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JimPaulson
Starting member
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 Posted - 31/03/2009 : 22:36:48
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Hello Geir,
I became a member to this web site over the weekend because I wanted to respond to your Barsness search. I am quite sure I have located a descendant of this family, and he would be a cousin to Alma and Delores. I am formerly a resident of Buffalo county Wisconsin and lived and worked in both the Mondovi and Eau Claire areas. Like the others who are trying so hard to help you find these descendants, I will have to do some digging and make some phone calls to get the family names, and current addresses of their living children.
Jim Paulson
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Geir Dybvig
Medium member
Norway
97 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 07:24:50
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Hi Jim.
This look great. If you can solve this problem you almost are an angel, because I have tryed to track this people since 1966.
Living in Norway and try to find someone in USA has'nt been easy.
Things have been easier, thanks to internett.
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JimPaulson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 20:21:30
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Hello again Geir,
I have some preliminary findings, but still have not located the living families. One reason for the difficulty is that John and Christine Barsness moved to Minnesota before they died.
They moved to Cass Lake, Minnesota. The zip code is 56633,
which is sometimes helpful to have. The county name is Cass.
Johns birth date is 13 July 1892 and died January 1975. Christine was born 30 March 1890 and died September 1964.
They were married in 1917 (according to their age at that time).
Christine surname was Bakkerud (farm) when married.
Johns parents were Thomas J. Barsness born 1848 and wife Julia born 1868 (I have not verified these dates but you probably have this already). The name Thomas or Tomas was sort of verified by a nephew of John. One further note on John: he had several siblings with given names of Christine, Eva, Rena, Mabel, Evangeline and Gerhard. The cousin I talked to is the son of Christine (Johns sister). I knew this Christine when I grew up in Buffalo County. Now, I saved some of the best for last, because this is what you really are looking for. At this time, all I have on Alma J is that she married a man named George Olson and have a son named Robert. I do not have anything on Delores. The key now is to find the obituaries for John and Christine, as was suggested by some other folks who were helping you. Those obituaries would be in Minnesota records.
I will look but you might find them before I do. I'll be in touch.
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Geir Dybvig
Medium member
Norway
97 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 07:26:36
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Hi Jim.
 Thanks a lot.
This was good new info's. The siblings of John I have, but it is good to have it confirmed. Now we knew that at least one of te girls get married and have decendants, but i think there is more than one Robert Olson in USA - so ther is still a way to go.
But thanks again Jim, great job. |
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Geir Dybvig
Medium member
Norway
97 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 08:25:48
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In the Minnesota Historical Society Death Certif. Search 1906 -2001 there is one John J Barsness birth 13 Jul 1892 in Minnesota, Death 9 Jan 1975 in Hubbard County.
Mothers maiden name: THUE.
This is first time I have seen her maiden name.
But there looks like John can have moved from Cass to Hubbart. I do not know if this was before or after Christine died. |
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Jon Paulson
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 12:30:09
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| There are some of the Barsness family members buried in the Thompson Valley Cemetery west of Mondovi, Wisconsin. I had an uncle who was somehow related to them. There is a woman in Eleva, Wisconsin that is a relative to them also, my father knows her. I will find out who she is and I will get out to the cemetery as soon as I can and get the names of those buried there. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 13:43:12
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Hi Geir & all,
Here is the Minnesota Death Index online listing for Christine Barsness who died in 1964:
BARSNESS, MRS CHRISTINE
Date of Birth: 30 Mar 1890
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: UNKNOWN
certid# 1964-MN-015809
Date of Death: 19 Sep 1964
County of Death: POPE
Does this information match what you already know about Christine?
Hilsen,
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Jon Paulson
Starting member
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 04:10:28
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Hallo Geir,
The woman that I wrote about is Dorothy "Barsness" Gunderson and she lives in Eleva, Wisconsin. She is Idy Barsness Hagness's grand-daughter. I am not sure who Idy's father was, but I will find out, I suppose her name was Ida. I will write more later. |
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JimPaulson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 07:04:01
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Hello Geir,
It's great there are so many to help uncover this mystery!
You questioned whether or not John and Christine had moved from Cass Lake to these other places. It is hard to tell, however,
Hubbard county is southwest and adjacent to Cass county, but Pope county is at least 100 miles or more southwest of Cass Lake, their home address. Hubbard and Pope are listed as the
county of death, but their home address was still Cass Lake.
My thoughts are John and Christine could have been staying with one of their daughters before passing on. There could be any number of reasons.
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Geir Dybvig
Medium member
Norway
97 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 12:10:51
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Yes, I am werry thankful for all of you who are engaged with this problem. And I think we will manage to solve it together.
Jackie M: The date of birth on Christine is right, so I will go for that this is the right person. I do think that the other of you agreed.
If we manage to find the right Robert Olson, and he is alive,we parhaps have the key to the mystery.
I am sure somebody out there knew, it's only to find the right person and get in contact.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 14:21:05
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Hi Geir & all,
Okay so Mrs. Christine Barsness'dc info matches what you previously had for Christine Bakkerud--that's good.
This may be something which mitigates against John Barsness (d in Hubbard). This is the Minn. death index listing for a Melvin Barsness whose mother's maiden name was Thue who died in Cass County, Minnesota. From his birthdate he should be included in the family in both 1900 and 1910 but Melvin is not a name found in other posts on this topic and birthplace of Minnesota might also be a problem.
BARSNESS, MELVIN
Date of Birth: 21 Jul 1894
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: THUE
certid# 1972-MN-006324
Date of Death: 22 Mar 1972
County of Death: CASS
Barsness is a fairly common name. Could there be more than one John Barsness / Christine combination? Pope County, Minnesota is the venue for a man named Jens P[ederson] Barsness so it might be a "family" thing. Dying in Hubbard county is not so unreasonable since there are probably medical facilities in more populated areas.
In the Minnesota death index there are 109 Alma Olsons listed and 29 Dorothys of any last name in Pope County. At the Minnesota Official marriages database there are about 240 marriages for both bride and groom of last name Barsness.
Probably the best thing to get for both Christine and John is their obituaries and possibly their death certs, to be able to accept or eliminate them.
Hilsen,
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Geir Dybvig
Medium member
Norway
97 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 18:44:59
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In some old notes I got from a person here in Norway there says:
*Andreas Bakkerud b. 5 july 1860 Vang in Norway. Emigtated to USA. Child: Christianna.
**Christianna Barsness , maiden Bakkerud b. 14 november 1893 + Johan Barsness. Children Alma June b. 14 november 1915, Delori b. 4 april 1925.
*** In Census 1930 they are in Eau Claire as John 37 year, married at 23 born WI. Christina 36 years, married at 22 born WI
Children Alma J 14 Years and Delores 4 11/12 years.
****1930 - 37=1893 John
1930 - 14=1916 Alma
1930 - 5 =1925 Delores
so far so good
1930 - 36 = 1894 Christina This match with b. 14 nov. 1893 but not with 30 mars 1890, so may be Christina who died in Pope not are the right person.  May be we have to go for an other Christina.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2009 : 00:22:24
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Hi Geir,
In the abbreviated version of Ancestry I have access to there are 4 John Barsness in the WWI draft registration cards. Men required to register are born between the 1ate 1870s up to 1900--so your John could be listed there. There is one John Barsness in Hubbard, state not shown, another in Buffalo state not shown, one in Wells, state not shown and a fourth in Sheridan, state not shown. I assume that Hubbard is Hubbard county, Minnesota, that Buffalo is Buffalo County, Wisconsin, and the Wells and Sheridan entries are from counties of those names in North Dakota. The John Barsness in Wells County was born 16 July 1894 in Lake Preston, S.D. (Official Roster of North Dakota Soldiers, Sailors and Marines in the World War 1917-1918; Volume 1, page 183)
If someone on forum has access to the full records they could check / collect the other birthdates.
Is your Andreas Bakkerud the And. Bakkerud who was married to Mrs. Aslang E. Langedal in Buffalo County, Wisconsin on 11 July 1891?
Regards the girls, since you have the exact birthdates these are the Almas with any surname of the birthdate of 14 Nov 1915 who are in the Social Security Death Index. Of course the requirements are that they must be dead and that they had a social security number:
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued Tools
ALMA V NOLAN 15 Nov 1915 03 Feb 1994 02859 (Pascoag, Providence, RI) (none specified) 035-30-8423 Rhode Island
ALMA ANDERSON 15 Nov 1915 26 Dec 1996 (V) 21223 (Baltimore, Baltimore City, MD) (none specified) 217-20-9805 Maryland
ALMA M NOLAN 15 Nov 1915 15 Feb 2002 (V) 32210 (Jacksonville, Duval, FL) (none specified) 266-42-1890 Florida
ALMA STANLY 15 Nov 1915 10 Aug 1990 (not specified) (none specified) 403-68-1922 Kentucky
ALMA LAHRMANN 15 Nov 1915 11 Apr 1999 (V) 77053 (Houston, Harris, TX) (none specified) 451-54-1690 Texas
ALMA G STEPHENS 15 Nov 1915 11 Dec 1999 (V) 78247 (San Antonio, Bexar, TX) (none specified) 467-10-4370 Texas
ALMA M TURNBULL 15 Nov 1915 29 Dec 1997 (P) 97801 (Pendleton, Umatilla, OR) (none specified) 543-26-2874 Oregon
ALMA L PERRY 15 Nov 1915 31 Oct 1996 (V) 93304 (Bakersfield, Kern, CA) (none specified) 563-30-1850 California
and Delores any surname born 4 Apr 1925:
DELORES ALICEA 04 Apr 1925 05 May 1999 (V) 34771 (Saint Cloud, Osceola, FL) (none specified) 121-28-2916 New York
DELORES E LAUDICK 04 Apr 1925 05 Feb 2004 (V) 87942 (Williamsburg, Sierra, NM) 87935 (Elephant Butte, Sierra, NM) 305-26-7031 Indiana
DELORES ACHTENBERG 04 Apr 1925 Jul 1978 90028 (Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified) 388-48-0436 Wisconsin
DELORES V AKSET 04 Apr 1925 27 Dec 2003 (V) 56649 (International Falls, Koochiching, MN) (none specified) 502-44-9819 North Dakota
DELORES M FOSTER 04 Apr 1925 25 Feb 2000 (V) 99114 (Colville, Stevens, WA) (none specified) 536-16-7744 Washington
Delores Akset could probably be eliminated since the online obit for in in the Internation Falls newspaper gives her maiden name as Anderson.
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Jon Paulson
Starting member
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2009 : 03:01:09
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Hi Gier,
I have found John Barsness, son of Thomas and Julia, in 1905 census, Buffalo County, Wisconsin.
Also, Christina Backrud, daughter of A.R. and Olive, in 1905 census, Dover, Buffalo County, Wisconsin.
John's birth is about 1893 and Christina's is about 1894.
John Barsness in Mondovi, Buffalo County in 1910.
John and Christine and Alma in Albion, Trempealeau County in 1920.
John and Christine, Alma and Deloris in Eau Claire County in 1930. All of these census reports are Wisconsin. Buffalo, Trempealeau and Eau Claire counties border eachother.
I will keep looking.
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Jon Paulson
Starting member
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2009 : 14:06:00
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Hi again, Gier,
I just found this Minnesota death index for Hennepin County, Minnesota.
Delores J. Fontaine
Birth: 8 Apr 1925
Death: 19 May 1984
Mother's maiden name: Backrud
I think I will see what I can find regarding the name Fontaine, although it is harder to find documents made after 1930.
I hope this helps.
Jon |
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