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mejensen1
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 Posted - 16/09/2009 : 07:43:08
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Mathia Glastad born 1843 in Biri, Oppland, Norway
I am looking for information of the above person who is probably my maternal great great grandmother. It is stated that she is the mother of Jospehine Gjefsen Evenson, born 1872, who was the mother of Milda Evenson Reinhard, mother of Eloise Reinhard/ Jensen1 /Fahrner2.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 10:12:13
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Not much to go on here, one likely birth in Biri is Mathea Syversdatter born Oct 8 1843, see #105
Her parents were Syver Nilsen, Galtestad and Johnine Olsdatter who were married Febr 6 1843, #3
(It is reasonable that Mathia = Mathea and Glastad = Galtestad)
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 10:27:11
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Syver Nielsen was born Jan 6 1816, see #5 his parents were Niels Pedersen and Anne Magrete Olsdatter, Galtestad
Johnine (uncommon name) was born Jan 5 1815 and actually baptized JonInger, see #9 her parents were shop assistant Ole Jensen and Mathea Knudsdatter.
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mejensen1
Junior member
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 10:57:24
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Thank you so much for the quick, thoughtful, and considerate response.
I just joined this NorwayHeritage forum this evening and I will need to spend time with the information and scans you provided.
At this time I don't quite understand the naming conventions of Noway at the time and how immigrants would adapt that system once they arrived in the USA. I also don't read Norwegian. But thanks so much again!!! This line it my mtDNA genome, FWIW.
Now I need to figure out where Jervis Jensen embarked from, though from US Census data it seems he was born in Denmark in 1850 and arrived in Chicago in 1878. This is my Y-DNA line!
I think there is some sort of convention in my maternal grandmother's family to have a middle name related to the "matriline" at the grandmother level.
Gjefsen is my uncle's middle name and searching at ancestry.com with Josephine's first name, I locate that somebody had posted the Mathia info in their or someone else's tree. I don't know where they got their information, nor have they replied to my query as of yet.
Mathia seemed to have 11 offspring and perhaps 2 husbands with various spellings of Gjefsen, but also a set of Gibsons.
Glastad may have been Mathia's birthname and perhaps she married a Gjefsen in Norway who either left her or passed away, so she found another partner unless Gjefsen became Gibson to some members. |
Edited by - mejensen1 on 16/09/2009 11:56:18 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 12:43:13
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A family tree posted online through Ancestry/RootsWeb lists "Mathia Galstad" also as :
Mathia Syversdatter Galstad/Glastad, Birth : 1843 in Biri, Oppland, Norway
Married : 15 JUL 1862 in Coon Prairie, Wisconsin to Jon Johannesen Gjefsen
Jon Johannesen Gjefsen, Birth : 09 JUL 1833 in Ostre Gausdal, Oppland, Norway
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 13:17:35
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The baptismal record for Jon Johannesen (Matheas husband) is #114
his parents were Johan Olsen Gjefsen and Kirsti Christensdatter.
From this he should actually have been named Jon Johansen.
Jon Johansens parents and a brother and a sister in 1865.
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Edited by - eibache on 16/09/2009 15:51:52 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 15:58:45
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Mathia Glastad born 1843 in Biri, Oppland, Norway
- this is definitely Marthea Syversdatter born at the Galtestad farm in Biri, Oppland county. The parish records for the years between 1854 - 1866 for Biri was lost in a fire, we can therefore not find any record for Mathea leaving Biri or Norway.
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It is stated that she is the mother of Jospehine Gjefsen Evenson, born 1872
- Josefine must have been born in US, most likely the father was Even. |
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Edited by - eibache on 16/09/2009 16:05:08 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/09/2009 : 16:15:27
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Bachelor John Johansen, Gjefsen 24 years old moved out from Gausdal April 2 1857, see #136
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Edited by - eibache on 16/09/2009 16:17:11 |
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mejensen1
Junior member
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Posted - 17/09/2009 : 00:45:21
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quote:
Originally posted by eibache
Bachelor John Johansen, Gjefsen 24 years old moved out from Gausdal April 2 1857, see #136
Hi all!!!
Thank you so much for all the help. I was adopted by a stepfather after an early maternal childhood (for me) divorce with much acrimony, so I have had pretty minimal contact with most of my genetic relatives.
Thus so much of my 'bloodline" info has been from info shreds and personal investigations as I was made an exiled "blacksheep" at an early age.
That said, what you have discovered makes sense, simply derived from my maternal uncle's name found at a 1989 Rolex award website, as he is Dr. Johan Gjefsen Reinhard, who is an archaeologist. You might be interested in his research if you google him.
Actually, one of my concerns in tracing this information has to do with Genetic Genealogy as this would be my mtDNA line.
At Family Tree DNA or FTDNA I am said to be H* and have had the HVR1 and HVR2 areas sequenced yielding HVR1 CRS HVR2 263G, 315.1C.
For highest discrimination the whole 16,000 base mitochondria genome would need to be sequenced at an additional cost of $400 US, which I cannot justify at this particular time, but it would be very interesting!
The above matches many people and seems to occur at about 4% for the data from Norway, my highest country match.
This compares to my Y DNA where there are no complete matches for the 1st or 12 marker panel (apparently it is very common to have 12/12 matches), but Denmark, its Jensen source, has the highest 11/12 %matches at 2 and 0.3 % ! |
Edited by - mejensen1 on 17/09/2009 01:20:34 |
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mejensen1
Junior member
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Posted - 17/09/2009 : 01:25:10
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Originally posted by Hopkins
A family tree posted online through Ancestry/RootsWeb lists "Mathia Galstad" also as :
Mathia Syversdatter Galstad/Glastad, Birth : 1843 in Biri, Oppland, Norway
Married : 15 JUL 1862 in Coon Prairie, Wisconsin to Jon Johannesen Gjefsen
Jon Johannesen Gjefsen, Birth : 09 JUL 1833 in Ostre Gausdal, Oppland, Norway
This place, Coon Prairie, WI is very near Westby in Vernon County, Wisconsin, so this is information I seek! Thank you so much! |
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mejensen1
Junior member
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Posted - 18/09/2009 : 02:28:44
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I said:
"The above matches many people and seems to occur at about 4% for the data from Norway, my highest country match."
This was a mistake; at HVR1 the highest match is the HVR1 of Morocco of all places, at 8% and Norway 2nd at 4%. but if HVR2 is included Greece is highest at 2%, but this is a little over 100 people tested for both sequences, and Norway is 1% with a little over 300. There seems to be Sephardic matches; and my Y-DNA haplogroup of R1a1* exists at about 52% in Ashkenazim Levites, so for awhile I was thinking I might have Jewish heritage, though I doubt it now.
Update:
On Thursday I received data from a sample for DNA analysis from 23andme. My mtDNA, or my maternal heritage from Biri, is mtDNA Haplogroup H4a. I image others from that area also carry this designation! |
Edited by - mejensen1 on 19/09/2009 21:03:11 |
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mejensen1
Junior member
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Posted - 12/12/2009 : 08:12:21
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Originally posted by Hopkins
A family tree posted online through Ancestry/RootsWeb lists "Mathia Galstad" also as :
Mathia Syversdatter Galstad/Glastad, Birth : 1843 in Biri, Oppland, Norway
Married : 15 JUL 1862 in Coon Prairie, Wisconsin to Jon Johannesen Gjefsen
Jon Johannesen Gjefsen, Birth : 09 JUL 1833 in Ostre Gausdal, Oppland, Norway
I have had the full genome sequence of my mtDNA sequenced. My haplogroup is H4a1a, and I can supply the entire sequence if anybody is interested. FTDNA has 6 complete matches, who I intend to email with information found here. |
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peder
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 14/12/2009 : 14:15:49
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would this be a census for your 'Jervis"
Name: Jervis Jensen
[Jeris Jensen]
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 25, Cook, Illinois
Age: 49
Birth Date: Jun 1850
Birthplace: Denmark
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1878
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Denmark
Mother's Birthplace: Denmark
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jervis Jensen 49
Georgiana Jensen 20
Carl Jensen 23
Mary Jensen 16
Carrie Jensen 13
Frank Jensen 10
Lottie Hessler 25
John Linberg 23
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mejensen1
Junior member
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Posted - 14/12/2009 : 20:01:47
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would this be a census for your 'Jervis"
Name: Jervis Jensen
[Jeris Jensen]
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 25, Cook, Illinois
Age: 49
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Yes, and Carl is my G Grandfather; but Jervis might be a "misprint" as it is not a common name, perhaps it was Jens. C. or Jens something. A market and proprietor was found in the name of Jens C Jensen for the place and time period. Jensen is the most common Danish surname, and I imagine Jens is a common first name. |
Mark E Jensen |
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peder
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Posted - 14/12/2009 : 20:12:51
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if I recall you wanted to find out where he embarked in denmark?
do you have his birth information? |
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