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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 15/02/2009 : 16:28:30
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Hi,
Eibache, Kåre, Kathy and the original poster may appreciate the corroboration of their research on John Ike's in-laws.
Volume II of Gerhard Naeseth's Norwegian Immigrants to the United States on page 61 on the passage of King Sverre in 1844 is found Lars Anderson Drøgsvold and his wife Anna Nielsdatter whom he married 25 Oct 1842.
Says they first settled in Pleasant Springs Township in Dane County, Wisconsin, moved to Wanamingo, Goodhue County, Minnesota in 1856 and in 1867 left Wanamingo no further destination given.
Children:
Anders b abt 1847
Niels b abt 1849 d bef 1860?
Ole b. 30 Aug 1851
Lars b. 2 June 1855
Johan b. 27 Oct 1857
Cornelius b. 13 Sept 1859
Sources for this information include: Historie om Udvandringen fra Voss og Vossingerne i Amerika, 583; Ættbok for Vossestrand 37, 54;
parish registers of Voss Norway; records of Holden Lutheran church in Goodhue County, Minnesota; 1850 Wisconsin census, 1860 Minnesota census.
Also it appears that Lars had a step-mother and 3 half brothers who came later also on the Kong Sverre in 1846. It further says on page 216 of Volume II Norwegian Immigrants that Lars' mother Synneva was born in 1792 to parents Ole Ingebriksen Sundve and Kari Eiricksdatter Arnetveit and Synneva died in 1827. Anders and Synneva married in 1812. Anders had 7 children with Synneva & married Marie Pedersdatter on 23 June 1828. Anders died in 1837.
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 15/02/2009 : 23:44:28
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Hi Jackie,
You find the best information! I found the family I believe in the Census.
1860 - Town of Wanamingo, County of Goodhue
Enumerated on July 13, 1860
Lewis Anderson, age 41, born in Norway, farmer
Ann Anderson, wife, age 37, born in Norway
Andrew, son, age 13, born in Wisconsin
Ole, son, age 9, born in Wisconsin
Lewis, son, age 5, born in Wisconsin
John, son, age 3, born in Minnesota
Cornelius, son, age 1, born in Minnesota
Betsy Alverson, age 16, born in Norway
1870 Censu - Mankato, Ward 2, Blue Earth
Lewis Anderson, age 45, born in Norway, day laborer
Annie Anderson, wife, age 40
Ole Anderson, son, age 18, born in Wisconsin, harness maker
Lewis Anderson, age 13, born in Wisconsin, at home
Nellie Anderson, age 21 (male), born in Wisconsin, works at elevator
John Anderson, age 13, born in Wisconsin
Cornelius Anderson, age 11, born in Minnesota
Caroline Anderson, age 11, born in Minnesota
Julius Anderson, age 6, born in Minnesota
Ohannes Anderson, age 4, born in Minnesota
I think the 1870 Census is the same family. I couldn't find any Lars Anderson family so then looked for them with the Cornelius Anderson. I have learned names can be different - Lars went by Lewis. Cornelius is less common so sometimes that works better. Still no closer on finding John Ike ealier tho! |
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 16/02/2009 : 00:40:30
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| Just rechecking the 1870 Census. Do not know if this could be the same family, birth years seem to be off quite a bit. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2009 : 01:18:46
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Hi Kathy,
Well, it may be the reason that the researchers of the Norwegian Immigrant book thought the son Nils was dead was because he didn't appear in the 1860 census, as you have also found. But the family from 1870 Blue Earth seem to be a better than 3 point match. And as you say, Cornelius is an uncommon name.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2009 : 19:44:05
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For the 2. time in two days another Norwegian Ike appear, Ole Olsen Ike from Stavanger partisipated in the civil war.
A strange coincidence or a connection?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2009 : 23:16:25
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Hmmm.. where is the author of this topic?? There are some loose threads that should be sorted out...
First of all; what are the sources for this info:- He was born near Oslo Norway in 1856.
- His mother died shortly after arriving in the US
- They lived near Osceola, Iowa.
This is what I believe:
His firstname in Norway is Johan
His father's last name is Hansen
He is born 01 Aug 1856
Emigration between 1865-1868
I don't think he took the lastname Ike from a man named Isaac whom they stayed at. My guess is that this family come from a farm named Eik in Norway.
And if it happens to be Akershus, you have a farm named Eik in Nannestad, Akershus. (Written "Eg" in census-1865)
I could not find any Johan born August 1st there, but there is one Johan born July 15th.
#106 Johan
Born 15 JUL 1856, chr 24 AUG 1856, Nannestad, Akershus
Parents: Thor Hansen & Inger Haagensdotter
It would be interesting to locate Johan Hanson Ike in census-1870 or 1875, to find his father and possibly siblings...
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Edited by - jwiborg on 17/02/2009 01:15:40 |
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 16/02/2009 : 23:31:18
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Hi,
I agree, not enough information. I have checked for a John Ike born in 1856 born in Norway and found nothing. I checked in the Iowa area listed and found nothing, even checked area with just the name "John" I have looked for a John Ike and a John Hanson, Hansen and have not had any luck. It makes is difficult with no siblings, parents to also check in census. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 00:13:39
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3 possibilities from the 1870 US-census:
John Hansen, Allamakee county, Iowa, born 1855
John Hanson, Renville county, MN, born 1856. Parents Hans Hanson (46) and Mary Hanson (46).
John Hanson, Preston, Fillmore county, MN, born 1857. Parents Moris Hanson (45) and Anna Hanson (38)
Jan Peter
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 00:48:49
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| I think the Renville County was the one we checked on earlier, but will check them all out. The other question is when John's mother passed away shortly after arriving. Should there be a wife in the 1870 Census or not? Another question is would John's family be in Minnesota? John was in Iowa and then Dakota Territory/South Dakota. Was he ever in Minnesota? Caroline was but who knows about John, where did they meet? I will check out the ones you have listed and the family from Norway (Thor and Inger) to see if they immigrated. I do believe you are right on the Ike name not being a first name he took, never heard of that in the States. I also checked for a John Eik in early census and nothing matched. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 00:57:58
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Yes, you checked out both the Johns from MN. But I still think these 3 are the best matches for John H. Ike in 1870.
Regarding the Minnesota track:
From "History of southeastern Dakota"
John H. Ike — contractor and builder; born in Norway in 1854.
Came to United States in 1865, and settled in Minnesota
Came to Brookings county in May, 1879, and to Volga Nov. 15, 1879.
Married Sept. 24, 1881, to Caroline Sophia Anderson.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 01:09:51
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Where is Caroline in census-1880? John is in Volga, Brookings, DT.
Jan Peter
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 01:20:03
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Hi,
Geography may come into play here...
There is a town and township called Osceola in Clarke County, Iowa and then there is the county of Osceola, Iowa. Clarke county is in the southern third of Iowa and the county of Osceola is on the border with Minnesota.
Records about John Ike which might be helpful if the original poster has are his naturalization records which might narrow down his departure time from Norway; an obituary which might mention other relatives of his; his death certificate; church record of his marriage which might contain more biographical info on him; confirmation record might also give his baptismal place.
Since John Ike's job in 1880 was "wagon-maker" and a few of Caroline's relatives were leather workers-shoemakers etc that may have been the initial reason to know about each other.
Are there any utflytte records from Nannestad covering 1865-1870?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 01:25:53
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Are there any utflytte records from Nannestad covering 1865-1870?
Jackie M.
Yes, here. Migration is right page.
Not easy to read though, and I don't have time to go through them...
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kathyzeien
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 01:32:28
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Hi,
I apologize, I was thinking Caroline was with the family in the 1800 census, and she was not. I also forgot the posting about John in Minnesota. Time to rethink and regroup!
The John's you mentioned are:
The ones in Renville are the one we already checked.
The John Hansen in Allamakke County, Iowa :
Ole Hansen, age 54 born in Norway
Annie, wife, age 54, born in Norway
Children all born in Norway listed are: Hans age 19, Antone age 11, Maretin age 17 and John age 15.
The John Hanson born in Preston, Fillmore, Minnesota:
Moris Hanson, age 45
Anna, wife, 38
John, age 13, Nicoline age 11, Bennetta age 9 and Betsy age 9. They are all born in Norway.
I also checked this morning for a Hans Kristoffersen and Dorthea Hansdatter you mentioned that could be a possibility for John Hansen. I looked up the 1865 Census from Nannestad Sokn, Akershus, Norway and found the family with children. Looked for them in the census in the United States and no luck. Tried to read the parish records but ink light and hard handwriting to read.
Will look somemore. No matter what we find the poster will need some verification from a death certificate or something to prove this.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/02/2009 : 01:41:11
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Earlier you found a private family tree under the name of Delgado on ancestry.com about John Ike.
There his birth is listed as Aug 1st, 1856 in Akershus. I wonder where that info come from... 
Btw; Johan born 15 JUL 1856 in Nannestad have atleast 3 siblings:
Jens Christian, chr 20 OCT 1844 Nannestad, Akershus
Christine, chr 21 MAR 1847 Nannestad, Akershus
Hans Jacob, chr 17 MAY 1849 Nannestad, Akershus
But I'm not convinced he is a good candidate...
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Edited by - jwiborg on 17/02/2009 01:48:00 |
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