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Sher5564
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 Posted - 04/03/2009 : 18:51:52
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I am wondering about immigration and passenger lists as my great-grandparents came over from Vardal, Oppland County Norway. My Great-grandfather came in 1883 and my great-grandmother came about 1885. I would like to find the ship records showing when they came and what ship.
My great-grandfather was Hans Peter Nyhus born March 10, 1850 to parents Nils Olsen and Kari Hansdatter. My great-grandmother was Martha Nyhus (Marte Johannesdatter) born April 1, 1853, to parents Johannes Hansen and Mathea Hansdatter. Hans Peter and Martha were married in Norway on Feb. 4, 1877 in Vardal Church. The only dates for immigration I found came from the census records. Hans must have came over to the U.S. first and then Martha came with their four children at a later date. Any help would be appreciated. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 04/03/2009 : 19:13:05
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Hans Peter Nyhus (33) arrived Boston on May 14th, 1883 on the S/S Aleppo from the Cunard Line. Departure Liverpool.
Source: Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
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DALB
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2009 : 20:37:39
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I assume the children were
Clara b. May 7 1877, see #14
Nils b. Jan 27 1879, see #10
Maurits b. March 5 1881, see #7
Henrik b. Jan 24 1883, see
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Edited by - eibache on 05/03/2009 07:09:38 |
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Sher5564
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Posted - 04/03/2009 : 20:56:22
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Thank you for your help on the last two messages.
I was wondering does the information on Hans Peter mean that he departed on April 20, 1883 from Christiana, Norway on the Angelo going to Liverpool, England and then at Liverpool changed ships and boarded the S/S Aleppo to Boston, Massaschuetts arriving on May 14, 1883?
Do you think Martha and the children could have came at the same time, but are not listed?
I see on the digitalarivet site in the previous message that it says family group as being 1, so maybe they did not come together?
My grandfather was born in January 1883 in Norway so Martha would have had four very small children to care for on the ship if she went alone in 1885. |
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Sher5564
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Posted - 04/03/2009 : 21:10:55
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Yes, these were the names of the children of Hans Peter and Martha. Two children passed away in Norway they were Hjalmer and Maurits. The other four children; Clara, Inga, Nils and Henrik my grandfather came to the United States.
On the message posted from looking up the digitalarkivet the payment Hans Peter had was Ppd. Does this mean the passage was paid by him? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 00:57:13
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Census-1885 for Polk, Minnesota show this:
Hans P Nayhus b 1850
Ingri P Nayhus b 1852
Inga Nayhus b 1876
Clara Nayhus b 1878
Nels Nayhus b 1880
Hendrik Nayhus b 1883
Ole N Nayhus abt 1843
Not sure whether they all live in the same household... Is Ingri P = Martha?
And could Ole N Nayhus b 1843 be a brother of Hans? Ole could also be the sponsor of Hans' ticket in 1883. Ppd means pre-paid, so someone in America has paid for his ticket.
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eibache
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 07:21:30
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The baptismal record for Hans Peter shows birth date to be March 11, see #44
His parents and siblings at Nyhus in 1865
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Sher5564
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 14:30:52
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I clicked on the baptismal records for Hans Peter and records for the children using the tabs in the above messages and that was very special to see the actual records. Of course I cannot understand them, but I can see the names listed.
As for the message with the census mentioned, I only know about Martha and not Ingri P as being wife and mother for the family. Ole Christian or Kristian born July 22, 1840 was a brother to Hans Peter and came to the United States in 1881 so he could have paid the passage for Hans Peter. Ole and Hans lived on farms next to each other in rural Columbia Township, Fosston, Minnesota.
How can I find the Polk County 1885 census for Minnesota?
The spelling for their last name Nyhus is different from what I have seen before, I have seen it spelled Nyhuus sometimes. Also in some records Ole and maybe Hans are listed as Ole Nielsen Nyhus and sometimes Hans is listed as Hans Peter Nielsen. I know the Nielson is from their father, but they must have taken the name Nyhus from the farm they lived on.
Ole and Hans Peter had three sisters, Johanne Marie, Helene and Oleana, but I don't think they came to the United States.
I 'm not sure if Hans Peter then "borrowed"money from his brother Ole to pay for Martha and the children to come in 1885 or if Hans was able to work somewhere and get enough to pay for passage on the ship. |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 16:54:39
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Hjalmar was their first child and was born out of wedlock May 1 1873, see #75
Inga was born Dec 24 1874 and baptized March 29 1875, see #48
A note states that Inga was Marte Johannesdatters 2nd child born out of wedlock.
Hjalmar died Sept 6 1877, see #56
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 19:15:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Sher5564
How can I find the Polk County 1885 census for Minnesota?
Ancestry.com
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 19:27:36
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Any LDS Family History Center would also be able help you order microfilm(s) of the 1885 Minnesota state census for the area of Polk Co. The LDS library catalog makes it appear that Polk Co. might be filmed across two different reels - each film would cost approximately $5.50 US to order and use at the center.
If you are in Minnesota also check for availability through any Minnesota Historical society or similar.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnpolk/
There are printed inventories for the Minnesota state censuses of 1865, 1875, 1885, 1895, and 1905. These describe what counties are included for that year, lists the reel of microfilm on which a specific county may be found, and lists the order of the towns, townships, cities, etc. for each county. There is also a partial card index (incomplete even for the counties is does include) at the Minnesota Historical Society of the 1895 census covering only the counties of Aitkin, Anoka, Becker, Beltrami, and Big Stone.
Most of the Minnesota state censuses are available on microfilm through interlibrary loan and/or through any LDS Family History Center. Further information can be obtained by writing to Interlibrary Loan c/o Minnesota Historical Society.
Information collected in those censuses:
1875: Name; age; sex; color; birthplace (state or country); birthplaces of father and mother.
1885: Same information categories as 1875 but instead of parents’ birthplaces, notes if father and mother of foreign birth; plus deaf, dumb, blind, insane; soldier in Civil War.
1895: Same information categories as s 1885 plus length of residence in the state and the particular enumeration district (years and months) of males over age 21; occupation; months regularly employed in previous year; if previously enumerated in census; omits deaf, dumb, blind, insane.
1905: Same information categories as 1895 plus street address; birthplaces of father and mother (state or country); length of residence in the state and in the particular enumeration district for every person; service in Civil and Spanish-American wars.
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Sher5564
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 22:56:29
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I tried to look up the 1885 census, but I couldn't get that one. I will try to look on microfilm at a library when I get a chance.
I had looked previouly at the 1900 census dated June 4 and my grandfather Henry is listed as a servant in Crookston, Minnesota. There's where he is listed as arriving in the United States in 1885. Today I checked again with the 1900 census for my great grandfather Hans Peter in Columbia Township, Fosston, Minnesota. Henry is listed there also on June 18 census, but it says he came in 1884. Then I checked on 1910 census for Ole Nyhus, brother of Hans Peter and it looks like he came in 1883, but I thought he came in 1881. So until I find the ship and immigration records for my great-grandmother and the children, I won't know for sure when they arrived. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 23:17:48
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Originally posted by Sher5564
I tried to look up the 1885 census, but I couldn't get that one.
Click here
Ole N Nyhuus in 1900. Immigration year = 1880.
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Sher5564
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Posted - 05/03/2009 : 23:20:33
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In reference to the message from eibache on 3-5-09 I can understand a few of the words on the old records for Inga and Hjalmer,but could I ask if you would translate what other words are written across the page for the two children? Are the last names listed when looking them up?
I know that my great-grandparents weren't married when they had their first two children. I think Martha was living at a place called Overby and that this was a home for people who didn't have much money?
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DALB
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 01:51:59
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Could this be Hans' brother, Ole?
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=64&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=29237&merk=29237#ovre
Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930
Year Page Line no. Serial no. New family gr. Contract date Date of departure Given name Last name Marital status Family pos. Occupation Sex Age Domicile Destination
Line Ship Freight (kr) Freight (øre) Payment info. Nationality Permission
29237 1881 336 21 1379a 1 13.04.1881 15.04.1881 Ole Kristian Nils. Arb m 40 Vardal Barnesville M. A. Lea Cameo Betalt
His fare was also prepaid.
Marthe and the children's passage may not be posted online yet. The Oslo and Kristiania lists are not complete. If you have access to an LDS Library, they will have the films. Check for an index - it can save you a lot of time. Look for the adults name - generally the children were not listed individually in the index. |
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