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Eleanor Nolan
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 Posted - 16/08/2009 : 15:09:40
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| I understand Litlaland was a farm Does anyone have any info about it Was it one faimily or several |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2009 : 16:39:20
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Litlaland was and is a farm name, it is dialect for Lilleland (Small land).
Depending on the timespan you are interested in you can use info from the census to find how many farms had that name.
Example in the 1865 census you see two Lilleland farms in Haaland parish.
In 1801 there was only one farm.
In 1900 there were 3 Lilleland farms.
If you want to see the farms that exist today, you may search with this map. You should choose "Litlaland (Gårdsbruk) Sola, Rogaland" to see the farm of interest to you.
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Edited by - eibache on 20/08/2009 10:14:41 |
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Eleanor Nolan
Starting member
USA
13 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2009 : 19:31:54
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| Thanks for the info I did wonder if my grandmother was from the 1st family on the farm I was always told we had a French ancestry and that it was Jewish If anyone knows it would be a big help I have trouble when I try to read the records The eyes are not what they use to be My father had a cousin I met that was a Lilleland He was a professor in a college in California My father also spoke of an uncle who lived in Australia I think he was also a Lilleland |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/08/2009 : 16:10:17
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Professor Omund Lilleland of University of California, Davis (UC Davis)
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1899
Death Date: 18 Jun 1993
Social Security Number: 547-68-3736
Death Residence Localities: ZIP Code: 95616, Davis, Yolo, California
Arriving New York on May 09, 1905 with the ship Umbria:
Andreas O. Lilleland, 43y, Joderen, Norway
Laura Lilleland, 40y, Joderen, Norway
Ingeborg Lilleland, 15y, Joderen, Norway
Ormmund Lilleland, 6y, Joderen, Norway
Ole Lilleland, 4y, Joderen, Norway
Bertram Lilleland, 3m, Joderen, Norway
Census-1900 for Ølbør farm in Haaland, Rogaland.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2009 : 19:57:05
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Omunds father, Ole Andreas was coming from Lilleland, see 1865
Ole Andreas Olsen and Dortea Margreta Olsdatter (b 1870) in another thread were brother and sister.
Ole Andreas mother in the 1865 census is wrong, see his confirmation record, #3 no baptismal record is available.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 19/08/2009 20:15:18 |
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Eleanor Nolan
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 00:17:20
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| Great info I have to say he looked good for his age when I met him in the early 50's Can anyone tell me how to get info on if my grandmother was from the first family on the farm If I have a French Great something Grandfather or not My father told a lot but I forgot |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 03:50:41
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Why not consult the published history/genealogy books for the Sola/Madla and Håland area of Rogaland where they were from? "Gard og Ætt i Sola", by Sigurd Refheim; "Soga om Sola og Madla", 3 volumes by Svein Ivar Langhelle.
Read about how to obtain and use them.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html
Perhaps you don't realize that you asking complete strangers to research your entire family history for you just so that you can satisfy your curiousity about a old family story. I suggest that you learn how to research it yourself. Or perhaps you should hire a professional.
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Eleanor Nolan
Starting member
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Posted - 20/08/2009 : 21:41:34
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| Thank You for your reply and info I have tried with no luck I will try again Hope for better luck If not I will take your advise and hire a professional When my grand daughter gave birth she asked me to write down our family history I want to make sure I have facts not as you say old family stories So you see it is not just my curiousity I am sorry you felt I was just being lazy and wanted others to do my work I am very new at this and do have trouble I want to thank everyone who did help I hope some day I can return the favor E |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2009 : 23:12:32
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Doing the research just takes some patience, some study and some deduction. You read, you study and then you work at it. If your eyes are poor then get another member of your family interested in helping you when you need it. Your granddaughter sounds like a person who has the interest. (I use a magnifying glass myself when I need to.)
Look for a local genealogy club or a group like the Sons of Norway, they might have members in your area who are also doing Norwegian ancestral research. They might be good for giving advice when you need it.
When you first posted here you indicated that you already had the 'Roth/Rott' family history and I took that to mean that you already knew how to research in Norway but just needed a "jump start" for the Lilleland branch of the family.
I still think your fastest method to learn about the family tree of the Lillelands and the family on Rott Island would be to consult the published history/genealogy books for the Sola/Madla and Håland area of Rogaland where they were from? "Gard og Ætt i Sola", by Sigurd Refheim; "Soga om Sola og Madla", 3 volumes by Svein Ivar Langhelle.
Those are of course book which were written in Norway and written in the Norwegian language. But with a good Norwegian-English dictionary it can still be relatively easy to pick up the basic vital information about an ancestral line if they are contained with the book(s).
Start by studying the basics -
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1035
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html
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Eleanor Nolan
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Posted - 21/08/2009 : 01:00:26
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| Thank You I do work hard at it It is so wonderful when you get even a little info The roth family I found on another site I even found a family relation who sent me photos of my grand father and great grandfather I felt like I hit Lotto Thank You again for your time |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/08/2009 : 07:31:04
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Can anyone tell me how to get info on if my grandmother was from the first family on the farm
I don't know what you mean by the first family on the farm, but from the 1865 census you find that your grandmothers parents Ole Eriksen and Ingeborg Jacobsdatter were the owners of this farm in 1865
From this you also see your grandmothers siblings Ole Andreas Olsen, Tomine Marie Olsdatter and Ingeborg Serine Olsdatter who were born before 1865.
In this thread I gave you the info that your great-grandparents Ole Eriksen and Ingeborg Svendsdatter were married April 4 1861. Ingeborg Svendsdatter was then a widow, her first husband had been Abraham Svendsen.
The ancestors for Ingeborg Svendsdatter you can see back to the 1801 census, ie back to approx 1750.
There were no indications that any of these ancestors were french. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2009 : 08:08:10
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You grandmothers father Ole Eriksen was born on Rossaland farm April 6 1824 and baptized April 18, see #5 his parents (you g-g-grandparents) were Erik Olsen and Tørrina Larsdatter.
Tørrina came from the farm Schjelseth in Lye parish to work as a servant at the Rossaland farm were her husband to be was a son. She is recorded as Tørrie in the 1801 census. Her parents were Lars Olsen (born approx 1740) and Guri Johnsdatter (born approx 1747)
You will find Tørrinas husband Erich (Erik) Olsen at the Rosland farm in the 1801 census. His parents were Ole Erichsen (born approx 1742) and Siri Olsdatter (born approx 1738).
Erik Olsen and Tørrina Larsdatter were married April 1 1823, see #1 on the right page.
The ancestors for Ole Eriksen you can see back to the 1801 census, ie back to approx 1750.
There is no indication that any of these ancestors were French. |
Einar |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2009 : 08:17:12
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Joderen in Jan Peters posting above is Jederen.
Jederen and Dalenes was a former Bailiff district in Rogaland.
Jederen is todays Jæren where Sola parish and Lilleland is located.
That could explain the supposed jewish ancestry, a wrong interpretation of Jews/Jøder (Joder)
Because of the letter Ø I have noticed the Norwegian name for Jews "Jøder" been translated to Joder and Joderen in English.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 21/08/2009 11:55:42 |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 21/08/2009 : 11:14:51
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Lilleland records, click on Lilleland in the left column and watch "utvandrede" Emigrants " Folketelling, Mantall, Matrikkel" Censuses, "Skifte" Replasing "Gardsalg" farm sales "Førstebygselavgift" The lease for Litleland.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2009 : 13:38:26
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With the link to "Kilder fra Sola" which Kåre has brought up you can really get the help you are looking for. "Kilder fra Sola" (Sources from Sola) contains farms where your ancesters have been. You can look up Lilleland, Rott, Tjora, Ølbør, and more.
Using the link "Gard og Ætt" for the separate farms you have acces to all data in the "Bygdebok".
The only challenge of course is the Norwegian language, but translating aid can be supplied.
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Edited by - eibache on 21/08/2009 13:47:24 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2009 : 14:07:27
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Use the Google tools on the headline, it will translate the pages immediately.
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