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Marilyn Olson
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Posted - 06/04/2010 :  16:21:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Researching my husband's family history. His g-grandfather homesteaded in Antelope Montana named Christian Arthur Olson, His son, Carl Arthur Olson married Nettie Modahl in 1916 in Culbertson Montana. Carl had a brother named Otto.

I've been told that "Olson" was originally "Kettleson/KIttleson"? They migrated to Minnesota and Nettie is buried I believe in Pelican Rapids?

Searching for any history on either Kittleson or Modahl.

Nettie came from Lars Modahl and Bertha Torkildson. Said she moved from Norway on a ship somewhere around 1909.

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 06/04/2010 :  20:11:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1900 for Fosston village, Polk, Minnesota:
Chris Olson, b Jul 1854 in Norway, imm 1871, married 1877. [= Christian Arthur Olson]
Mathilda Olson, b Apr 1859 in Sweden, imm 1874, married 1877.
Children:
Mary C Olson, b Oct 1883 in Minnesota
Arthur Olson, b Jan 1889 in Minnesota [= Carl Arthur Olson]
Otto W Olson, b May 1891 in Minnesota
Effie A Olson, b Jan 1898 in Minnesota

Census-1910 for Fosston, Polk, MN;
Christian K Olson, b 1855 [= Christian Arthur Olson]
Matilda Olson, b 1859
Children:
Carl A Olson, b 1889 [= Carl Arthur Olson]
Otto W Olson, b 1892
Clarie M Olson, b 1901

Jan Peter
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Hopkins
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Posted - 06/04/2010 :  21:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the source of the information that Chris/Christian Olson's name was originally similar to Kettleson/KIttleson? Were any other details included with that source?

Early history of Norwegian settlement in Polk Co. Minn.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/nor-oppland/2004-12/1104114357

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Marilyn Olson
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Posted - 06/04/2010 :  21:31:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My father-in-law says that there were too many Kettlesons, so that's why they changed their name to Olson...supposed it goes like this:

Ole Kettleson
Christian Arthur Olson
Arthur (Carl) Olson
Conrad (my husband's dad)
Chad Olson (my brother-in-law)
Scott Olson (my husband)
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Hopkins
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Posted - 06/04/2010 :  21:42:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Christian's father was Ole Kettleson/Kittleson then it is the Norwegian patronymic naming pattern that gives him the name Olson.
(What vital dates for the immigrant family members?)

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm

Edited by - Hopkins on 06/04/2010 21:44:00
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Marilyn Olson
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Posted - 06/04/2010 :  21:55:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1900 for Fosston village, Polk, Minnesota:
Chris Olson, b Jul 1854 in Norway, imm 1871, married 1877. [= Christian Arthur Olson]
Mathilda Olson, b Apr 1859 in Sweden, imm 1874, married 1877.
Children:
Mary C Olson, b Oct 1883 in Minnesota
Arthur Olson, b Jan 1889 in Minnesota [= Carl Arthur Olson]
Otto W Olson, b May 1891 in Minnesota
Effie A Olson, b Jan 1898 in Minnesota
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Hopkins
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3351 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2010 :  15:54:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1865 Norwegian census shows at least 62 men named Ole Kittelsen/Kittilsen (or the other expected spelling variations) from various parts of Norway that were born 20 or more years earlier than the son "Christian Arthur" and that are either still married in 1865 or widowed.

You could search through those various households and perhaps find a match for what you seek.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger_avansert_e.aspx

Read the instructions for those databases at that website and the database search wildcard most useful is the "%".

Edited by - Hopkins on 07/04/2010 15:56:42
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/04/2010 :  20:29:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1920 for Polk, Minnesota:
Carl C Olson, b 1855, Norway
Mathilda Olson, b 1860, Sweden
Effie Olson, b 1898, Minnesota
Melvin C Olson, b 1902, Minnesota

So who was "Christian Arthur Olson"? I believe this must be him:
1880: ??
1900: Chris Olson, b July 1854 in Norway, imm 1871, married 1877. Fosston village, Polk, MN.
1910: Christian K Olson, b 1855 in Norway, imm 1871. Fosston, Polk, MN.
1920: Carl C Olson, b 1855 in Norway, imm 1871. Polk, MN.

First of all; I have not found any proof of that he homesteaded in Antelope Montana...?
His son can be found in Sheridan, Montana in 1920:
Carl A Olson, b 1889 in Minnesota
Nettie Olson, b 1895 in Norway
Lois Olson, b 1917 in Montana

But not his father?
And what about his name? Christian Arthur? What are your sources for his name? He is listed as Chris, Christian K and Carl C in the census'es...
What does the original census-images say about his middle name?
And can he be found in the 1880-census? I have not been able to locate them. He married Mathilda ab. 1877.

Jan Peter
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/04/2010 :  21:54:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still no "Arthur"...
Census-1905 for Fosston, Polk, MN.
Christian C Olson b 1855
Mrs. Mathilda Olson b 1858
Carl A Olson b 1889
Otta Wm Olson b 1891
Effee E Olson b 1898
Mevin C Olson b 1901

A possibility for Census-1895 for Polk, MN:
Chrestina Olson b 1855
Mathina Olson b 1860
Mary Olson b 1882
Carl Olson b 1889
Otto Olson b 1890

Are any of these men listed with a Swedish born wife named Mathilda, born ab 1860?
From Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1885:
Chris Olson b 1853 in Norway
Chris Olson b 1854 in Norway
Christian Olson b 1854 in Norway
Chris Olson b 1855 in Norway
Christian Olson b 1855 in Norway
Christian Olson b 1855 in Norway

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 07/04/2010 22:24:10
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CJ Tweeton
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  01:21:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My gt. grandfather was Hans Kittelson , a brother to Ole Kittelson. Both came to Erhard's Grove townhip in OtterTail
County, MN. Their children had similar names; Hans and Bertha's children were Christian Kittelson, Hannah Ouren, Anton Hans Kittelson and Gina Myhra. The children of Ole and Karen were Christian Olson, Helena Ohe, Hans Kittelson and Sophie (married to Aasness, then Ambers). Hans and Bertha have the name Bustul on their tombstone as that is where they lived in Norway. Ole's tombstone bears the Kittelson name. These are located at the Bagstevold Cemetery in Erhard's Grove. Christ Olson and Mathilda are buried at Central Swede
Lutheran Church a few miles from Pelican Rapids, MN. Ole Kittelson married a second time as Karen died young. His second wife was a Mrs. Varberg, a widow. Ole and Hans came from Sandsvĉr in Buskerud County , Norway, near Kongsberg.
Their mother, Sara, came also to America and is buried at the South Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery. A committal service is noted in their records in June 1975 altho she died in Nov. 1874.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  04:46:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0629&kenr=006&bnr=0078&lnr=000

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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  08:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Kittilsen was from Bustul and Karen Hansdatter from Flata (Isaksplassen), a sub farm under Muggerud.

I have all the records for these people for you later.

Kċre

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Kċarto
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  10:04:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Carl Christian Olsen became Christian Arthur Olsen in the US ?
Christian Olsen was born June 6. bap. Carl Christian Olsen Oct. 10. 1854, born out of wedloc, see #108
Ole Kittilsen Bustul and Karen Hansdtr. Flata married April 29.1855, see #19.
Fathers: Kittil Olsen Bustul and Hans Halvorsen Flata.

Hans born Nov. 4. bap. same day 1860, see #115

Other children;
Anne Helene b. a. 1856 (servent on farm Lauarhaugen 1875) , Hans b-d- 1858, Olaus 1862, Sofie 1865, Olaus b-d 1868, Hans b-d 1869, boy deadborn 1870.

The family emigrated 1870, Ole sold the farm to silver miner Peder Johnsen Brċthen.
Karen Serine Hansdatter died 1884 and Ole Kittilsen died 1916 in USA.

From about 1920 Flata (Isaksplasssen ) was converted to a general store, closed for about 25 years ago.

Isaksplassen (Isac´s place) was named after the first farmer who cleared the land, Isak Pedersen Muggerud eie 1684-1763

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 09/04/2010 14:23:02
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  12:04:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Kittilsens´s brother, your Hans Kittilsen Bustul, married in Hedenstad church Jan. 4. 1862 to Berthe Catrine Anundsdatter Aaseiet (a sub farm under Aas/Ċs), see #1

Correct name on Aaseiet was Steinbekk.

The family emigrated 1870 with 3 children, Christian age 8, Anna Sofie age 5, Ragnild Maren age 2 and Berhe Katrines sister Helene Sofie age 22 1/2, see right page #21-26

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 09/04/2010 12:05:16
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Kċarto
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  13:02:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans and Ole Kitilsen´s father Husmand (lease holder) Kittil Olsen Bustul died August 23. buried Sept. 6.1868, buried at the cemetery at Hedenstad church, see #64

Kittil Olsen´s widow Sara was Sara Hansdatter Tofstad, I cannot find her em. records, information tells she emigrated the same year, 1870, with the sons as she sold Bustul for 180 Spesiedaler to Ole Olsen Ormetangen, Kittil Olsen´s nephew.

Kċre
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 09/04/2010 :  16:02:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great info, CJ Tweeton! I think you solved the mystery!
There's no doubt in my mind that the "Christian Arthur Olson" in this topic must be equal to (Carl) Christian Olson, son of Ole and Karen Kittelson.
Carl Christian Olson and swedish wife Mathilda have a son named Carl Arthur Olson, born 1889.

Jan Peter

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