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Edd-Magne Torbergsen
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Norway
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 Posted - 15/08/2009 : 22:15:01
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My father’s uncle Hilmar Olaus Pedersen, born in Norway 26.4.1884 in Trondenes went to US in 1903.
3 of his brothers did also go to US. One lived in St. Paul and 2 others in Seattle. Hilmar worked in construction activities, building bridges aso. Last time the family heard from him was in 1919, his sister in Norway got a letter from him, he was then working at great bridge, later she heard that there was an accident at this bridge, several persons died. Bothe the family in St. Paul, Seattle and Norway tried to find something about Hilmar. The Salvatore Army tried to find him with no success. All his brothers and sisters died without any information about their loved brother Hilmar.
Some years ago I got a message from US that some information about Hilmar was found at Social Death Index. Hilmar died in Duluth in Minnesota in 1968 (Social Index 474-03-1940). Information from US tells us that this is the right Hilmar.
I have tried to find something about Hilmar with no success. Was he married? Did he have a family? Where did he live aso? I want to find out something about his live during periods from 1919 to 1968.
His brother lived in St Paul. He didn’t know anything about his brother lived in Duluth.
Is there any one in US who can help me with the history about Hilmar?
With best greetings from Norway
Edd-Magne Torbergsen |
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kathyzeien
Medium member
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Posted - 16/08/2009 : 00:24:15
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Hi,
Checking on Ancestry.com there is the Hilmar O. Pedersen listed as being born 4-28-1884 and death as March 1968 for Duluth, St. Louis County, Minnesota. I haven't been able to find anything else as of yet but will keep looking. There are a lot of people that help on this site that amazingly find things. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/08/2009 : 05:03:25
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Here is one candidate for your Hilmar Pedersen. The name is similar, birth year and immigration year are close. This is from the 1910 US Census.
Name: Helmer Peterson
Age in 1910: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Duluth Ward 6, St Louis, Minnesota
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1904
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kathyzeien
Medium member
116 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2009 : 05:38:47
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Hi,
Not as many Hilmar Pedersen's in the census as I thought would be.
I found a Helmer Pedersen in the 1920 Census and 1930 Census in Petersburg, 1st Judicial District, in Alaska. Listed are
1920 Census-
Helmer Pedersen, age 36, born in 1884, immigrated 1904, occupation is fisherman. He has a wife named Annie who is 32 and born about 1888 in Norway and a son named Herman, age 2 who was born in 1918 in Alaska.
1930 Census also in Petersburg, Alaska:
Helmar Pederson, age 46, born in Norway along with wife Annie who is 41. Children listed are Herman, age 12, born in Washington, Lloyd, age 8 who was born in Washington and Palmer who is 6 and born in Alaska.
Quite a stretch from Minnesota to Alaska and back tho.
Do you know where Hilmar was at when the bridge accident happened? As I said, not a lot of Hilmar Pedersen's in the census.
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Edd-Magne Torbergsen
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2009 : 12:01:15
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Thanks a lot dear colleges, some more information about Hilmar.
He wasn’t married in Norway and has no children in Norway.
He went from Norway to US 20.11.1903 with the boat Tasso. He was unmarried and registered as a fisherman. The ticket was prepaid from US and the travel was to Halifax in Canada??
I do not know where the railroad bridge accident was.
Hilmar’s father was Peder Olai Bruun Johannessen, born 14.01.1840, his mother was Ingeborg Marie Olesdtr born 19.01.1851, all born at Sandstrand in Trondenes.
Hilmar’s brothers in US were:
• Ole Andreas Kristian Pedersen, born 18.07.1872, died 01.02.1950 in Chippeva Falls, Wisc US.
• Robert Nikolai Pedersen, born 26.04.1886, died on his first trip back to Norway 25.08.1959. He lived in Seattle and together with his brother Simon they were fishermen in Seattle.
• Simon Hilde Pedersen, born 06.06.1890, died in Seattle 14.01.1982.
Ole Pedersen went to US 19.06.1901, he went by the boat Tasso traveling to Bruse in Wisconsin. Did he prepay the ticket to Hilmar?
Many of those who travelled from Sandstrand/Trondenes went to Chippeva Falls and started there.
Some years ago I got a mail from US (I had a dialog with one on mail from Minnesota, sorry, all this mail are lost). He told me that he had found Hilmar’s US citizen certificate (from 1932?) and there he had written the name at his mother and father, which was correct.
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kathyzeien
Medium member
116 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2009 : 20:33:44
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HI,
Searching today in the Ancestry.com I found the following:
List of Manifest of Alien Passenger for the Commissioner of Immigration - SS Isuian sailing from Liverpool 26 Nov. 1903 arriving at port of Halifax N.S.
Hilmar O. Pederson, age listed as 19 but then has a cross through it and 24 written. Listed as a fisherman going to brother Ole Pedersen in Bruce, Wis.
Underneath that is a Kristian Sorbergsen also going to a friend in Bruce, Wisconsin.
It caught my eye because in the 1930 Cenus I listed in previous posting there is a sister-in-law living with that Helmer Pederson family whose name is Amanada Stornerson. The names are not exactly the same but close. Maybe I am on a wild goose chase, but will try to find more. The Amanda has her age listed as 32 and born in Norway. Does that last name sould familiar with the area the Pedersen's were from? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/08/2009 : 03:10:46
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In the Social Security Death Index for Hilmar Pedersen a few things can be learned.
Name: Hilmar Pedersen
SSN: 474-03-1940
Last Residence: 55802 Duluth, Saint Louis, Minnesota, United States of America
Born: 28 Apr 1884
Died: Mar 1968
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota (Before 1951)
His number begins with 474 which indicates a place within northern Minnesota. The data also indicate that it was issued in Minnesota before 1951. His last residance before he died is listed as Duluth Minnesota although the Minnesota Death Index differs slightly and lists Carlton County as the place where he died. Carlton County is just south of Duluth.. All of this data points to him having spent a major part of his life if not all of his adult life in and around Duluth.
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kathyzeien
Medium member
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Posted - 17/08/2009 : 04:40:33
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Hi,
I also found his death date you mentioned but was wondering why the birth date is different. It is the same on Ancestry as on the online Minnesota death index. Still a mystery why he cannot be found in the 1920 census and 1930 census. I have looked on county genealogy sites to cemetery listings in every imaginable place I could think. I wish he could be found. |
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/08/2009 : 04:49:47
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The Minnesota Death certificate has a listing for Hilmar. You can search for it Click Here. You can order his death certificate on line. It could list if he was married and her name. The person providing the information could be a son or daughter.
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Edd-Magne Torbergsen
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 17/08/2009 : 08:45:53
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You give me interesting information about Hilmar. During years the family wondered what happen to Hilmar. All had accepted that he was dead. I therefore was surprised when I was told that he was living until 1968. He is a mysterious man.
Hilmar was born 26.04.1884; in Soc D Index says he is born 28.04.
In 1903 there were several people from Hilmar’s home place who went to US together. One of them was Kristian Torbergsen (not Sorbergsen), so the information from kathyzeien is correct.
Ole Pedersens wife was Albertine, born in 1873. She went to US in 1909, they lived in Chippeva Falls rest of their life.
I do hope we can solve the mystery about Hilmar, but I have to trust on you my dear volunteer friends over there. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/08/2009 : 16:09:06
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Hi,
what about this guy? He lives in Duluth, is married to a woman named Borghild, and have sons named Walter and Harry.
Census-1920 for Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota:
Halner Peterson b 1885, imm 1906
Borhild Peterson b 1893, imm 1910
Walter Peterson, b 1919
Harry Peterson, b 1919
Census-1930 for St Louis, Minnesota:
Hjalmar Peterson, b 1885
Borghild Peterson, b 1891
Walter Peterson, b 1915
Harry B Peterson, b 1920
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kathyzeien
Medium member
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 01:54:48
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Hi,
Good job! That very well could be a possibility. I will do some searching tonight and see if I can find anything on this family. I was concentrating so hard on the various spellings on the last name. I probably should have tried more variations on the first name. Would be a nice mystery to solve for the family. Kathy |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 02:34:34
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| Also, I wil be at the Minnesota Historical Society Library this week for some research on family members and so I will pull the microfilm with Hilmar's death certificate and copy it. I will report on what is in it this week. If we are lucky we will find some family members or at least an address. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9284 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2009 : 03:05:06
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Here is the World War I draft registraion card for Hjalmar Peterson with wife Borghild. The birth date is off slightly. It gives his address as 5223 Glendale Street, Duluth MN.
Name: Hjalmar Peterson
City: Duluth
County: St Louis
State: Minnesota
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1884
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 03:24:24
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Here is the Minnesota Death Certificate Index for the Hjalmar born 28 Oct 1884. Does not look too promising for him to be the Hilmar Pederson since he died in 1962.
Name: Hjalmar Peterson
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1884
Death Date: 28 Jun 1962
Death County: Saint Louis
Mother's Maiden Name: Olson
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 03:54:03
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Working with the data that Kathy posted here is the info on his trip to the US. It lists his fare as having been paid by his brother and lists his final destination as Ole Pedersen,
Bruce, Wisconsin. After that he is indeed a mystery man.
Name: Hilmar O Pedersen
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1903
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1879
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Ship Name: Ionian
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
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