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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  06:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I'm wondering what kind of record this "pass register" is and also what "Afsked som Tambour" means.

Are Norwegian inches (tomme) of this era the same size as American / English inches?

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=83&filnamn=ps06161856hall&gardpostnr=172&merk=172#ovre

Help with this will be much appreciated.

Jackie M.

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  09:56:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This passport journal from Hallingdal is for people from that area who applied for a passport to emigrate. Their destination was also often noted, especially if it was America.

"Afsked som Tambour 31 Decbr 1851" means that he was dismissed as drummer on Dec 31st, 1851. Most likely in the military.

The Norwegian tomme has varied somehow during history, but in the 1800's, it was equal to 2,61 cm, so his length was 167cm or 66 US inches.

Jan Peter
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2009 :  15:33:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jan Peter,

Thanks very much for the information. I tooled around this database a bit and found a few things such as the originals are at the archive in Kongsberg but I'm curious do you know which division of government handled these passports--judicial or executive or legislative or the church? The dates on the database documentation say 1856-1900, even though the heading says 1856-1865. Was there a law which began in 1856 which made these things important or required? Apparently, not everybody who left for America got a passport and there are a few people in the database that were more like itinerant tradesmen moving from one district in Norway to another.

Thanks for the help!

Jackie M.
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2009 :  02:03:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
starting from November 1st, 1805, it was the chief constable in the cities, and the bailiff on the countryside, who could issue passports. The senior officials who issued passports prior to 1805, was permitted to issue new passports until they resigned from their position.

A passport was mandatory for all foreigners who wanted to travel around the country, so the itinerant tradesmen you found in the database are most likely not Norwegian citizens.

Jan Peter
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/02/2009 :  05:10:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jan,

Thanks for the information. Executive branch it is. Looks like the "passport" for foreigners is more like a visa or a "green card" a permit or a license--but shouldn't these foreigners have had a passport from the country they are nationals of?

Anyway, many thanks for this....

Jackie M.
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