elizabeth Walton1906 3 Feb 〞 Age: 20Registry Office Port Adelaide SAreg no PtA 226/401 (at time of marriage groom aged 20yrs, bride 23yrs) Father of Groom JOHN HANSON, Father of Bride JOHN WALTON
Residence1939 〞 Age: 54Hindmarsh Electroral Roll 19396314 Hanson, John, son, 81 Wellington st, Portland, laborer M
Death1962 17 Jul 〞 Age: 76Residence, Seaton North, South Australia, AustraliaSA reg no Hin 942/4990 aged 76yrs) Name: Hanson, John Date of Death: 17 July 1962 Age: 76 Years Last Abode: SEATON NORTH, SA Service Type: Burial Cemetery: Cheltenham Cemetery Section: Section T Drive: D Path (#): 9(20) Site Number: 26
Would love any help at all.
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neilsather
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Posted - 22/07/2015 : 00:38:01
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Hi, I am new to the Heritage having Google searched and sent here to a thread on john Hanson Ike. Can anyone tell me if there is anything new since 2009?
I believe he is my great uncle! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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JaneC
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