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Scott Blankenbeckler
Starting member
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 18:57:33
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Ok this is the first time I have tried to work the family tree on my mothers side. I recently recieved more information but not enough to do a good search. I was hoping someone here might be able to help.
Christian Olsen (b. March 22, 1848?) (d. 1895)(I know he was a firefighter in Oslo) m. Jeanette Marie Rustad (b. Dec 3, 1850?)(d. April 5, 1890)
They had 4 children Borhild Olsen (b. ????) Gunbjør Olsen (b. ????) (not sure if I am spelling this correctly) Ragnhild Olsen (b. May 24, 1886) Christian Andreas Thorbjørn (b. Jan 13, 1888) (D. 194?) North Dakota before the end of WW2(died of TB)
I know this is not much to go on but any assistance would be great.
This is an image of the family I recently recieved from my mother. Christian Andreas Thorbjørn would be her grandfather(??). This photo was taken in 1889.
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Edited by - Scott Blankenbeckler on 14/09/2009 17:24:03 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 19:22:43
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Dates are needed. Get at least good estimates of birth years and immigration years from US censuses or other documents.
The number of Olsens/Olsons in Norway is staggering. You need more data. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 19:26:26
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Hi,
It would probably be more helpful if you could provide information about the family in the U.S. first. Every thing you want to know flows from what you already know. Did Christian Torbjorn come to the US or which of his children and where did they live?
Jackie M. |
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Scott Blankenbeckler
Starting member
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 19:40:23
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The only one who came to the states would be Christian Andreas Thorbjørn. At this point the only thing I know about him is that he died in North Dakota. I don't have exact dates on births or deaths yet. Apparently my mother has some of that info on a piece of paper from her grandmother but it is all in Norwegian. As I get more info about the individuals listed here I will update it. But I am not sure how much more I will get. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 21:09:37
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Hi,
Here are some North Dakota Naturalizations for Thorbjorns in the online index:
Lastname Firstname Country Papers Date County Volume Page Comments Borderud Thorbjorn Norway 2nd March 5, 1890 Cass F-22 291 Borgedahl Thorbjorn Norway 1st June 14, 1916 Pierce D-4 078 Fladeland Thorbjorn Norway 1st July 12, 1883 Cass D-6 285 Fladeland Thorbjorn G Norway 2nd July 12, 1883 Cass F-20 193 Meyer Thorbjorn P Norway 1st August 14, 1915 Grand Forks D-15 221 Olsen Thorbjorn Norway 1st February 25, 1913 Dickey D-4 059 Olsen Thorbjorn 2nd NA Renville P-6 011 void Otteson Thorbjorn O Norway 1st June 10, 1910 Ward D-14 172 Skeie Thorbjorn A Norway 2nd November 1, 1894 Traill F-11 329
There are also Christian Olsons, Andreas Olsons. What last and first name did he use most of the time?
North Dakota Death index is searchable online in ten year increments beginning about 1900 but searching absolutely requires a last name. Do a google search for north dakota public death index and google will find.
Is this Olson family your mother's father's family or your mother's mother's family?
Jackie M.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 21:17:38
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Re: Christian Andreas Thorbjørn (b. ????) Where in North Dakota did he live? Which county? What was the nearest town? Where is he buried? Approximately WHEN was he in North Dakota? Were his children born in Norway or US? Are you saying that he used Thorbjørn as a last name? (You never list Olsen for him.) |
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 22:07:18
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Janette, b. 1850, and Christian Olsen, b. 1848, in Oslo (Christiania) in 1875 census Christin Olsen was a "fyrbøder" = stoker.
In 1880 he worked on a steamer on the lake Krødern, and they got their daughter Gunbjørg baptised there 26 Sept 1880 Krødsherad church book nr 29. Ljunbjør is no Norwegian name. It should obviously be Gunbjørg. The handwritten G is misinterpreted. |
Harald S Storaker 4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 08/09/2009 23:31:04 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 22:47:35
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Hi,
Good work Harald!
So to recap, if these folks are the correct couple (looks exceedingly likely), now we know: Kristian (Christian) Olsen b. 1848 d. 1895 Janette Marie (Jeanette / Maria) b. 1850- d, 1890
All the children have to have been born between about 1875 and 1890.
Gunbjorg b. 1880 in Flaa, Hallingdal, baptized in Krødsherad and "farm address" given as Regstad.
Wonderful!
Jackie M.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 16:12:18
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In the baptismal record for Gunbjørg the mother is Jeanette Maria Rustad born in 1850. Since this is not a common name, a search in Christiania gave this result 1865
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 17:04:12
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Hi,
So her occupation at age 16 is songstress / singer?
Jackie M. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 21:23:15
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A possible Janette Marie is #97 she was born Dec 3 1850, parents Hans Martin Jacobsen and Johanne Mathilde Falgaard. A marriage record could verify this.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 21:44:50
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From the address where the young couple was living in the 1875 census I took that they could be within the jurisdiction of the Johannes congregation, Oslo. I checked marriage records for that church and did not notice any marriage for them there.
Before 1875 the Johannes congregation was part of the Trefoldighet congregation - so I checked 1874 in those marriage records and still did not notice any marriage for this couple.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2009 : 08:06:02
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Kristian Andreas Torbjørn Kristiansen, Skjønneberg who emigrated in 1906, see #163286 is your mothers grandfather. He was a fosterchild at the Skjønneberg farm in the 1900 census. He was born in Kristiania in 1887. He was confirmed Oct 4 1903, see #19. He was born Jan 13 1888 and baptized April 2, in Kristiania. The baptismal record is #51 the family was then living at Grønlandsleret 32. His father was then a firefighter mechanic. When Ragnhild was born they were living at the same place, see #107
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Edited by - eibache on 10/09/2009 09:37:59 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2009 : 10:17:13
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Mechanic and widower Christian Olsen died May 5 1895, see #103 Jeanette died April 5 1890 (recorded as Laurette Marie Olsen!), see #60.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 10/09/2009 10:29:18 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2009 : 17:38:02
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Hi,
Here is a Christian T. Olsen in the ND public death index, a good possible:
Name (Last, First Middle) Date of Death County of Death Gender Age Date of Birth State of Residence County of Residence OLSEN, CHRISTIAN T 07/31/1943 Cass MALE 55 Years 07/21/1888 North Dakota Cass
Jackie M.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2009 : 17:48:34
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Hi,
Here is another possible Christian A. Olsen in the North Dakota Naturalizations index online:
Lastname Firstname Country Papers Date County Volume Page Comments Olsen Christian A. Norway 2nd October 04, 1912 Stutsman P-20 091 Olsen Christian A Norway 1st March 13, 1907 Wells D-4 019
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