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tmafarrell
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  00:14:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi kċre,

thank you! actually eibache had found them for me awhile back, but thank you for your offer!

todd

Hilsen,
Todd
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tmafarrell
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  00:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jackie- i am curious; is it easy for you to look up obituaries? i am sorry to be a pest, but if there is anything on jens and karen berg, i would be interested in reading about them. jens died 1907.10.28 and karen died 1920.04.11, both in chicago. thank you again!

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Todd
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  04:47:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I looked for an obit for Jens Berg and Robert Berg and for Anna Kallak when I looked at the Rowberg file. Ole's was the only one I found. I didn't have a married name for Caroline otherwise I'd have looked for her, at the same time. Obits for women are tougher to find in the collection since they were filed under a male family member name (in 99.99% of cases!) rather than their own, sometimes their father's name, or a nephew's name or husband's name or some such. Even though I looked for him, Jens Berg died before the collection was started (1913-1914) so unlikely that he would be in anyway.

But since the family lived in Chicago, it is possible that obits for them were published in Skandinaven a Norwegian language paper published right there in Chicago. The Illinois State Library / Archive has microfilm of Skandinaven and if I remember the dates are roughly 1866-1911 or so. I assume that the films would still be loaned through Inter Library Loan at your local public library.

You could also try www.genealogybank.com for a look (the looks are free, the downloads require a subscription) to see if there are any more available there. If Robert lived in Crookston at the time of his death, likely he would have an obit in the Crookston Times or possibly the Grand Forks (N.D.) Herald, both papers have been microfilmed.

Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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tmafarrell
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  04:58:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi jackie,

thank you for taking a look and for the links. caroline married robert meeker 1904.05.03. they both died in chicago in 1936. he on february 2 and she on july 12. both are buried in mt olive cemetery, chicago. i'll have a look at the "skandinaven,: either by inter library loan or next time i am in chicago (i am there for work quite a bit).

you are an amazing researcher- are you a professional or is this a hobby?

Hilsen,
Todd
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  05:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I'll take a look for Caroline Meeker next time I'm where the collection is and report.

It's possible that there are films of Skandinaven available other places as well, but I think the Illinois Archive/Library is located in Springfield.

I'm no professional--I do this purely for the joy of discovery!

Good Luck to you!

Jackie M.
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tmafarrell
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  05:16:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was just looking for olive on familysearch record search. i tried this time without the last name, and just put the first name, years 1891-1970 and chicago. i came up with one living with rachel blomberg in chicago. rachel is listed as widowed. i mention this because when i went to mount olive cemetery last march, i learned that a rachel blomberg bought some of the plots where caroline, anna, jens, & karen are buried. i was a bit confused- not really knowing who rachel is. although, ragnhild, a funny name by american standards, might have taken rachel or rachael as an americanization of ragnhild. it's just a guess... what do you think?

Hilsen,
Todd
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tmafarrell
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  05:37:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well- you're excellent! and it truly is exciting making a discovery! admittedly, many of my discoveries are thanks to people like you, eibache and a few others on this forum- truly a wonderful group of people helping me find my past!

Hilsen,
Todd
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  17:28:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Todd,

Wowie Zowie! Sometimes its the wee small details that make a difference. Why would an unrelated person be paying the final expenses for your folks--that function is usually done within a family.

Yes Rachel could be Ragnhild. These kinds of name adaptations happen frequently. In the 1880 census she is listed as Rosa which is a fairly common one. On this forum recently a search was on for another "Ragnhild" and it was finally determined that she went by Hilda. So it's entirely possible.

You need to start plugging Rachel Blomberg into the databases and see what pops!

Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  20:45:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
the date for Ragnhild (June 13. 1869. 1869) and Caroline (August 30. 1865) correspond with your information Todd, christened Caroline Kirstine in Gamle Aker.

Ragnhild is a very common name in Norway, rare in the US.
Ragnhild was christened Ragnhild Jensine, same church, see bottom #164

Kċre
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2010 :  23:14:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Todd,

Today I looked in the Rowberg File for obits for:

Rachel Blomberg
Caroline Meeker
Hans Samuelson

and found none. But there is a pretty good online index for the Chicago Tribune. You don't get a view of the article and you have to pay for the article but the database covers 1852 + so chances are good you might find a name or two...

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/advancedsearch.html

Re your find of Olive and Rachel Blomberg, I quick looked in Ancestry today and I think that this is most probably your group.
They lived together in Chicago in 1910, 1920, 1930

In 1910 Rachel is listed as age 37 widowed b. Norway with one child born and one child living. Her occupation is dermatologist. Olive is listed as daughter, age 18, music teacher giving private lessons, single, b Illinois, father born Sweden, mother b. Norway

In 1920 Rachel is listed as age 60, widowed b Norway occupation is hairdresser. Olive is daughter, 22, single b. Minnesota, father born U.S., mother born Norway occupation is switchboard

1930 Rachel Blomberg is listed as mother-in-law, aged 55 widowed for 17 years born Minnesota, father born Norway, mother born Norway. Olive is listed as Olive M. Wallis wife of Frank B. Wallis, aged 33, born Minnesota, father born Sweden, mother b. Norway. She and Frank have a son named Paul E. Wallis aged 8 months b. Illinois

There is an Olive Wallis in the SSDI at rootsweb.com b. 29 May 1892, d April 1982 last residence Bartlett Cook County, Illinois, SSN 340-38-2709 which may be her.

Perhaps Rachel is buried in the same cemetery as the other family members. It might be worthwhile to contact the sexton there to see if their records can shed some light.

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

Edited by - jkmarler on 26/05/2010 23:15:00
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Lislcat
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USA
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Posted - 27/05/2010 :  00:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a newspaper article that mentions this family.
Daily Herald | Chicago, Illinois | Tuesday, July 24, 1979 | Page 7

3 hurt in head-on crash in Bartlett

Three persons were injured one of them seriously in a two car head on collision about 7:15 p.m. Monday on Newport Boulevard and Chippendale Street in Bartlett.

Police said William C. Thomas, 31, of 770 Voyager Dr., Bartlett apparently fell asleep at the wheel and his car crossed into the southbound lanes and struck a car driven by Paul E. Wallis, 49, of 510 W Morac, Bartlett.

Passenger Olive Wallis, 80, of 510 W. Morse, Bartlett was in serious but stable condition in the intensive care unit at Sherman Hospital, Elgin. Thomas was in good condition and Paul Wallis was was treated and released.

(In once instance, they say Morac and the other Morse, for the street that they live on)



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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/05/2010 :  00:39:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I now know that the correct street is Morse. Here is an real estate listing for the sale of that house.

Daily Herald | Chicago, Illinois | Tuesday, December 14, 1999 | Page 142

Real Estate Transfers

$220,000. 510 Morse, Bartlett, 60103.
Sold September 24th, by Paul Wallis to Jennifer Hill and Michael Hill.


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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/05/2010 :  00:51:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Daily Herald | Chicago, Illinois | Tuesday, January 05, 1999 | Page 56

FATAL: Snow shoveling also claims lives of area residents

(this is a long article, so I’m going to just give you the info on Paul Wallis)

Post Office employee Paul Wallis, 69, of Bartlett had a fatal heart attack about 3:30 p.m. Saturday after digging his car out of the snow in the Barrington Post Office’s parking lot, Wipper said.

(From the other articles on this page, it sounds like it was a major snow storm that they had been tracking for a week)



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Name: Paul Wallis
SSN: 342-24-1889
Last Residence: 60103 Bartlett, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 6 Aug 1929
Died: 2 Jan 1999
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)

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Edited by - Lislcat on 27/05/2010 00:52:11
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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/05/2010 :  01:31:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie,
That 1930 US Census you listed, also gives him a wedding license to look for. They are listed as being 34 yrs (Frank) and 33 yrs (Olive) and were both 26 yrs when they married. So they were probably married abt 1922 or 23 and more than likely, in the Chicago area. Also, Frank is listed as working as an Asst. Superintendent at a Cemetery.

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Lislcat
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Posted - 27/05/2010 :  02:23:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the Illiinois Death Index
A possible death date for Frank Wallis.

WALLIS FRANKLIN B M/W UNK 6012744 1938-05-04 COOK CHICAGO 38-05-06

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