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Juanita Kronen
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USA
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Posted - 06/06/2009 :  23:30:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In an earlier post Kċre had mentioned how Tore Ims' son had taken the Benkestok name. Would Kċre or others know if Tord Benkestok is in the same line as Tollef Trondson Benkestok? Tollef was married to Adelus Kruckow and I believe (please correct me if i'm wrong) originated in Sogn og Fjordane around mid 1400.


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Kċarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2009 :  11:09:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Tord/Torleif/Tollef Tordsson Benkestok was liklely same person, first name spelled different in various occacions, married likely Adelus Kruckow (Adelutz Eriksdatter? Kruckow) from Kroken, Luster in Sogn born about 1450.
If Adelus was a Kruckow-widow when she married Benkestok or boen Kruckow I dont know, information, some contradictionary, is coming up online "every day" so it´s difficult to be 100% sure since mostly the familynames were used.
Luster municipality was about to use the same coat of arms as Kruckow, but another was choosed.

Adelus mother was most likley from the upper nobilities from Smĝr /Kane family

The Norwegian Kruckow family liklely came from Pommern aboot 1380 since the coat of arms is simulare in both families, blue shield with a Unicorn in silver, two red beams and a helmet with three feathers from the Peacock, see down here

The Benkestok family

Adelus in 4 family trees, all looks honest to me (not confirned) here and here, this one from 2008 here and as Adelus Erikriksdatter Kruckow here

Arne Kvitrud has done a great work with the Kruckow family, from 1998, where he is referring to documents (sorry but only in Norwegian), Adelus is mentioned almost on top after headline;
Krockow-er mellom 1453-1505 here

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 18/11/2010 10:08:36
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Juanita Kronen
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Posted - 07/06/2009 :  13:59:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good information provided! The name Tord/Trond/Torleff Benkestok appears in relation to the Kronen's from Luster. I had always been confused when it came to the history of Torleff Benkestok & Adelus Kruckow. Now I know there is contradictory information out there and it just wasn't my inability.

You are a good educator, I understand the relationships more clearly.

Sorry to get off topic on the immediacy of the Ims.


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Alfons Ims
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Germany
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Posted - 07/06/2009 :  14:44:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello

no problem to be somehow off road of my original question - for me it's also interesting

But did I got it right:

The son of Tore Ims was

Tord/Torleif/Tollef Tordsson Benkestok married Adelus Kruckow (Adelutz Eriksdatter? Kruckow) from Kroken, Luster in Sogn born about 1450?

Regards
A.L.I.
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 07/06/2009 :  16:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,
I think this Tord/Torleif Tordsen Benkestok born about 1450 married to Adelus Kruckow born about 1460 was 4 generation after Tore Ims born about 1335.

Kċre

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Alfons Ims
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Posted - 07/06/2009 :  17:51:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Juanita Kronen
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USA
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  07:51:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you established the fact that your ancestors do indeed have origins in Norway... If so what time period?


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Alfons Ims
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Germany
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  10:10:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still don't know and I'm still look for hints
Thanks for the question
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richardims
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USA
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Posted - 28/04/2020 :  01:40:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,
I'm new to the forum. Anyone still active?
My last name is also Ims. Currently in Arkansas, USA.
I thought my heritage was German possibly.
Just looking to converse. Thanks!

Richard Ims
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2020 :  02:51:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a farm named Ims in Rogaland County in Norway so the possibility exists that your name derive from that farm name. Going back to your Ancestors, who is the person further back in time with the name Ims that you know of.
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