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Kåarto
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 Posted - 23/05/2009 : 11:41:05
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The wedding record for Kristen Kristensen and Guro Nilsdatter from 1733 in Grindem (Grindheim) church from 1724, hard to read, abbreviation, bad ink.
Left margin you´ll see Grindem and Støle.
Next column after Grindem you will see the date for the wedding; D: 4te Past Trinit (Dominica 4 past Trinitates) 4. Sunday after Whitsun; June 28.
Further down here last two lines before Støle you will read:
Christen Christensen og (and) Gurro Nielsdatter
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Edited by - Kåarto on 23/05/2009 11:50:13 |
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debhatland
Starting member
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Posted - 23/05/2009 : 15:37:39
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thank you for all your great help. My parents died when i was 12. Finding information from living family
members is hard. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/05/2009 : 18:05:41
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I am sorry to hear that, they must have left a lot of information on the ancestors in Norway, all your informaton correspond.
The church books and 1801 censuses for Etne if you want to do look ups, change census by click on same areas on top line.
When using the censuses, start with one or two letters too see how a name is spelled, always use contains. As for given name Osmund/Aasmund, he was spelled Usmund; by using contains mund it was was how I was able to find him.
When was your g.grandfather born? Try to look for him, if its dificult first time you will get help here.
I have been working with Stødle from the middelage and earlier some years ago, this is my first wisit to the 1700-1800 Stødle, interesting.
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debhatland
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 00:20:07
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this is what i have for my family
I do have the ship information
I just don't know anything about them
My great grandfather was Tor Torsson Gjerde born Etne 1830 died 1902 USA
was the son of Tor Torsson Gjerde Born 1794 and Lisbet Jonsdatter (-dotter) Gjerde Born 1803 died 1885
and married Kristi Bardsdtr Vagen daughter of Bard Erickson Vagen 1802-1880
parish of Olen and married 1823 Kristi Torsdatter, Hustveit Born about 1791- 1865..
Kristi Bardsdatter married Jon Torsson Gjerde from Eten moved to Longhammerplasset under Hetland in Olen
Children:
Tor Jonsson born Gjerde in Etne in 1857
Elisabeth Kristine Jonsdatter born Vagen 1860
Brita Serine Jonsdatter Born on Hetland in 1862
Bard (my grandfather) jonsson born on Vagen in April 14 1865
THAN 11 DAYS AFTER BARD WAS BORN LEFT FOR THE USA
Helena Hatland born in Usa
Juila Hatland born USA
John Hatland Jr USA
Erick Hatland USA
ANNA Hatland USA
gggg grandparents Tor Torjornsson born 1754 Stodle married Asjerd Jacobsdtr
ggggg grandparents Kristen Kristensson born 1702 Stodle Married
Guro Nilsdtr Nes 1706 have the childrens information |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 00:47:02
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Hi Deb, I think Tor Torsen (Thor Thorsen) Gjerde was born July 12. 1826, baptised in Grindem church Jyly 16.
Parents: Thor Thorsen and Lisbeth Jonsdatter "Husfolk" tenant farmers under Gjerde.
Godparents: Ole and Guri Auestad, John Lilledalen and Helge and Anne Gjerde.
Bottom left page #10
It´s about one hour passed midnight, so.....
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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2009 01:00:44 |
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debhatland
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 01:46:34
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Hi kare it's 645pm here in Iowa so good night to you
And thank you for the information I will print it and keep it
I have a new famiy tree maker 16 that i am goin to download and start working on my stuff
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 07:54:32
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Lisbet was born on Gjerde 1803, christened Mai 6.
Only the father Joen Gierde is mentioned, right page 4. from bottom:
6 Mai Gierde Døbt Joen Gierdes Barn som blev kaldet Lisbet
Mai 6. Joen Girdes child named Lisbet.
Godparents: Captain Weltzin, Knud Gierde, Ole Olsen Gierde, Margaret Johanesdatter Gierde and Kari Gierde. Here
Strange, a younger brother to Tor Torsen Gierde was born Oct. 14. 1840, baptised Oct. 18:
Thor Gierde born to Thor Thorsen and Lisbet Jonsdatter Gierde.
Godparents; Lars Joensen, Rasmus Flaaten, Siri Do (Flaaten), Siri og Britta Gierde.
Left page #12
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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2009 07:58:34 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 08:29:05
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Thor Thorsen age 32 was from Lilledalen when he married Lisbeth Jonsdatter age 23 from Gierde in Gjerde church on Jan. 6. 1826.
Best men; Ole Olsen Gierde and Erik Jonsen Haugen "Gaardbruger" Farmer. Right page bottom #1
All your information correspond.
Thor was born 1794 on Lilledal, christened June 10 (his father, not mentioned here, was Thor Torbjørnsen Kambe/Støle/Lilledalen), 4. and 5. column from left, 4. from bottom #8;
Godparents; Tierrand Ouchland, Johanes Liledahl, Ingeborg Ouestad, Madillo Oensteen, Waljer Halvorsdr?.
Thor Torbjørnsen was christend "Three kings/Three Wise Men/Epiphani", Sunday Jan 27. 1754 born to Thorbjørn Kristensen Støle.
Left side left page 7-8-9 line from top:
Dom. 3th Post Ephihanian (3. Sunday after Epiphani) Torbjørn Christensen Søn (Son) Thor
Thorbjørn Christensen was born on Støle, christened Dom. promo Adventus, 1. Sunday in Advent , Nov.29. in Stødle chuch 1733.
"Døbt" Christened Christen Christensen Støle "sin søn" Son , right side 21-22 line from top here
For more pictures from Stødle church, click on OK, left side
Ølen (Olen) and Etne is located to the southern part of Hordaland county
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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2009 11:47:33 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 11:09:14
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Some information from Støle and Gjerde from the Saga before I continue.
Bjørn from Støle was a handpicked soldier on the big ship Ormen Lange in the battle of Svolder in the year 1000. Ormen consited of 34 rooms, Bjørn fought in "Forrommet", the room on front of the mast.
In 1030 Lendmann "County governor" Erlend from Gjerde turned against the king and partissipated in the uprising army in the Battle of Stiklestad against King Olav II Haraldson of Norway. Erlend fall in the battle.
Around I820-30 a Runic stone was found in the stone fence at Gjerde church, on one of the sides it´s engraved: Erlend made this Runes after (to honor) Olve (his) father. The stone is dated to about 1100 so it´s a younger,unknown Erlend Gjerde.
1115 Erlend´s Ggrandson Erling Kyrpinga-Ormsson Skakke was born on Stødle,he fall on Kalvskinnet, the garden at Nidarosdomen in Trondheim in the civil war (1140-1240) against King Sverre Sigurdsson on June 19. 1179.
Erlings Skakke´s son Magnus Erlingsson was born on Støle 1151, king of Norway from 1161, Magnus fall against king Sverre at the battle of Fimreite June 15. 1184.
The old part of Stødle chuch was Erling Skakkes private chapel.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 13:29:07
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This is where your family name Hatland is coming from Deb.
John Thorsen and Christi Baardsdater maried in Ølen March 26. 1856.
"Ungkarl og Husmandsøn" Bachelor and Cottagers son John Thorsen Hatland and Gjerde in Etne og "Pige" Maid Christi Baardsdatter.
Fathers; Thor Thorsen gjerde and Baard Eriksen Vaagen.
Best men; Erik Halvorsen Gjerde and Ole Johannesen from Gjerde.
Left page down #1
The first born son Thor was born on Gjerde in Etne Mai 12, baptised Mai 21. 1857 #38
John Thorsen born Jan 23, baptised Jan 31. 1830 #9 (godparents; Lars Johanesen Flaaten, Søren Sigurdsen and Borghild Gjerde) and Thor Thorsen born 1826 had 11 siblings, all born on Gjerde;
Lisbeth born 1823, Siri born 1828, Asgjerd born 1832, boychild born-died 1834, Guro born 1836, Siri born 1838, girlchild born-died 1838 (Twin), Thor born 1840, Helge born 1843, Torbjørn born 1845 and Ole born 1846
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debhatland
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 15:13:01
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I think I am confused children of Tor and Lisbet,, Tor born 1826 than Jon born 1830 and married Kristi Baardsdatter am i confused ? :)
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi Deb, I think Tor Torsen (Thor Thorsen) Gjerde was born July 12. 1826, baptised in Grindem church Jyly 16.
Parents: Thor Thorsen and Lisbeth Jonsdatter "Husfolk" tenant farmers under Gjerde.
Godparents: Ole and Guri Auestad, John Lilledalen and Helge and Anne Gjerde.
Bottom left page #10
It´s about one hour passed midnight, so.....
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 17:26:19
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No wonder one can be cofused with so many Thor, Thorsen and Thorsdatter, it´s easy to get lost.
I don´t know what happend to Thor Thorsen born 1826, it was his brother John Thorsen Hatland born 1830 on Gjerde who married Christi Baardsdatter Vaagen from Ølen.
First born son Thor Johnsen was born on Gjerde 1857, next child was a daughter, Elisabeth Christine Johnsdatter born on Vaagen in Ølen to John Thorsen Vaagen and Christi Baardsdatter Jan. 26, baptised Feb. 5. 1860 #8.
Next child was a boy, John born on Hetland in Ølen Jan. 26, baptised Feb. 9. 1862, parents John Thorsen Hetland and Christi Baardsdater #11 (Brita Serine born 1862 not found).
Lastborn child was Baard Johnsen born on Vaagen in Ølen April 13, baptised April 23. 1865, parents John Thorsen Vaagen and Christi Baardsdatter #20
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eibache
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 17:39:29
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Next child was a boy, John born on Hetland in Ølen Jan. 26, baptised Feb. 9. 1862, parents John Johnsen Hetland and Christi Baardsdater
Kåre, I read the parents as John Torrisen (Thorsen) Hetland and Christi Baardsdatter. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 17:50:47
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I saw that, it was a wrongspelling from me, easy to get lost.
I didn´t reach to correct it before you answered.
I think it´s written Torresen Hetland instead of Torsen Hetland, not unusual, the names was spelled how they spoke.
I have seen Torsen, Thorsen, Thoresen and Torresen used for the same person, very common.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2009 17:55:29 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2009 : 21:23:01
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I didn´t notice your reply Einar, Sorry.
Emigration record from Fjelberg/Ølen April 24. 1865 for "Ægtefolkene" Married couple John Thorsen Vaagen born in Etne and Kristi Bardsdatter age 30 and three children, Elisabeth Kristine, Britta Serine and Baard, dest Nordamerica, right page #21-26.
Confusing, see my former posting:
Britta Serine is mentioned born on the same day as John;
Jan 26. 1862.
Was it a wrongspelling, should John have been Britta Serine or contrary ? Where is oldest son Thor Johnsen born on Gjerde 1857. Did he stay, died young or was he forgotten inthe emigration record.
Do you have any ide Deb.
Christine Baardsdatter´s parents married Mai 1853 (no date) in Fjelberg, Ølen, top left page #1
Baar Erichsen "Gaardbruger" Farmer from Strandvaagen age 20,5 and Christie ThoresDatter from Huustvedt age 30.
Fathers: Eric and Thor.
Nice name Strandvaagen, Beach bay, located to the seaside.
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Kristen (Christenson) Kristensson
