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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  20:23:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possible candidate could be Peder Jensen born 1886, living on Sandvik in 1900 with his mother and grandparents and a sister Dorthea, Nordland County, Herøy municipality.

The daughter Karoline Hansen (Karoline Eliasdr.) born 1868 was his mother, Peder was born out of wedloc July 25, bap. Peder Ludvig Kristian Oct. 10. 1886, Peder ´s father was Jens Mortensen Husvær

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 12/01/2010 20:48:47
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peder
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USA
835 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2010 :  21:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Karoline’s first marriage abt 1906 to Martin Williamson in Brooklyn NY
WILLIAMSEN
MARTIN
27
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NORW
NY
KINGS
12-WD BROOKLYN
1910

1910
Martin age 29 immig 1900 been married 4 yrs in 1910 he was born norway
Caroline 21 immig 1906 b. Norway
William 2 b. NY
Martin ½ yr b. Ny

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peder
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Posted - 13/01/2010 :  21:19:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Name: Peter Jensen (peder)
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline
Age at first marriage: he was 38 she was 17
Peter Jensen 43
Caroline Jensen 41 1889
Martin Williamson 20 son, abt 1910
Lillie Jensen 5 dau 1925
Arthur Jensen 2 son 1928

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peder
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Posted - 13/01/2010 :  21:42:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Name: Martin Williamsen
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's name: Caroline
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 12, Kings, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1900
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Martin Williamsen
27
Caroline Williamsen
21
William Williamsen
2
Martin Williamsen
1/12
William Williamsen
33
John Petersen
25


The 33 yr old William Williamsen is listed as a lodger and is married. John Petersen is listed as a lodger and single.
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peder
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  00:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Name: Martin Williams
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 8, Kings, New York
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1905
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 784
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Williams 37
Caroline Williams 30
William Williams 11
Martin J Williams 9





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vivian
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USA
32 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2010 :  05:13:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kåre
I had a talk today with my Aunt She said her father came from Nordland. She said he was a fisherman as well as his father. She said his mom worked on a farm.I thnk he was born in 1885. but that's all she could remember . She remembered that my grandmother sent my uncle to live in Norway when he was just a baby,and her dad put my uncles name on the farm deed .Because one day they wanted to build on the farm and family came here to the U.S. to have him sign papers for them to do it because he was part owner.My Uncle's name is William Williamsen is there a way to find out if my grandparents owned the farm and what farm was it they owned She also told me that my grandmother was one of 11 children her mother had. thank you all for all your help. Being here in the U.S. and not knowning much about your family is very heard and the work you do Means so much for all of us who don;t know much about our families over there. You all do a great job Thank you so Much

vivian
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  06:57:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe the baptismal record for Peder Ludvig Kristian would be of interest, it is #63.
His mothers full name was Karoline Emilie Eliasdatter and she was living at Sandvik (Aakvik).
The sister Dorthea Emilie was also born out of wedlock May 22 1888, see #33 her father was (married man?) shoemaker Peder Eilert Olsen.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 14/01/2010 11:30:22
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eibache
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  11:34:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karoline Emilie Eliasdatter was born Aug 24 1868 and baptized at home, this was confirmed in church Oct 18 1868, see #44.
Her parents were Elias Mekal Hansen and Elen Dorthea Pedersdatter at the Sandvik under Aakvig farm.
Elias and Elen had a son Petter Christian on March 26 1856, see #16.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 14/01/2010 12:19:10
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  12:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Vivian, Herøy is in Nordland.

Peder Jensen I found was sure a fisherman, most of the men living on the islands in northern Norway were.
His grandfather Elias was a lease holder and fisherman on Sandvik.

Most of the land on these islands were owned by "Væreiere" also called "Nessekonge" , a kind of squire and merchant which owned the land and decided the price of the fish.
The farms were small and tenants were required to work a certain number of days on the estate owners farm.
It you had any debt to the squire you were no allowed to by any goods from others.

Off the record. How life could be on these islands.
My grandfather Aksel born 1897 lived on the neighbor island named Dønna (bridge connection now).
One day he refused to comply with orders, after a few hours the squire came riding on a white horse and asked if Aksel Nordvoll had not heard the bell ringing.
Yes, Grandpa replied, but it was more important for him to get the dry hay into the barn. He could help if he got help in return with the hay first.
The squire turned his horse and rode back. Grandpa who was fearless and just never heard anything about this incident later.

I have not found migration records for Værøy after 1900.
No wonder that many young peole emigrated form these islands even the law was about to be changed so crofters could by the farm they lived on.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 14/01/2010 19:34:58
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eibache
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  12:31:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elias and Elen were married in 1852, see #8 Elias father was Hans Jørgensen and Elens father was Petter Jacob, both Elias and Elen were 24 years old.
Elias Mikael was born June 13 1828, see #11 his parents were Hans Chr. Jørgensen and Marie D. Andersdatter.
Elen Dortea was born Jan 28 1829, see #3 her parents were Petter Jacob Johansen and Kjersten Johnsdatter.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 14/01/2010 12:36:20
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  13:54:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karoline Eliasdatter Sandvik married Edvard Hansen Jan. 1. 1903, he was from Hov in Dønnes (Dønna) and lived on one of the Sandvik farms as a fisherman in 1900, see #1

Hov belonged to the same squire with the white horse.

They got a daughter Anna Petrine b. on Sandvik June 9. bap. August 23. 1903.
Peder Jensen was one of the godparents, see down page #23 .

Kåre


Edited by - Kåarto on 14/01/2010 19:37:57
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vivian
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USA
32 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2010 :  19:41:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am so Thank Full for eveyone's help You have made me so Happy today to have found my grandfather, and my grandmother. Now I can teach my children and there childen where they came from and that is all part of them. I remember my grandmother teaching how to count 1 to 10 I still teach it to my grandchildren. The few words I have learned I us them in specking to my children and grands. Even as babies when i said TaTa hunkies they give me there hands. It's as if they just know. At Christmas time I still make with my kids and grandkids Fattigmands they can't wait to make them. Peder seeing your post and seeing my father's name he was Arthur Jensen brought tears to my eyes. My dad passed away at a very young age in 1976 I miss him so thank you all from the bottom of my heart Vivian

vivian
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peder
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Posted - 14/01/2010 :  20:08:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your family in america, was there something else you wanted?
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vivian
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Posted - 15/01/2010 :  03:05:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
could you find anything about William Williamsen my grandmother brought him to norway and left him there to live. Her mother and father raised him for may years. Than he came back home to live with my grandmother after she married Peder Jensen Thank you Vivian

vivian
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Kåarto
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Posted - 15/01/2010 :  08:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
William Williamsen came to Norway shortly after 1910?
He settled down in Konsmo and takes over Koveland?
The family lived on Koveland, Nordre Undal /Nord Audnedal in 1900, temporary recidence was Konsmo.

I looked into the confirmation records for Konsmo, ended 1931, could not find William. On most pages there were confirmations that were born in the US, many from Brooklyn.

Kåre
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