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Dennis Hubbard
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 Posted - 20/06/2009 : 06:51:21
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Could I get some help with spelling theses names?
I have seen Bertinus, Bertheninus, Bertinius, Berternus Bertinia. And Foletta, Tallate, Tellete for his wife. They were born in Norway 1864/65 and emigrated in 1883.
What would the most common spelling be for these two?
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Dennis
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 08:22:15
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Would be nice if you can supply some more info, where they were born, last name etc.
Checking the parish records will give the best result., need more info to do that. |
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Edited by - eibache on 20/06/2009 08:29:15 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 10:24:05
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There are many different variations for the two names, here are the most common spellings:
Berthinejus, Bertines, Bertinius, Bertinnius, Bertinus, Berthinnius, Berthinus.
Talete, Tallette, Tallethe, Taletta, Talette, Taletthe, Thalete, Thalethe, Thalette, Thaletta.
I have two interesting candidates from the 1865 census, both from the same parish, Lunde in Rogaland county:
Bertinius Helgesen age 5 on farm Skailand (actually he was born 1864) and Talette Askildsdatter age 2 (born 1864) on farm Birkemo
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 11:05:47
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Bertinius Helgesen from the Skailand farm must be the correct one. He emigrated in 1883.
Bertinius Helgesen
Born: 08 AUG 1864
Chr: 28 AUG 1864, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Parents: Helge Johannesen & Berte Kristensen
Other children of Helge Johannesen & Berte Kristensen:
Kristian Helgesen, born 27 NOV 1851, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Johannes Helgesen, born 06 AUG 1853, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Ingeborg Guri Helgesdr, born 20 FEB 1856, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Ingeborg Lovise Helgesdr, born 19 AUG 1858, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Helge Helgesen, born 08 AUG 1861, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Lars Helgesen, born 20 SEP 1867, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Rakel Helgesdr, born 24 MAR 1871, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 13:54:47
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Here is Bertinius Helgesen Skailand (#15) and sister Ingeborg Lovise Helgesdr Skailand (#14),
listed as emigrating to America in 1883.
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eibache
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 14:17:23
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quote:
Born: 08 AUG 1864
Chr: 28 AUG 1864, Heskestad in Lund, Rogaland
Parents: Helge Johannesen & Berte Kristensen
parish record says Helge Johannesen & Berthe Kristensdatter - knitpicking?
Talettes baptismal record is #20
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Edited by - eibache on 20/06/2009 14:20:57 |
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Dennis Hubbard
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 17:58:13
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Wow! I received a lot more than I asked for.
Thank you all for the info. They look to be the family I asked about.
On Talette's death certificate it lists her father as Askel Tenneson and mother as Anna. and Talette's birthday as 6 May 1864 (Maybe wrong?)
I don't have any other dates or places for Bertinius. On his death certificate it says born 1874 and I know it's wrong because they were the same age as listed in several US censuses. Should be 1864. (typo)
I wonder if someone could find a marriage record for them and an emigration record for Talette. I'm thinking maybe they were married in Norway and emigrated together?
They were from the Comorant, Becker Co., Minnesota area.
Thanks again
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 20:12:11
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Hi,
Bertinius Helgesen Skailand (19) is listed as a Bachelor when he emigrates in 1883. Census-1910 for Becker, MN list Talette's immigration year as 1887.
Burtine Halgeson b 1865, imm 1883
Lillete Halgeson b 1865, imm 1887
Bennie Halgeson b 1897
Theodore Halgeson b 1899
Tillie Halgeson b 1900
Clarence O Halgeson b 1904
Inga E Halgeson b 1905
Clera E Halgeson b 1907
Celler A Halgeson b 1909
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eibache
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 20:16:11
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quote:
On Talette's death certificate it lists her father as Askel Tenneson and mother as Anna. and Talette's birthday as 6 May 1864 (Maybe wrong?)
Askel Tenneson is definately an american way of speaking/writing Askild Tønnesen, and yes her mother was Anna Ellingsdatter - both parents as written in the baptismal record refered to earlier. Talette was born May 2 1864 and baptized May 16 same year.
Talette, her parents and sibling in 1865
Talettes parents were married July 14 1849, see #6
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Edited by - eibache on 20/06/2009 20:42:36 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 20:20:13
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The 1900 census shows that they married about 1887.
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Dennis Hubbard
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 20:46:16
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Hi Jan Peter,
Thanks for the info.
Where did you find the 1900 and 1910 Becker censuses? All I could find was 1895, 1905 and 1920 censuses in ancestry.com. I was able to save the 1900 census from your message. Could you point the way to the 1910 census so I can save it to file?
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eibache
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 20:48:23
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Askild Tønnesen was born April 25 and baptized April 27 1828, see #2
his parents were Tønnes Olsen and Ingebor Askildsdatter.
Anna Ellingsdatter was born April 16 1829 and baptized April 20, see #6
her parents were Elling Jacobsen and Kari Gundleksdatter.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 20:53:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis Hubbard
Hi Jan Peter,
Thanks for the info.
Where did you find the 1900 and 1910 Becker censuses? All I could find was 1895, 1905 and 1920 censuses in ancestry.com. I was able to save the 1900 census from your message. Could you point the way to the 1910 census so I can save it to file?
Thanks, Dennis
Did you search using the indexed names?
1900: Burtemar Halgeson
1910: Burtine Halgeson
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Dennis Hubbard
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 21:26:00
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Hi Jan Peter,
Sure, they come right up when searched for the transcribed name. I think Ancestry should have found them long before the hundreds of other names that came up.
But, thank you very much for all the info.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 21:40:42
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Hi, this topic went well.
We only miss Talette´s emigration record now, remember not all were recorded.
The confirmation records for Bertinius Helgesen, Oct. 5. 1870 and Talette Askildsdatter, Oct. 13. 1878 are recorded on the same page, she lived on Birkemoe, Bertinius on the same farm he was born on, Skailand, see # 13 & 2
Both the baptism and confirmation ceremonies were taken place in Lund church (Heskestad sub parish where Bertinius and Talette were born didn´t got a church before 1904)
Lund municipality and Heskestad sub parish south-east at lake Lundevann in Rogaland County, south-west in Norway,
see here
Information and photos from Lund
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Dennis Hubbard
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 19:13:20
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quote:
Originally posted by eibache
Askild Tønnesen was born April 25 and baptized April 27 1828, see #2
his parents were Tønnes Olsen and Ingebor Askildsdatter.
Anna Ellingsdatter was born April 16 1829 and baptized April 20, see #6
her parents were Elling Jacobsen and Kari Gundleksdatter.
Question: Is farm Birkemo same as Birkemon? As for Askil #2 and Anna #6. They were born on same farm? What is definition of "farm" as in "Birkemo"? |
Dennis
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Bertinus and Tellete Helgeson (name spelling)
