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kathyzeien
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 Posted - 17/02/2009 : 01:57:29
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The family tree where it has John Ike's birth is private. I could send a e-mail through Ancestry to the person but thought that should be the person who posted it's responsibility. I don't want to step on any toes! The reason I mentioned it is they have John's information listed as having two sources. That could be something helpful.
I just got done searching for Caroline Anderson/Andersen in the 1880 census and have had no luck. Sometimes the people are hard to find due to transcribing errors or I could just be missing it. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 11:33:24
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I wonder if the owner of this topic has som more information, a name, anything could be very helpful for us.
Was his father Hans or was Hansen a family name?
Both parents lived when they emigrated about 1868 so they should be in the 1865 census.
Kċre
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 12:29:51
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Both parents lived when they emigrated about 1868 so they should be in the 1865 census.
Kċre
Some sources give the year of emigration as 1865, so they don't have to be in the 1865-census, which was done in January 1866.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 13:13:00
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Then it´s to look for the needle in the hay stack,
genealogy can be exiting and challenging.
Let´s hope the owner has some add. information to share.
Kċre
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 19/02/2009 : 00:16:23
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Hello,
I did e-mail the poster of the private family tree mentioned. If she gets back with further information on John Ike, will let you know. I will tell her about the postings here which may be helpful to her.
I did find the following today online from the History of Southeastern Dakota that was interesting.
O.L. Anderson Biography on Volga on page 385
Harness and saddles, born in Wisconsin in 1851. Moved with his parents to Goodhue Co. MN. lived at Mankato, MN until spring of 1879. Moved to Oakwood D.T. Sept. 1879 moved to Volga, entered business above. Married to Anna Sophia Johnson of MN. in Sept. 1879, one son and one daughter. This is probably Lars and Anna's son born on the third page of postings on this family, Ole b. Aug. 30, 1851.
Also in the Volga Biographies on page 385 is a P. Bolgord. This is the same name that is in the 1880 Census on page one of the postings with John Ike. Don't know of any relationship, just interesting.
P.Bolgord- wagon and carriage factory, born in Norway in 1851, came to the United States in 1869, located at New Lisbon, Wis. Came to Volga in Feb. 1880, entered into business as above. Married to Sarah Nelson, of Wisconsin, and has one son and one daughter.
Did find as mentioned in posts Lars and Anna's immigration on Utfytta fra Voss 1837-1864 under name of Lars Andersen Drogsvold with the immigration year of 1844 and is also on Norway Heritage's list under L. Andersen. Just neat to see.
Hopefully the person looking for information will check back and see the nice things you guys have found.
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diana phillips
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 01:28:34
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To Hopkins: The source for the dates and places comes from a family story that one of Caroline's children collected. I told of his birth year, the paper says he immigrated when he was two. And that they settled near Osceola Iowa. His mother died shortly thereafter and he was given to another family to raise. The story says at some time he added Ike to his last name, because it was the name (first or last?- the story says it was the first name) of the man who was the head of house where he went to live. But I have no idea when he actually made that addition to his own name. Or if he was adopted or did it legally. That is something I was going to try to find out. I plunk away at this often, but I am afraid I am going in circles! You have no idea how excited I am to find so many responding. THANK YOU ALL! I am a novice and have very little to use as far as documentation. Only a story and the census records to prove. The death certificate had nothing more than what I already had. Died 4-15-1907, lived in Deadwood 10 years, was 50 at his death (showing he was born on 4-15-1857. born in Norway: no parents were named. His wife Caroline was the daughter of Lars Anderson and Anna Nelson. She had 9 siblings. I appreciate all help, and wouldn't be offended if any of you get an idea and run with it. I have several census records but can't find him in the early years to find the parents, that is my goal.
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diana phillips
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 01:33:24
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To Hopkins: The source for the dates and places comes from a family story that one of Caroline's children collected. I told of his birth year, the paper says he immigrated when he was two. And that they settled near Osceola Iowa. His mother died shortly thereafter and he was given to another family to raise. The story says at some time he added Ike to his last name, because it was the name (first or last?- the story says it was the first name) of the man who was the head of house where he went to live. But I have no idea when he actually made that addition to his own name. Or if he was adopted or did it legally. That is something I was going to try to find out. I plunk away at this often, but I am afraid I am going in circles! You have no idea how excited I am to find so many responding. THANK YOU ALL! I am a novice and have very little to use as far as documentation. Only a story and the census records to prove. The death certificate had nothing more than what I already had. Died 4-15-1907, lived in Deadwood 10 years, was 50 at his death (showing he was born on 4-15-1857. born in Norway: no parents were named. His wife Caroline was the daughter of Lars Anderson and Anna Nelson. She had 9 siblings. I appreciate all help, and wouldn't be offended if any of you get an idea and run with it. I have several census records but can't find him in the early years to find the parents, that is my goal.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 01:41:47
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Hi,
Deadwood was a pretty lively place, they probably had a newspaper, try the South Dakota State Historical society for a paper...Good Luck!
Something may have brought John's mother to Osceola city or county, Iowa, like a relative etc.
Good Luck
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diana phillips
Starting member
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 02:05:40
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I sent a message to Hopkins thinking it would be a general response (learning to navigate this site) and don't want to be redundant if the info will show up here as well. Then I saw this section! In a nut shell THANK YOU to all who have jumped in. John Hanson (Ike) born in Aug 1856 -1857 through different census records. Family story shows him born near Oslo Norway, immigrating at 2 ys old and ending up near Osceola ,Iowa. (But the census records I find say he came to the US when he was 12). His mother died shortly after arriving and he was given to another family, using the head of household's first name, he added Ike to his name. He migrated to Dakota Territory around 1880, got married to Caroline Sophia Anderson (daughter of Lars Drugsvold Anderson and Anna Nelson, had twelve children (George and Clarice to finish the list). She died in1930 and was buried in Mt Moriah Cemetery in Deadwood, SD. We have a weak family story, and some census records to go on. The death certificate wasn't helpful at all, it had the death date, and illness, and his age, which shows he was born April 15 1857. All the records are iffy, as few of them agree!.
I have the Anderson family living in Brookings Minnesota, and have reason to believe John could have been there as well, but no proof. The family story listed Osceola Iowa, but yes that is vague, as there are a few places that it could mean. Thanks again.
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diana phillips
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 02:24:24
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Also I don't have a membership to Ancestry so any names/links or help in that area would be appreciated.
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diana phillips
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 19:42:24
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For Caroline Sophia Anderson we have a family print up of her family, compiled from a niece of Carolines. Father Lars b. nov 1819 in Vingie Co., Voss, Norway. mother Anna Nelson (Nelsdatter) b. apr 1823 Vingie Co., Voss, Norway. They had 11 children as remembered by family, but no years of birth are given in the paper. Names: Seneva (Sunora) , Andrew, Ole, Louis (Lewis), Nels, John, Cornelius, Caroline Sophia, Julius, Andreas (Andy), Anna Louisa.
I have an 1880 census from Brookings, Dakota Terr. South Dakota, with Lars and Anna and 4 children. There is also one I found in Bergen, Vernon, WI for 1880 (Lars and Annie) but I don't believe that one is a match.
The obituary for Caroline says she was 20 yrs old at first coming to the Dakota area, having lived in Volga, Deadwood, and Sioux Falls. It states her husband died 26 six years prior to her death. She was born OcT 30 1861 near Red Wing, Minnesota. It Says she was 69 when she passed away. The obituary seems inconsistent with some of the years etc. I am going over all the posts and trying to link the info with the stuff I have collected. Thank you again.
diana
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 22:31:47
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I found this in the 1865 Minnesota Territorial Census - Wanamingo, Goodhue County - Enumerated June 1, 1865
Lars Anders
Anne
Anders
Nels
Ole
Lars
Johan
Cornelius
Caroline
Martin
It is Lars Anders and not Lars Andersen, but interesting with so many of the same names. Could the last name be just a error?
1865 Census does not have much information other than names tho.
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 23:04:30
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1850 Census - Pleasant Springs, Dane County, Wisconsin
Enumerated on Oct. 8, 1850
Andrew Andersen, age 3, born abt. 1847 in Wisconsin
Ann Andersen, age 56, born in Norway about 1824
Lars Andersen, age 30, born in Norway about 1820, farmer
Niels Andersen, age 1, born in Wisconsin, about 1847
Sundever Andersen, age 6, born in Norway about 1844
If you go to page 3, top posting, of these pages and read Jackie's posting, you will find the family in censuses scattered throughout these pages. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/02/2009 : 23:13:29
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Originally posted by kathyzeien
I found this in the 1865 Minnesota Territorial Census - Wanamingo, Goodhue County - Enumerated June 1, 1865
Lars Anders
Anne
Anders
Nels
Ole
Lars
Johan
Cornelius
Caroline
Martin
It is Lars Anders and not Lars Andersen, but interesting with so many of the same names. Could the last name be just a error?
1865 Census does not have much information other than names tho.
This might be something else, but I found these people on LDS. Again, many of the same names.
Lars Hendrik Andersen & Anne Maria Andersdr
Children:
Maren Andrine, born 05 Aug 1837, Eiker, Buskerud
Johanne, born 15 Jul 1839, Eiker, Buskerud
Caroline, born 20 Sep 1841, Eiker, Buskerud
Anne, born 19 Aug 1844, Eiker, Buskerud
Cornelia, born 22 Sep 1846, Eiker, Buskerud
Cornelius, born 28 Oct 1848, Eiker, Buskerud
Anders, born 07 Jul 1851, Eiker, Buskerud
Johan, born 07 Oct 1854, Eiker, Buskerud
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 06:37:41
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Hi Kathy & Diana,
In your most recent post, Sundever age 6 girl or boy? Child is not on the list in Norwegian Immigrants
It would make sense if a girl, to be named after her grandmother Synneve.
If the story of coming to America at age 2 or so is correct then John should be in the 1860 census. Here are John, Johannes, etc Hanson/Hansen found in the 1860 census index at the Digitalarkivet. There 90 John Hansons listed, some are quite interesting candidates. Sorry for some reason, I can't get the right address for my search. This will take you to the beginning, search criteria I chose were first names beginning with jo, picking through that for any jon, johannes, john, johnney etc ending with something like 2600. Then selecting for last name beginning with hans got to 90. Long way around
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=50&filnamn=ft21001860&medbilete=&sokpostnr=1#a0
This family was most interesting because of the ages and birthdates of the kids, John Hanson age 3 b. Norway, Mattie age 1 born Wisconsin means the family was moving at about the right times:
Wisconsin St. Croix Eaugalla 249 C. Hanson m 31 Norway
46330 Wisconsin St. Croix Eaugalla 249 Johnatta Hansonf 41 Norway
46331 Wisconsin St. Croix Eaugalla 249 Hans Hanson m 5 Norway
46332 Wisconsin St. Croix Eaugalla 249 John Hanson m 3 Norway
46333 Wisconsin St. Croix Eaugalla 249 Mattie Hanson f 1 Wisconsin
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