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Bookmankim
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 Posted - 22/01/2010 : 04:35:16
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My great Grand father Samson Salamonson supposed came out on tje Ship "Friedeburg" as a crew her met and fell in love with one of teh Danish passengers Anna (Annie) Andersen
and her patents Jens and Amalie Andersen.
I am trying to confirm this by finding passenger records for
teh Andersen family and ships record or emigration records for
the Salamonsen side.
On Samson Salamonson death certificate it does not list parents, on Marriage it has Mother: Oline Knudsdtr Waagne Norway and Father: Salamon Nielsen Fjordane Norway
So hasn't been much help. Nothing at www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz
in the way of passenger list for Friedeburg. Am off to HB Museum in Napier tomorrow.
I would appreciate any help or guidance
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2010 : 07:04:54
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Samson Salomonsen, his parents and siblings in the 1865 census.
Samson was born Aug 16 1862 and baptized Samson Johannes Sept 7, see #155.
His parents listed as Salomon Nielsen and Oline Knudsdatter, Vaagene.
Samsons sister Nile was born Oct 29 and baptized Nille Judithe on Nov 19 1865, see #143
Samsons brother Karl was born out of wedlock Sept 9 1857 and baptized Karl Olaus on Sept 27, see #170 his father was Sjur Knudsen, Hjørnevik in Voss and the mother Oline Knudsdatter.
Salomon Nielsen and Andrea Oline Knudsdatter were married June 1 1862, see #8
Salomons father was Niels Gundersen, Ouslandsboten and Andrea Olines father was Knud Madsen, Vaagene.
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Edited by - eibache on 22/01/2010 07:58:00 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2010 : 07:54:32
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Salomon Nielsen was born May 3 1832, see #53 his parents were Niels Gundersen and Helle Cathrine Monsdatter at Ouslandsbotten.
Andrea Oline was born July 29 1830 and baptized Aug 8, see #76 her parents were Knud Madsen and Susane Andersdatter, Vaagene.
Knud Madsen, 36 years old from Øvre Redal in Førde and Susane Andersdatter, 30 years old from Apalsæter in Førde were married June 4 1827, see #9.
Knud Madsen, his parents, Mads Pedersen and Anna Jacobsdatter, and siblings in the 1801 census.
Susanna (Susane) Andersdatter, her parents, Anders Olsen and Johanne Larsdatter, and siblings in the 1801 census.
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 22/01/2010 : 07:55:19
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Thank you so much I really appreciate thank you for the sources too, I guess when I look at the cenus I will find out where he was from.
That was super quick.
Kim Salamonsen
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 22/01/2010 : 10:20:27
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Translated this means what?
2992 Susanna Andersdtr Deres børn 4 Ugivt
what does the Dere Born 4 Ugivt
Are you ables to explain the words
Kind regards
Kim |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2010 : 12:47:37
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2992 Susanna Andersdtr Deres børn 4 Ugivt
translated
2992 Susanna Andersdatter (Anders daughter) their child 4 years old not married (reasonable for the age!)
Except for abbreviations and maybe old spelling the online
translater may be useful |
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Hopkins
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Bookmankim
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New Zealand
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Posted - 24/01/2010 : 09:03:52
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This is great thank you so much fo ryour help
I will check out the websites, your websites has amazing info too. Wished I had found this site sooner.
Thanks again
Kim Salamonsen
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 25/01/2010 : 07:53:44
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Can you actually order a birth certificate from Norway?
Does the baptism info give a town or farm they came from?
Pardon my ignorance
Kind regards
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eibache
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Posted - 25/01/2010 : 08:39:04
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quote:
Can you actually order a birth certificate from Norway?
Does the baptism info give a town or farm they came from?
Living persons may ask for an attestation, if your interest is a proof of baptismal records you can make copies from the parish records.
Most baptismal records indicate where the parents were living, in most cases farms.
It would be easier if you can state your spesific interest. |
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Hopkins
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 26/01/2010 : 10:11:17
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While browsing the website I have seen the mention of lists of emigrants made up by the Norwegian police. Is it possible to search these?
I tried to make a donation but when I clicked on playpal link it was in what I assume was Norwegian, I wasn't sure what details I was entering. Is it possible to get it to display in English?
Thanks again
Kim
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 26/01/2010 : 10:15:59
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Oops sorry just found the forum posting guidelines and the mention of email address
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Hopkins
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Posted - 26/01/2010 : 15:31:32
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The emigrant protocols (registers) created by the Norwegian police in the various ports of departure are most easily available in electronic database format at the Digitalarkivet website.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html
Most of the original protocols have also been microfilmed and you can order and use those at an LDS Family History Center. Use the Library Catalog and do a Place search for the port of departure you would wish to investigate.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 30/01/2010 : 03:58:08
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Have found information on Anna Andersen and Jens and Amalia Andersen her parents on shipping list for the Friedeburg which sailed from Hamburg, Germany, on 07 May 1875. It arrived Napier, New Zealand, on 24 August 1875, after a passage of 108 days with a passenger list at Napier Museum, but no mention of Samson Johannes Salamonson in passenger or crew detail whom I was told by a grandparent was part of ships crew but does not mention much in way of shipping staff.
I am trying to find and old newspaper around the time to see if there was any news of a crewman jumping ship. No luck for the 24 -31st August 1875. or are ther lists of ships deserters?
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Bookmankim
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 07:54:39
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So where was Samson Johannes Salamonson Born?
I confused about the place?
I have been reading abpout farms and kommunes etc and readiong teh info you gave me and looking at the sources links
I'm confused. Can I find his place of birth on a Map?
Sorry to not be able to understand.
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