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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 27/05/2010 : 03:30:19
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Hi Wanda!
Thanks for this help. What sort of database did you find the Chicago paper in, certainly right to the point on this family, Very helpful!
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tmafarrell
Medium member
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 03:35:40
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hello all- i cannot thank you enough! i am so touched by everyone here- you have all been so helpful. i was very close to my great grandmother (only daughter of caroline berg), but i neglected to ask her ANY questions about family. of course, i am kicking myself now. however, all of you have brought some of the mysteries into the light. i will visit my grandparents tomorrow, and will ask them if some of the things you have reported sound familiar to them. if so, then i will go ahead and order the death certificate for olive, and hopefully the names of her parents will be listed correctly on the death certificate.
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 05:17:22
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Jackie,
I used Newspaper Archives. It's sometimes hit or miss, but I got lucky this time. :-)
Todd,
I searched for marriages for a R (female name) Berg to a Blomberg and didn't see anything in the Illinois marriages. I also didn't see any obits for any of them, except for the story about Paul Wallis' death.
I would definitely get Olive's death certificate. That could answer many questions. I wonder if the cemetery that Frank Wallis worked at, may be where you will find even more answers? |
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tmafarrell
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 05:19:40
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| yes- i have had no luck in any data base finding a marriage for rachel or ragnhild berg to a blomberg. hopefully olive's death certificate will answer some questions. thank you so much for all your help! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 05:45:46
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I hope this is relevant. Here is a 1910 US Census record for a Rachel Bloomberg. Olive is listed as having been born in Illinois, father is listed as Swedish.
Name: Rachel Blomberg
Age in 1910: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 15, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1873
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rachel Blomberg 37
Olive M Blomberg 18
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 05:51:06
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Must be the same Rachel here with her daughter Olive and husband and child in 1930 US Census.
Name: Rachel J Blomberg
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
View Map
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Frank B Wallis 34
Olive M Wallis 33
Paul E Wallis 8/12
Rachel J Blomberg 55
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tmafarrell
Medium member
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 05:52:04
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| yes- thank you! i do think that is her- although the years aren't exactly correct (she was born in 1869 and emigrated in 1871- those years i know for certain). i found a photo of a roy blomberg- my ggrandmother wrote on the back- cousin. well, he'd really be her uncle-in-law, but who knows. it might not even be the correct person, because she also has a cousin roy berg. i mean, really? is the name pool for norwegians at that time so shallow? again- thank you for your help! |
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tmafarrell
Medium member
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 06:09:08
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| and i just noticed another thing- on karen berg's (trulsdatters) death certificate, the informant is a mrs r b blomberg of 1505 sunnyside ave, chicago, il. when i read this first a few years ago, i figured it was a neighbour or friend. i wonder if that coincides with the residence listed for the 1920 census for rachel and olive? |
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tmafarrell
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 06:14:13
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| a funny scenario popped into my head. imagine the census taker in 1900 when upon asking a 67 and 63 year old what relation olive, a 9 year old, is to them. the 67 year old replies- my daughter. i wonder if she- or the census taker- kept a straight face? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 15:28:44
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The 1910 Census lists 2107 W North Avenue as the address
The 1930 Census lists 5707 North Campbell as the address
I had not found a 1920 US Census listing for Rachel |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 15:54:30
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If you think the data on the two previous Census forms are off look at the 1920 for Rachel. However the address on the Census form looks to me to be 1505 Summerdal Avenue not 1505 Sunnyside Avenue. Both addresses do exist in Chicago.
Name: Rachael Blomberg
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 26, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1860
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rachael Blomberg 60
Olive Blomberg 22
Sven Anderson 39
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Lislcat
Advanced member
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690 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 15:59:01
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I wonder if Rachel/Ragnild married again, because there are no death records listed for her in the Illinois death index under Blomberg or Berg. She may have moved. That's always a possibility.
I do think that Olive's death certificate will give you some answers, but remember that the information about her parents, probably would of been given by her son, Paul, at the time of her death.
As for the Census taker, I'm sure they hear all kinds of interesting things. :-) |
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tmafarrell
Medium member
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 16:30:41
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yes- i wonder, too. i also wonder if she even married at all! i am wondering if there was no long term relationship with olive's father at all. olive's birth coincides with jens and karen (rachel's parents) moving from minnesota to chicago. i will try to get a sense from my grandparents this afternoon.
also, the 1920 census- i looked on the map- amazing that 2 similar street names are so close, too! however, the 1505 house number clinches it, i think, unless there happened to be 2 sets of rachels and olives living at 2 different 1505s!
do you know, in the early 1900s, what was the main norwegian church in the chicago area? |
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tmafarrell
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 16:41:55
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| at the risk of being pushy... i have a census for karen berg from most year in the usa- 1920, 1900, 1895 (MN state), 1880, & 1875 (MN state). i have had no luck finding the one for 1910- i am wondering who she is living with at that time. also missing, but not particularly telling, are 1885 (MN) and 1890. am i missing something? did you come across them? |
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
690 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 16:52:45
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Here she is living with Caroline Meeker and family.
1910 United States Federal Census
about Carrie Barg
Name: Carrie Barg
[Carrie Berg]
Age in 1910: 76
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 27, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1872
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert B Meeker 51
Caroline Meeker 41
Arline Meeker 4
Carrie Barg 76
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the mystery of Olive Berg b 1891.05
