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davidlasch
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 Posted - 15/03/2010 : 14:18:45
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Source information: Østfold county, Fredrikstad, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1835-1856), Marriage records 1836, page 230.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=364&idx_id=364&uid=ny&idx_side=-208
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060405010347.jpg
#7 marriage record for Johannes (Arnesen) Christiansen and Kari Syversen.
Census records show birthplace as Hedmarken or Vangs PR
I just realized that this says Valdres?
If this really says Valdres I have been looking in the wrong spot! No wonder I can't find her!
Can someone with good eyes let me know what they think and where you think the best place to track her birth records might be.
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eibache
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Posted - 15/03/2010 : 22:47:10
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davidlasch
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Posted - 16/03/2010 : 00:13:55
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| Yes same people just looking to see if I was looking in the wrong place. Ihave gone through the ones suggested and have not been able to find anything. After going back and re reading I saw that it could be Valdres (or it could be Valders?). |
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vivi
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davidlasch
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Posted - 16/03/2010 : 11:27:12
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| Thank you very much! When I am able to get to my computer later I will look at thease and see where they take me. I had hit a dead end so much appreciated. |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 16/03/2010 : 22:00:45
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Thank you. I have quickly looked and do not see a baptism record either. I am trying to learn how to look through all these records and I realize it is a lot of trial by error, but what made you look for her in Ringsaker? What clue did I miss? Just trying to learn so I don't feel so helpless and lost!
Thanks again.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 16/03/2010 : 22:04:01
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| If I am reading the migration record she went to Christiania - would it be logical to search for her coming into parishes in Christiana? Did people generally register or did they have to when they moved into a new parish? |
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Edited by - davidlasch on 17/03/2010 12:44:42 |
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vivi
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 14:14:14
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Hi
Kari left Ringsaker and went to Christiania.
Her future husband Johannes was born in Christiania around 1809 to parents Christen Arnesen and Ane Maria Jonasdatter. (Have I got this correct?) I have only found his birth on FamilySearch, but I have found siblings baptized in Oslo Domkirke.
Here is his family in the 1801 census:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=34&filnamn=f18010301&gardpostnr=202&personpostnr=2282&merk=2282#ovre
(Johannes not yet born)
Johannes and at least two of his brothers moved to Fredrikstad, as I understand it.
It is far from always noted when someone leaves or moves to a parish.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 14:21:20
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Thank you. I have not been able to find anything on Johannes birth or his mothers name. What is family search?
Johannes moved to Fredrikstad where he married Kari and their children were born. I am not sure if they died there or not.
I will look for the births of his siblings in Oslo Domkirke.
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davidlasch
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davidlasch
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 15:08:59
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| reading the 1801 census it looks like Christen Arentzen mother is living with them? Her name is Bendithe. What does" Enke efter 2det ægteskab" mean? |
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vivi
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 16:13:35
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Hi
You found Arne, who might be an older brother of Johannes.
Here is what is written:
Christen Arnesen hjulmagersvend (=wheelwright journeyman)og hustru (= and wife) Anna Maria Jonasdatter, deres søn (=their son) Arne (født den 5te Aug?) (=born Aug 5). Not sure about Aug.
All the names are godparents/sponsors.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 17:03:33
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quote:
Originally posted by davidlasch
What does" Enke efter 2det ægteskab" mean?
Widow after (her) 2nd marriage.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 17:10:40
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| Thank you. Guess I will try to track down her marriages and see where that leads me. Is Bendithe a name? I have not run into that before? |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 17:29:21
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quote:
Originally posted by davidlasch
Is Bendithe a name?
 Yes. It's a spelling variant (or spelling mistake) of Benedicte.
In the 1801 census, you'll find the name spelled in a lot of different variants. (The number refer to #of occurrencies in the 1801-census):
1 Bendeke
1 Bendette
4 Bendi
1 Bendia
1 Bendica
8 Bendiche
2 Bendichta
2 Bendichte
1 Bendichtha
1 Bendict
16 Bendicta
5 Bendicte
1 Bendictha
1 Bendicthe
2 Bendie
2 Bendigta
2 Bendigte
1 Bendike
1 Bendikka
1 Bendikke
2 Bendikta
1 Bendikte
1 Benditha
1 Bendithe
1 Benediche
7 Benedichta
1 Benedichte
44 Benedicta
26 Benedicte
5 Benedictha
1 Benedicthe
1 Benedigta
1 Benedigte
1 Benedikta
5 Benedikte
1 Benete
1 Beneth
1 Benethe
1 Beneticte
3 Benette
1 Benina
2 Benitte
1 Bennedichte
1 Bennedicta
1 Bennedicte
1 Bennedikte
Not all names are neccesarily the same, but it gives you an indication on how different spellings can make it quite hard to search in the databases...
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davidlasch
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Posted - 17/03/2010 : 17:33:02
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| wow - I keep learning so much - thanks so much! |
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Kari Syversen
