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davidlasch
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eibache
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 Posted - 02/03/2010 : 19:28:30
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I believe you mean #28
if so it reads Peter Julius was born July 19 1823 and baptized Sept 7 that year.
His parents were Iver Pedersen and his wife Anne Torgersdatter who were living i Byen (i.e. Fredrikstad).
Iver Pedersen was Hoboist in the Aggershusiske geworbne Musqwĉteercompanie.
Witnesses at the baptism was Sergeant Rive, ? Berger, Trops? Engebrechtsen, Sergeant Rives son, og Sergeant Fjeldstads son og pigen Anne Marie Erichsen.
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Edited by - eibache on 02/03/2010 19:45:50 |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 20:19:18
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Thank you very much. I have been scrolling through more Fredrikstad records and found what might be the death record for Ann Torgersdatter from the previous record.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?show=126&uid=177630&urnread_imagesize=full&hode=nei&ls=1
I think she is line #13. This shows her age as 45 I think? If so that would make her 39 when Petter Julius was born. Seems pretty old for that time in history? I see Iver Pedersen so I am assuming that it is listing him as her husband.
Is there anything else in this death record that might be a good clue?
Thanks I am so glad these records are online. I did research many years ago and have just started to look again - very exciting!
Thanks for the help!
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Hopkins
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 20:59:18
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Your links are not working.
When you've studied and used the instructions and been able to find a scanned page that you'd like to capture as a URL to share with someone else or save for your family history documentation - just copying the URL that your browser shows will NOT provide a working link.
Working direct links to the scanned images on the Digitalarkivet can be copied and pasted from the desired page from a display option available. At the top of the scanned image page is an option labeled "Bildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Image Information"[English version] which is by default set to "Ingen" [Norwegian version]/"None" [English version]. Change that and magic is available. Of the three options I like "Ĝverst" [Norwegian version]/"On top" [English version] because it puts the additional information across the top of the page and is usually easier for me to see.
The first line "Kildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Source information" [English version] is a really nice summary of the source of the information and is wonderful to have for making detailed source citations, footnotes, etc.
The second line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] is the best line to capture if you want to save the exact URL location or share the actual scanned image and the source information. It allows the full capabilities for zooming in and out to best view the image and informs the recipient of the exact location, book and other details to be able to find WHERE you found the information.
The third line "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] is the best used to print a copy of the image or to save a copy of the image in a jpg format computer file. This line does NOT also capture the source information and therefore is NOT the best line to copy to share online when requesting help or assistance in deciphering the image found.
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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davidlasch
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eibache
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 21:34:41
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When Peter Julius was confirmed in 1839 both his father and mother was dead. Further searching could help in deciding who died first.
(Sorry, I am not able to translate the word in front of Iver Pedersen.)
Confirmation record is
#17.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 21:38:08
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How did you find his confirmation? That is great information!
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davidlasch
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eibache
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 22:45:10
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davidlasch
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 22:54:28
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Is that what the words after his name mean?
Just trying to figure out where to go from here? I tried looking for birth records for him but could not find any but not sure I am doing it right.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 03/03/2010 : 05:04:11
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You seem to be doing splendidly. Give yourself a chance. The earlier records take more effort - and bad handwriting can make it even more challenging.
Birth records for 'him' - him? who exactly? Iver Pedersen? Well, you don't really know definitely WHERE he was born yet. There might still be some clue hidden in the records of his life in Fredrikstad. He was in the military, right? He could have been transferred to that location from.... anywhere?
There might be a clue in the Fredrikstad records - did you find any other children born to that couple? have you checked for a marriage record, a 'inflytte' record?
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davidlasch
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Posted - 03/03/2010 : 14:10:10
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Yes I have to remember to slow down and put all the information in!
I was talking about Iver Pedersen. I did look for birth records for him in Fredrikstad but did not see any. I also looked for other children born to Iver Pedersen and Anne Torgersdatter in Fredrikstad and did not find any. No marriage record either. Since they were both in their 30s when Petter Julius Iversen was born in 1823 I would think they had older children.
I guess that means they were not from Fredrikstad originally. But you are right I can't complain I think I found our more yesterday than I have in years! |
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davidlasch
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davidlasch
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 14:13:20
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[quote]Originally posted by eibache
I believe you mean #28
if so it reads Peter Julius was born July 19 1823 and baptized Sept 7 that year.
His parents were Iver Pedersen and his wife Anne Torgersdatter who were living i Byen (i.e. Fredrikstad).
Iver Pedersen was Hoboist in the Aggershusiske geworbne Musqwĉteercompanie.
Witnesses at the baptism was Sergeant Rive, ? Berger, Trops? Engebrechtsen, Sergeant Rives son, og Sergeant Fjeldstads son og pigen Anne Marie Erichsen.
Still looking for clues as to where Iver Pedersen and Anne Torgesdatter were from. I can't seem to find any new info on them.
What does "Hoboist in the Aggershusiske geworbne Musqwĉteercompanie" mean. I realize it must have something to do with the military.
Are there military records? |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 15:12:18
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Hoboist in the Aggershusiske geworbne Musqwĉteercompanie
'hoboist' originally meant playing the oboe, but in the 18th and first part of 19th centuries it took on a wider meaning, at least in Denmark and Norway, meaning a military musician playing any woodwind instrument.
For geworbne Musqwĉteercompanie see this info
Military records are available, but not on the web. |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 15:35:00
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Anne Torgersdatter who was 45 years old when she died in 1829, would have been born approx 1784 then and should be approx 17 years old in the 1801 census.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/03/2010 15:44:55 |
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translation help please
